We are Israel

At a super-secret conservative confab last week a long-time friend and ally said that after 30 years of giving lectures and speeches to conservative groups there was only one event where he could show his true colors, and it wasn’t the one we were attending.

I asked him what colors he could not show at the conference we were attending. First was his opposition to the war in Iraq, which he believes was one of the worst foreign policy blunders in the history of our country, one that has ruined our reputation all over the world and given us nothing in return. Then he said, “Israel.”

Among political conservatives there is a reflexive support for Israel, one that I share. Israel is a democracy, the only one in the Middle East, standing like a beacon in the midst of chaos and danger. And Israel defends our national interests almost alone in whole world.

We also understand that if Israel ceased to exist, the stated goal of various Islamic actors, it would not be the end of our Islamic troubles. For Islamists, the continued existence of Israel is a rallying point but not much more than that.

For Evangelicals, though, support for Israel goes far beyond geopolitics. For them there are also theological reasons; chiefly, that the state of Israel is somehow tied to the End Times. What flows from that is the tacit belief that the State of Israel can do no wrong.

It is surprising for Evangelicals to learn that the State of Israel is one of the worst when it comes to such important matters to Christians as life and family issues. They are as bad as it gets, as bad as the UK, worse than France and Germany. The State of Israel routinely tries to block pro-life Christian NGOs from getting UN accreditation.

It is odd that the State of Israel is so hostile to pro-life Christian NGOs at the UN because it is just these groups that make up the strongest constituency the State of Israel has in the whole world. The Jews in American might not be enough to sustain US support for the State of Israel without the enormous and enthusiastic support of Evangelicals, a support grounded in the belief that the founding of the modern State of Israel constituted the beginning of the End Times.

Christian Zionists believe that the founding of the modern State of Israel was a necessary component to the return of Christ and that upon that piece of land will come the final battle and the establishment of a 1,000-year reign of Christ on Earth.

Not all Evangelicals believe this. According to a Pew poll of 2,000 evangelical leaders, only 48 percent agreed that the formation of the modern State of Israel was a fulfillment of Biblical prophesies related to End Times. Forty-two percent disagreed. Not surprisingly, the poll found regular pew sitters scored higher numbers than this, roughly 60 percent believing this was a manifestation of the Biblical prophesy.

Still, as Robert Nicholson, a young evangelical leader who runs something called the Philos Project, reports: “In citing eschatology as a motivation for Christian Zionism, one can prudently say only that most evangelicals believe that the ingathering of the Jewish people to their historic homeland is connected in some way to biblical prophesy.”

Nicholson has published a long essay at a Jewish website called Mosaic in which he describes in great detail the various threads of Christian Zionism. Eschatology is only a part of it. He says, “In brief, evangelicals love Israel because God loves Israel” and that his covenant with the Jewish people remains and is not breakable, no matter how unfaithful they may be.

He also describes a “deep cultural affinity with the Jewish people” that includes not just a shared love for the Hebrew Scriptures, but a common disdain for what he describes as the 1,000 years of “corruption and paganism” between the time of the apostles and the Reformation. He writes that they look for “inspiration not to Origen and Aquinas but to the heady days when all Christians were, in fact, Jews.”

Along that obvious anti-Catholic line, Nicholson says Christian Zionists are eager to show the Jews that they are not like “other Christians by whom the Jewish people were mercilessly persecuted in history.” He goes on to suggest that the material abundance of America may be directly related to how Americans have properly treated the Jews. He says it is commonly heard in evangelical churches that “America will be taken care of as long as we take care of the Jews.”

Nicholson talks about the Jewish role in Salvation History. He says,  “Over the centuries, Christians in general have debated whether Jews still have a role in history after their rejection of Jesus. Some have denied it, affirming instead that the Christian church constitutes the ‘true Israel,’ superseding and replacing the Jews in God’s favor.”

There is another term for this, “replacement theology,” the belief that once they rejected God, the Covenant He made with them was forever broken and the Christian church has replaced them in toto.

Indeed, at the conservative confab and what drew me to this topic, my friend said, “We are Israel. The Catholic Church is Israel.”

Does the Church teach “replacement theology?” Does the Church teach that God’s covenant with the Jews is broken?

There is a heresy that is called “dispensationalism,” the belief that God has two Covenants that are separate and distinct, one with the Jewish people of the Old Covenant and another one with the Church of the New Covenant. It is heresy for Catholics, but this notion has to be a problem, too, for those Evangelicals who hold it because it assumes the Jews are somehow saved without an explicit belief in Christ.

And how exactly does Israel fit? Like many debates between Catholics and Evangelicals, this one is about definitions, deep important theological definitions, but definitions nonetheless. What is Israel? Is it a piece of land in the Middle East. Is it that specific piece of land and the Jews living there who are specially covenanted by God? Or is Israel a people only, a people specially covenanted by God.

The teaching of the Catholic Church lies somewhere in between “millennialism,” which is the belief that modern day Jews are God’s covenanted ones, and “replacement theology,” which is the belief that only those who convert are God’s chosen people. I take much of this from a very good unsigned essay at Catholic Bridge, an essay informed by a Hebrew Catholic I met years ago named Marty Barrack.

The Church teaches that the covenant that God made with Israel still stands; complete and in total; that “the Church is not a replacement for Israel, but an unbroken continuation of Israel under the promised King and Messiah of Israel, and His Church is His Kingdom of Israel, expanded to include all the Gentile peoples of the Earth.”

According to Barrack and his colleagues, my friend is spot on.

Israel is not that piece of land in the Middle East. It is a people and we Catholics are that people. There is abundant Scriptural evidence for this, too. “There is a constant theme in the Bible that the elder son will be replaced by the younger son as the true heir of God’s promises.” Cain and Abel. Ishmael and Isaac. Esau and Jacob. David and Saul. Jesus gave the keys of the Kingdom to Peter. He gave the keys of the Old Covenant to the Israel of the New Covenant. “The New Israel are those who follow Jesus.”

The essayists point out that St. Paul makes clear that the Old Covenant may be obsolete but it is not revoked. They say, “The problem with modern day Judaism is that it is living in the Old Covenant as if it contains power in and of itself apart from the New Covenant.”

But doesn’t that sound like “replacement theology”? The question becomes, what about modern day Jews? The Church does not teach that the Jews are accursed because a tiny number of them condemned Jesus to death 2,000 years ago. Nor are those Jews who never converted necessarily accursed. There is obviously something special about the Jewish people. From the time of the foundation of the Church until the end of days, Jews are in and will be in the Catholic Church and St. Paul said this would always be so. So, Jews are indeed a part of the New Israel—Hebrew Christians—and this unique promise was made to no other people.

The Jews, even modern day Jews, are therefore inexorably connected to the return of Christ because St. Paul strongly hints that one day the Jews will convert together, all at once, and this will be a trigger for the Second Coming of Christ.

I have been a Catholic for many, many years and an avid student of my faith. But this is something altogether new for me to chew on.

The Catholic Church is Israel. There is no other. The Catholic Church is Zion. There is no other. The Catholic Church is Jerusalem. There is no other.

And what about that piece of land in the Middle East? What about the State of Israel? It is another country, no more, no less. There are abundant national security reasons to support the State of Israel. It is a beacon of democracy in a horrible part of the world. It is one of America’s most important allies. It is the physical and spiritual home to the Jewish people, children of the One True God and so our spiritual brothers, and our forefathers in faith.

But as to theological reasons to support the State of Israel, I find the stark answer persuasive: there are none. But I would not want to say that to a room full of Evangelicals.

Editor’s note: The photo above was taken in the Israeli president’s residence shortly before the papal visit to Jerusalem, May 22, 2014. (Photo credit: AP / Tsafrir Abayov)

Austin Ruse

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Austin Ruse is president of C-FAM (Center for Family & Human Rights), a New York and Washington DC-based research institute focusing on international legal and social policy. The views expressed here are not necessarily those of C-FAM.

  • OBJ15

    This article would have benefited from two key quotations, which constitute some of the clearest articulations of the Catholic view on Judaism. As this article focuses on the Catholic view of Judaism, I find the omissions regrettable.

    “True, the Jewish authorities and those who followed their lead pressed
    for the death of Christ; still, what happened in His passion cannot be
    charged against all the Jews, without distinction, then alive, nor
    against the Jews of today. The Jews should not be presented as rejected
    or accursed by God, as if this followed from the Holy Scriptures. All
    should see to it, then, that in catechetical work or in the preaching of
    the word of God they do not teach anything that does not conform to the
    truth of the Gospel and the spirit of Christ. Furthermore, in her
    rejection of every persecution against any man, the Church, mindful of
    the patrimony she shares with the Jews and moved not by political
    reasons but by the Gospel’s spiritual love, decries hatred,
    persecutions, displays of anti-Semitism, directed against Jews at any
    time and by anyone.” -Nostra Aetate (Second Vatican Council)

    “With Judaism, therefore, we have a relationship which we do not have
    with any other religion. You are our dearly beloved brothers, and in a
    certain way, it could be said that you are our elder brothers.” – John Paul II

    • Augustus

      The author did not intend to write an all-encompassing article on everything that the Church has ever said about Judaism. The focus was more narrow: Is there a theological justification for support of the State of Israel? The Catholic answer is “no.” The quotations you reference do not directly touch on this point since they deal more generally with Christian – Jewish relations.

      • OBJ15

        True, but if the author opts to make statements like this:

        “The Church does not teach that the Jews are accursed because a tiny number of them condemned Jesus to death 2,000 years ago.”

        A bit more theological nuance would be preferable, that’s all. Nuance like this:

        “what happened in His passion cannot be charged against all the Jews, without distinction, then alive, nor against the Jews of today.”

        It’s important to understand how one sounds to one’s readers.

        Example:

        ” There is obviously something special about the Jewish people.”

        versus

        “You are our dearly beloved brothers, and in a certain way, it could be said that you are our elder brothers.”

        Both are true. But if one’s goal is to persuade (aka lead others to the truth), rhetorical choices matter.

      • There is no theological justification, but given the reality of ISIS there is an archeological justification.

      • YouCannotHandleTheTruth

        Judaism is a denial of Christ, it is antichrist.

    • Austin Ruse

      i tried to do that, maybe should have hit that harder…i was going pretty long already though…

      • OBJ15

        Don’t get me wrong, I thought it was a good article (probably should have stated that upfront). But I see Nostra Aetate and JPII quoted so much on this sensitive topic, I was surprised not to find them here. Keep up the good work Austin.

    • Jdonnell

      NB: the operative word in JP II’s remark is “religion,” not the state of Israel.

  • Gail Finke

    I enjoyed this piece and its focus on political and theological issues that are rarely discussed. Israel is a strong ally and in many ways the only free country in the area. It is also, in many ways, oppressive. Everyone seems to want to see Israel as all good or all bad, but like most human things, it’s a mix of both. How to deal with that mix is a puzzle.

    I don’t remember whose essay I read that argued that the survival of the Jews is important for Christianity, not for any “end times” events but because they are living proof that the Covenant with God we claim to believe in is real and still exists. (We know Jews — we don’t know any Ammonites or Hittites or Balaam-worshipers). This seems to me a far better argument for Christians to respect Jews than the existence or non-existence of the modern state of Israel. If end times are all you’re worried about, then surely THIS Israel could easily be seen as a mistake and the “real” return of Israel as a nation could be seen as still to come.

    • BPS

      Walker Percy wrote that in one of his essays.

  • Nestorian

    Nowhere in the bible is the Church identified with Israel. And nowhere in the Bible is it affirmed that Israel – as a people and a nation with a distinct theological significance – has ceased to exist. Quite the contrary, Romans 9-11 makes it abundantly clear that Israel continues to exist, that it is currently to be distinguished from the Church on account of unbelief in their Messiah, but that it will eventually be nationally converted.

    The book of Zechariah makes clear WHEN this national conversion will occur: At Christ’s Second Coming in Glory.

    Until that point, the Chosen People, taken as a whole, are prophetically predicted to remain blinded as to who their Messiah is.

    So the classical Dispensationalists are actually correct about a lot of things. Broadly speaking, their position is not merely sound biblically, but it is in fact strongly rooted in Christian Tradition. Just read ante-Nicene fathers like Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Hippolytus, and Lactantius if you don’t believe me.

    And the 5th century Greek historian Gelasius Cyzicus bears witness to the fact that the dispensationalist/millenialist view of salvation history was the consensus among the Fathers of the Council of Nicea in 325.

    So the contemporary Dispensationalists have the literal bible, the testimony of the earliest Fathers, and the witness of the first Ecumenical Council of the Church on their side. That is quite a lot, actually.

    • Nestorian

      But there are three grave errors most contemporary Dispensationalists make:

      1) They fail to recognize that the initial regathering of Israel into a nation near the end of days is a regathering in unbelief, for which Israel is yet to be chastised. Yes, Zionism is a form of apostasy, and thus detestable in God’s eyes. All Orthodox Jews took this for granted until the Holocaust led most of them to compromise on this point.

      2) They fail to recognize the hermeneutical flimsiness of the Pre-Tribulational Rapture. Scripture properly understood, as well as the uniform early Church Tradition, make clear that the Rapture that Paul predicts in I Thessalonians is Post-tribulational, and occurs at the time of Christ’s Return itself.

      3) They fail to recognize “Mystery Babylon,” the world-system guided by Satan, and destined to be ruled by Antichrist during the coming Great Tribulation, even though it is right under their nose: “Mystery Babylon” of Revelation 17-18 is in fact to be identified with the United States and its “New World Order” system of world empire.

      The current war in The Ukraine represents an important stage in the ongoing consolidation of this globe-girdling but satanic “New World Order/Mystery Babylon” system by way of its strategic goal of eliminating Russia – and eventually also China – as the sole remaining independent actors on the Global stage, outside of the United States itself. The US will succeed in its aims; either Putin or his successor will eventually capitulate.

      For more information on how biblical prophecy comports with current events, please consult http://www.antipasministries.com

      • Seamrog

        Yawn.

      • s;vbkr0boc,klos;

        Logorrhea is like diarrhea only with words. It is endemic on the web.

        • Trolls that have no others of their kind, cannot find their own kind or cannot be abided by their own kind, and squat here are epidemic here.

        • me

          It is true, however, that the United States of America has been a God-fighting nation since its inception, or at the very latest since the adoption of the First Amendment, which enshrines relativism as the “highest” law of the land in opposition to He who is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and His Holy Church.

    • I don’t believe you. The apostolic fathers were, many of them, millennialist but not dispensationalist. I don’t know what you do with the Epistle of Barnabas, one of the most blatantly anti-dispensationalist works out there from the 2nd century.

      I’m not a patristics scholar, but I am read well enough in the early sources to know the difference between the much later arrival of dispensationalism and early premillennialism.

      Justin Martyr: “For the true spiritual Israel, and descendants of Judah, Jacob, Isaac, and Abraham (who in uncircumcision was approved of and blessed by God on account of his faith, and called the father of many nations), are we who have been led to God through this crucified Christ.” (Dial. w/Trypho)

      Justin Martyr (A.D. 100–165) is important in the history of supersessionism because he was the first Christian writer to explicitly identify the church as “Israel.”[1] Justin declared, “For the true spiritual Israel, and descendants of Judah, Jacob, Isaac, and Abraham . . . are we who have been led to God through this crucified Christ.”[2] He also said, “Since then God blesses this people [i.e., Christians], and calls them Israel, and declares them to be His inheritance, how is it that you [Jews] repent not of the deception you practise on yourselves, as if you alone were the Israel?”[3] Justin also announced that, “We, who have been quarried out from the bowels of Christ, are the true Israelite race.”[4]

      http://theologicalstudies.org/resource-library/supersessionism/331-justin-martyr-and-supersessionism

  • Michael Dowd

    Great article. The Jewish people are our brothers and sisters. As we know Christ came first to save the Jews for which He focused nearly all His attention. Nowhere in the New Testament are they renounced as a people. I think our country should extend an invitation to the State of Israel that they are all welcome here as everyone would benefit from their abundant talents and moral strength.

    • jacobhalo

      “No where in the New Testament are they renounced as a people.” Yes they are, by Jesus himself. Jesus said, ” If you don’t believe that I am He, you will die in your own sins.” The Jews rejected Jesus as the Messiah, as they do today.

      • Michael Dowd

        Individual Jews reject Jesus for sure. Jesus did not renounce them as a people. Nearly all the early Christians were Jews. Let us pray that more Jews will see and accept the light of Christ.

        • jacobhalo

          No, Jesus did not renounce them as a people, but he did renounce those Jews who didn’t believe that He was the Messiah. The pope should be doing the same if he is a messenger of Jesus. “Those who believe and are baptized will be saved. ” Those who don’t believe are already condemned.” words of Jesus. Will a pope utter those words to the world?

          • Michael Dowd

            Doubt it. Pope Francis isn’t much into condemning folks except those Catholics who keep God’s word. He uses various ugly expressions to describe them.

          • Jacqueleen

            IMHO, my God is merciful all the way up to the final judgment. Who can say that Jews would not ask Jesus for His mercy at that final hour? However, I strongly believe that there will be a complete conversion of the Jews and it will probably be the result of the great miracle spoken about in apparitions. We mortals will never be able to think the way God thinks or understand the mystery of God’s reasoning and methods. God’s intellect s far more superior so I refuse to go there.
            God is God and I am His lowly servant, period!

            • jacobhalo

              I hope that you are right. All non-Christians must embrace Jesus as the savior, unless of course they don’t know the teachings of Jesus.

              • Jacqueleen

                My God is a merciful God if we ask Him for mercy. My God is a God of Justice if we don’t ask Him for mercy! Plain and simple.

                However, I have a strong feeling that they will recognize Jesus or perhaps an Angel will speak to them on the way to the Judgement seat. Just saying…..just hoping! Ave Maria!

            • AnthonyMa

              If this your belief you are a heretic and should probably refrain from taking Holy Communion. Read your Catechism.

              • Jacqueleen

                Perhaps you should tell me what the Catechism says, i.e., if you have one! Jesus is the way….and who are you to say that He cannot forgive if asked with a contrite heart before judgement? You had better hope I am right otherwise many souls will go to the down elevator.

      • Catholic pilgrim

        well by that standard, Christ Jesus would have also denounced Pre-Christian pagan Celtics & Germans & other groups who rejected Him. Why single out the Jews? Why not mention YOUR barbaric ancestors who might have also rejected Him along with some Jews? Jews as a Whole did not reject Him. For Pete’s steak, Mother Mary, Sts. Peter & Paul, & countless early Christians were Jewish. Some Jews rejected the Christ/Messiah, some Jews accepted Him. Everything in context.

        • AnthonyMa

          The overwhelming majority rejected Him and even called for the release of a murderer over Him. Nowadays those who remain members of that faith continue not to believe in Him and in that way continue to reject Him. That’s why they are condemned.

      • Catholic pilgrim

        Remember how HOSTILE many Pre-Christian pagan Europeans were to Christians (Christ’s Body, thus, Christ Himself). Do you remember Vikings destroying Christian monasteries? Pagan European Barbarians (especially of the German kind) attacking Christians. And then came their heresies (after finally becoming Christians). Your European ancestors were probably as bad if not worse in rejecting Christ as some ancient Jews were.

        • jacobhalo

          Catholics rejecting Christ is worse than any Jew rejecting Christ.

    • Romulus

      The Jews are beloved by God. They are not cursed. But neither are they our brothers and sisters, because they are not His children. One becomes a child of God through baptism.

      Scripture is replete with warnings that the Jews denying Christ would be cut off. God loves them in a special way nevertheless, and preserves them as a sign and mystery, perhaps of the vanity and suffering that result from being outside the Household, notwithstanding God’s great desire that they come in.

      Which reminds me: the parable of the Prodigal Son also is another instance of the older brother/younger brother rivalry and divergence, another parable pointing to the tragic blindness and hard-heartedness of those appealing not to mercy but to works of law as their claim for admission to the Father’s house.

  • s;vbkr0boc,klos;

    Any Americans living in our 24/7 Porn Palace Freak Show run by the Muslim Brotherhood president who hates us can easily tut-tut the TINY country of Israel and the TINY population of surviving Jews. As a Jewish convert to Catholicism I get my share of cheap antisemitism from my traditional milieu and anti-Catholic sentiment from my family. The survival of the Jews and the return to Israel are truly signifying truths as is the lightning that struck St. Peters on the day of Benedict’s abdication. Its a gut thing – you know or you don’t.

    • BlueMit11

      “It’s a gut thing.”

      Meaning it’s not a rational thing?

      • s;vbkr0boc,klos;

        supra-rational

    • Catholic pilgrim

      Your conversion to Christ’s Church must have taken a lot of personal courage: the Catholic Church is better for you, & you are better because of Her. Know that the Church wholeheartedly teaches against Anti-Semitism & that many Catholics (including me, who have close to zero Jewish ancestry) also cannot stand when a Christian (Protestant or Catholic) says Anti-Jewish crap. It’s a miracle Jews are still around after Hitler’s so-called “Final Solution” & many other genocidal attempts to wipe Jews off. Honestly, the continuing existence of Jews is yet another of countless proofs of God. Neither Egyptians nor Seleucid Greeks nor Nazis nor Russians could destroy them.

      • s;vbkr0boc,klos;

        Thank you! As Dietrich Von Hildebrand said, “Antisemitism is like slapping the mother of Jesus in the face.”. Father Feeny whose toxic residue still lingers in New England, was excommunicated, damned to HELL for his defiance of the church and persistence in raging hatred for Jews as Jews.

        • jacobhalo

          Father Feeney’s excommunication was lifted in the early 70’s.

          • s;vbkr0boc,klos;

            Figures.

      • Laurence Charles Ringo

        The Roman Catholic Church couldn’t destroy the Jews either,although it wasn’t for lack of trying.I am about to”bust a gut”,as they say,at all this tip-toeing around the centuries of anti-Semitism perpretrated by the Roman Catholic Church!! Are you people SERIOUS???

  • HartPonder

    “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” Galatians 3:28

    We are…Catholic (Universal).

  • An Orthodox Christian

    The modern nation-state of Israel centered in Tel Aviv and the Biblical Israel are not one and the same.
    I would also encourage people to look at the life of Christians in Israel and especially Palestinian Christians. It isn’t a rosy picture, and if you ask them, their opinions on Israel are quite mixed….not all that positive in many corners.

    • Catholic pilgrim

      I agree. State of Israel has an abysmal record of religious freedom for Christians (almost as bad as in Muslim lands, although not as bad & without the Muslim terrorists). Interestingly, the Maronite Catholics in Lebanon usually support their Israeli neighbors. It doesn’t matter- Lebanon used to be a Maronite Catholic majority country, but now sadly Muslims have overrun it & Lebanon has recently become a Muslim majority country (infested with anti-Israeli Hezbollah Muslim terrorists). Pray for the Maronite Catholics of Lebanon (a few decades ago it was a proudly Catholic country).

    • AnneM040359

      But considering the horrors of the past year with Christians being driven out, taking into slavery, or killed in what is Iraq and Syria, whatever problems the Christians face in Israel pale by comparision.

    • Paul Tran

      The modern State of Israel is a modern construct however it still has its Biblical roots. It was recognized since the end of the Ottoman empire that the natural ancestral home for the Jews is in the region which was called Palestine.
      If one were to cite the plight of the Christians in Israel today in order to criticize Israel, one would also need to see other Arab nations are doing to their Christian communities.
      Israel is still the most democratic country in that region.

  • What has happened in Nineveh is proof of why we need to protect Jerusalem and Rome from Islamic rule. Has nothing to do with supporting or not supporting Judaism, and everything to do with valuing our history against a group of people willing to wipe out history to support the Caliphate.

  • CadaveraVeroInnumero

    Ditto. Excellent pierce. A keeper. Though I do view on point from a different perspective – maybe because these days – since the putting aside of Pope Benedict – I am having a difficult time being Catholic.

    Since entering the Church many years ago, from Orthodoxy, I have bumped into a surprisingly amount of Jew-hatred – of the respectable sort, of which the secular culture is filling its cup with. Have dealt with it in various ways. This article is helpful.

    So sad, Mr Ruse, you cannot garner the support of Israeli representatives at the UN regarding pro-life concerns. I know of it.

    In all of this let us keep a sharp eye on the enemy firing its breath own all our necks – Islam. Take a look at this:

    “This Generation Will Be the One That Conquers Rome” http://gatesofvienna.net/2015/02/this-generation-will-be-the-one-that-conquers-rome/

    • You should be reminded the Church is a hospital, and some of the diseases that afflict its patients produce a spectacular array of lesions. Some emit purulent discharges, some serous discharges. There are viral and bacterial infections, that produce the stench of necropsy; and the smell of putrecine, cadaverine and scatol

      • CadaveraVeroInnumero

        Was this posted on the wrong comment? I know nothing of a “Catherine”, let alone of her diarrhea!

        • Perhaps. When you mentioned Jew hatred, I thought you had read the post(s) above. My bad.

  • Guest

    All you pro Israel people are lost. Until WW2, the Church’s position regarding the Jews was always the same. Read the Talmud, or just look at how they vote, and you’ll understand why. Anyone who believes that Christ is boiling in hell in excrement and that Mary is a whore is no friend of the Church. At least in Islam Jesus is considered a major prophet. Then, ask yourself why they control the Federal Reserve, the IMF etc. the media, Hollywood, etc, and why they are over-represented on the supreme court, in positions of power in the government, in higher academia etc etc etc. Pretty impressive for a group that only makes up 2% of the population. Check out Michael Scheuer who worked for the CIA for 20 years and headed the Osam Bin Laden task force and see what he says about being allies with Israel. Do your research, people, or we will continue down the same path we are on. Do you really believe that a bunch of hardcore atheists and Talmudists have our best interests at heart? Do you really believe that there will be some miraculous, large-scale conversion to Christ on their part? Really?

    • Seamrog

      Get thee behind me.

    • s;vbkr0boc,klos;

      Islam is the worst. It is a HERESY of Christianity and so of course a parody of ‘Jesus’ is part of it. You are ‘soft’ on Islam, take away all the blather and you are the Neo-Vichy Nazi allies of the New IslamoReich.

    • Jacqueleen

      You are talking about the Ashkenazi Jews who make up the so-called Jews in Europe and the USA. These are not the same Jews as are in Israel. Do your home work and find out how the Jews migrated to Khazar (An ancient country and in more recent times, aka Georgia, part of the Soviet Union) and they intermarried with the pagans and then spread over Europe. The very filthy rich bankers (You know who) are Ashkenazis. The ruling class as we know them are ASHKENAZIs and not ISRAELITEs. Your beef is correct but misappropriated. The rich bankers are the secret owners of the Federal Reserve and are the New World Order greedy thugs who want to rule the world. They will use the greedy Muslims who also want to dominate the world to do the dirty work and to install Sharia Law internationally so that the slaves behave or get chopped up! In my opinion, the Ashkenazi Jews are the MAGOG and their father is GOG, Satan. Pray for the conversion of the Ashkenazi Jews, too. If they don’t convert, they will be caught up in the battle between God and Satan and we know who wins and what happens to Gog and Magog, don’t we?

      • guest

        I’m well aware that the AshkeNAZIS come from the Kahzars, as well as the reference to the synagogue of satan that St. John mentions, Jacqueleen. But if you’re asking me to pick between Tamudists and Atheists, well then I choose neither. Thanks for the reply, though, at least someone on here has there head screwed on right…..blessings

        • Jacqueleen

          Ashkenazi Jews (not Jews at all) are atheists. I agree that hard core atheists do not have our best interests at heart. I am not so sure that the Ashkenazis have totally taken over the country of Israel. However, I am sure that they want to take over the entire world. For quite some time, I have been saying that we, followers of Christ, Christians if you will, are God’s Israel. The word Israel is much like the word church (a building or the body of Christ) so it goes with Israel (a place and the body of Christ). God speaks in a heavenly language that is difficult at times to understand. Far be it from me to question God..I am His humble servant. God’s Blessings to you, too.

          • guest

            Jacqueleen, I wouldn’t pin everything on the Ashkenazi. The Sephards are either Talmudist or atheist, as well, and can be found in many positions of power, too.

        • entonces_99

          No, they don’t come from the Khazars. Recent DNA testing has shown pretty conclusively that Ashkenazic Jews are of Middle Eastern origin, and thus put this legend to rest.

      • s;vbkr0boc,klos;

        I am an ‘Ashkenazi Jew’ convert to traditional Catholicism. How can I get in on this? Me, my family and everyone I know or just working shlubs like everyone else. Is there a secret password or something? You seem to know everything about this. Since there are just a handful of us Ashkenzazi Jews in the world I should at least get a cut! Any help appreciated. Oh, incidentally, the Khazar thing is pure BS according to scientific genetics. Jews named Cohen and similar names have startlingly pure lineage going back to temple priesthood Kohenim.

        • Jacqueleen

          Thank you for seeing the light and are now a completed Jew. God bless you.
          Here are some facts that support my theory on the ruling class of NWO thugs as I call them….who want to rule the world and don’t care who lives or dies or gets maimed.

          I suggest that you google, “Ashkenazi Jew” and click on Wikipedia because this site will not allow the link or the article
          portion that I am trying to submit to you. When at Wikipedia, read the Notable Ashkenazim and pay particular attention to the mention of their exceptionalism in Finance (The filthy rich NWO Bankers and the Federal Reserve Owners?) Then pay attention to the percentages of Ashkenazi Jews in the world …not so few! 23% of the Wealthiest in America! Thank you.

          • quisutDeusmpc

            Wikipedia (the user submitted article site) is an unimpeachable source of credible information?!? Ummmm…..o…..k…….

    • “Read the Talmud, or just look at how they vote, and you’ll understand why. ”

      Well what’s OUR excuse for our voting patterns?

    • burnman

      Overrepreresented in the supreme court? Roberts, Scalio, Alito, Thomas and Sotameyer are all Cathloic. As far as I know, only GInsberg is (nominally) Jewish.
      Make me wonder where else you are wrong.

  • Catherine

    In contrast to the empathy it shows for itself, the Jewish community as a whole, to the extent it submits to its representative elites, tends to behave towards the mass of Gentiles in a psychopathic rather than empathic manner. This is why a goy observer, Werner Sombart, despite his reputation as a Semitophile, highlights features of Jewish collective psychology that are similar to psychopathic tendencies including a temperament that is “coldly utilitarian” and “calculating,” alongside a propensity to mimicry, combined with a mechanical conception of human relations. (9) The founder of sociology Emile Durkheim (1858-1917), very critical of his Jewish community, noticed among Jewish intellectuals a pragmatic and self-interested notion of truth, which can be compared with that of the psychopath: “The Jew . . . seeks to learn not in order to replace his collective prejudices by reflective thought, but merely to be better armed for the struggle. . . . [H]e superimposes this intellectual life upon his habitual routine with no effect of the former upon the latter”. (10) Many Jewish historians, for example, seem to value History less as a pursuit of truth than as a means of power.

    The hypothesis of a form of “collective psychopathy” with narcissistic tendencies makes it possible to deconstruct the universalism in which Judaism is draped. At the first level, Jewish universalism is a fable intended to obfuscate reality and confuse the goy. But it is not only this, as it also appears in the literature internal to the Jewish community, where it amounts to an expression of limitless ethnic narcissism. The Jewish people are “the seed that is germinating the humanity of the future” (Jacob Kaplan, Chief Rabbi of France); “the living ladder that meets the sky” (Emmanuel Levinas); “Israel equals humanity” (Levinas) (11); “The Jew is closer to humanity than any other,” so that “the enemy of the Jews is the enemy of humanity” and therefore killing Jews is “murdering all mankind” (Elie Wiesel) (12). Worse, “Hitting a Jew is hitting God Himself,” according to Cardinal Aron Jean-Marie Lustiger (13), taken almost verbatim from the Talmud (Sanhedrin 58b: “Hitting a Jew is like slapping the face of God himself “). This is why the strange notion of “crimes against humanity” was created specifically in 1945 at the Nuremburg Trials to describe the massacre of Jews, while the term “genocide” was coined for the same purpose by Raphael Lemkin in 1944. These terms having since been generalized to other victims of history, the copyrighted term Holocaust was coined — hard to beat.

    This equation between Jewishness and humanity, which is the height of ethnocentrism, is the real meaning of Judaism’s claim to embody humanism. Though Israelis are “the most separatist people in the world” according to Nahum Goldman (former president of the World Jewish Organization and founder of the World Jewish Congress), he adds: “The Israelis have the great weakness of thinking that the whole world revolves around them .” (14) So there is not necessarily a contradiction in their minds between universalist discourse and the practice of tribalism. If the Jew is the essence of humanity, what is good for the Jews is good for humanity, on principle. And although fundamentally racist, Jewishness cannot see itself as such: “Judaic ethics […] by definition deny racism. A Jew cannot be racist.” (Elie Wiesel) (15). This does not prevent the same Elie Wiesel from stating that “Jewish history describes an ongoing conflict between us and the others. Since Abraham, we are on one side and the whole world is on the other.” (16)

    It has often been said that Jews have an ethnocentric conception of universal history, which has no meaning in their eyes except in relation to the Jewish people. Josef Kastein acknowledges this in his book History and Destiny of the Jews (1936): “Because it accepted the idea of the chosen people and salvation, the Jewish world was Judeocentric, and Jews could interpret everything that happened according to a single point of view, with themselves as the center.” (17) Joshua Jehouda illustrates this perfectly in Antisemitism, Mirror of the World: “He who plumbs the depths of universal history, to gain an overall vision, finds that from ancient times until today two opposing currents are fighting over history, penetrating and shaping it constantly: the messianic current and the anti-Semitic current […] Because messianism and anti-Semitism are the two opposite poles of the journey of humanity.” (18)

    In his megalomania, the psychopath is convinced that when he uses others, it is for their own good. Similarly, according to rabbinical logic, it is to enlighten humanity that the Jewish community must preserve itself, prosper, and eventually dominate humanity: “Judaism considers only the salvation of the house of Israel, which alone will permit the salvation of the seventy nations of the universe” (Rabi, Anatomy of French Judaism, 1962) (19). This is where the double ethno-religious nature of Judaism helps streamline the paradox that the Jews should remain a separate people in order to spread their universal religion. Such Jewish intellectuals as Felix Adler (1851-1933) have defended the paradoxical idea that the Jewish people must remain ethnically united to accomplish their mission: To spread the universalism that will dissolve ethnicity from the rest of humanity. Only when the mission is completed will the Jewish people disappear. In this way has the most ethnically oriented community manages to impersonate the champions of universalism. (20) Thus when Martin Buber called for a state for the Jews, it was so they could serve humanity. For it is only by fulfilling his messianic dream of a national home, he said, that the Jewish religion can lead humanity towards the messianic age. (21) This argument, developed by Reform Judaism, is intended primarily for goyim but also for “soft” Jews, in order to convince them that their commitment in favor of the group is a service to humanity.

    The psychopath is unable to see the other person’s point of view, and criticism strikes him as irrational aggression. This is the reaction of the Jewish elites to criticism: To them it can be nothing other than the expression of visceral anti-Semitism, an atavistic goyish disease. “Judeophobia is a psychosis,” wrote Leo Pinsker, a founding father of Zionism, “a hereditary demonic madness,” “a congenital perversion of human mentality,” “passed down for two thousand years,” “incurable.” (22)

    The psychopath does not know the feeling of guilt; he constantly plays innocent. Those who get in his way, or even cast a shadow over his path, are solely responsible for their own destruction. Their accusations are baseless fabrications, their anger an irrational hatred. “One thing that Judaism has which other spiritualities lack is innocence,” explains André Neher, one of the leaders of “the Jewish school of thought of Paris” (with Emmanuel Levinas and Leon Ashkenazi). “We are innocent, and we feel even more deeply that we are innocent when we are accused. […] It is this innocence that we must be aware of at present, and that we must never deny, never, in any circumstance.” (23) And it works: “You will understand nothing of anti-Semitism,” wrote Jean-Paul Sartre, “if you fail to remember that the Jew, that object of so much hatred, is perfectly innocent, nay harmless.” (Anti-Semite and Jew, 1946). The Jewish question is thus reduced to the question of anti-Semitism, which, thanks to the mythology of the Holocaust, is elevated to the status of metaphysical Evil. “The hatred of the Jews is the enigma of enigmas …” (André Glucksmann, Hate Speech, 2004) (24). It is a necessary enigma, without which the Jewish people could dissolve. Towards the end of his life, the Jewish writer Ilya Ehrenburg repeated that he would consider himself a Jew “as long as there was a single anti-Semite left on earth.” (25) Persecution is the central theme of the Passover holiday, Hanukkah, Purim and Yom Kippur, and Jewish history as taught to Jewish children, according to Michael Walzer, is one long tale of exile and persecution – Holocaust history read backwards. (26) According to historian Zygmunt Bauman, Israel uses the Holocaust “as the certificate of its political legitimacy, as a safe-conduct pass for its past and future policies, and, above all, as advance payment for the injustices it might itself commit.” (27)

    The State of Israel is now in the international scene what the psychopath is in a human community. With regard to the Palestinians, “Israeli Jews’ consciousness is characterized by a sense of victimization, a siege mentality, blind patriotism, belligerence, self-righteousness, dehumanization of the Palestinians, and insensitivity to their suffering,” in the words of journalist Akiva Eldar (“Operation Cast Lead against Gaza in 2008-2009″). (28) As noted by the Deputy Director of Military Intelligence Yehoshafat Harkabi: “Dazzled by its self-righteousness, Israel cannot see the case of the other side. Self-righteousness encourages nations no less than individuals to absolve themselves of every failing and shake off the guilt of every mishap. When everyone is guilty except them, the very possibility of self-criticism and self-improvement vanishes…” (29) The Israeli journalist Gideon Levy wrote in Haaretz in 2010 that “Only psychiatrists can explain Israel’s behavior.” However, the diagnosis he offers, including “paranoia, schizophrenia and megalomania,” (30) is in my opinion insufficient. It must take into account Israel’s extraordinary manipulative capacity on the world stage via corruption and propaganda, that is to say, the Bank and the Press.

    Israel’s relationship to the United States is that of a typical psychopath to an influential and impressionable man he has decided to use to accomplish his misdeeds. The golden rule of manipulation formulated by Colonel Mandell House (who was the intermediary between the Zionist network and President Woodrow Wilson) applies generally to Israel’s manipulation of the United States: “With the President […] it was invariably my intention to always to make him believe that ideas he derived from me were his own.” (31) Indeed, Israel has managed to lead America into a Middle East policy that only serves Israeli interests, by pretending to the American people that it serves their interests. The psychopath tries to interfere in all the human relationships of his prey, so as to prevent any alliance that could allow him to be unmasked. Isolate and divide-and-rule are the essence of this strategy. This is exactly what Israel and its neoconservative moles have done, by trying to split the United States from its historic allies in the Middle East, with the aim of one day remaining the only ally of the United States in the area; the demonization of all heads of state in the Arab world is part of this strategy.

    The power of the Zionist manipulation of the United States, based on quasi-total control of the mainstream media alongside large-scale psychological operations such as September 11th, is truly bewildering. But it becomes understandable in light of the cognitive mechanisms of psychopathy. It even becomes predictable to some extent, if we keep in mind that the psychopath has no ability to question, no limits to his appetite for power, and no remorse about leading humanity into ruin to save his skin. Nothing better illustrates the psychopathic nature of Zionism than the apocalyptic nuclear blackmail Israel perpetually exercises over the West under the name “the Samson Option.” In 1974 Golda Meir summed it up as “Israel’s willingness in a doomsday situation to take the region down with it” (32) in the event of looming defeat.

    And remember: there is no limit to the psychopath’s thirst for power, because he does not seeks power for the comfort it can bring him, but instead loves power for the sake of power.

    By drawing a parallel between psychopathy as a personality disorder and the attitude of Israel, I do not mean, of course, the Jews in general. They are the first to be manipulated by their elites, and they are part of this collective psychopathy only to the extent of their submission to those elites. Jewishness, do not forget, is whatever idea the Jews make of it; and the idea the Jews make of it is, almost entirely, the one imposed on them by their elites.

    What is at issue is the prevailing ideology of Israel, and (more discreetly) of the organized Jewish community. Dominant discourse is always shaped by the elite. Sometimes a strong current of popular thought emerges to challenge the dominant way of thinking, but nothing of this kind is yet observable in the Jewish community; it is overwhelmingly docile to its elite, which currently dominates the media and the entertainment industry and therefore enjoys considerable mind-control powers. Their ruse is to maintain in the Jews an absolute conviction of the immaculate innocence of their people, and simultaneously to inculcate a paranoid fear of anti-Semitism, this “disease transmitted for two thousand years, incurable.” (Leon Pinsker) (33)

    In The Corporation: the Pathological Pursuit of Profit and Power(Free Press, 2005), Joel Bakan noted that those “legal persons” that are large companies behave like psychopaths, insensitive to the suffering of those they crush in their pursuit of profit: “Corporate behavior is very similar to that of a psychopath.” That company culture, which involves every employee to one degree or another, is driven by its ruling elite. The Enron case has shown the world the tremendous damage that can be done by a company run by people of high intelligence and perverse ideology. (34) My analysis here of the Jewish community is based on exactly the same reasoning. Like it or not, the character of a nation is as much determined by its legitimate leaders than the reverse. Until proven otherwise Benjamin Netanyahu is as much Israel as Vladimir Putin is Russia.

    And since Israel has New York as its second capital, we must also count among its elites the neoconservatives (“neo” here means “crypto” and “conservative” means “Likudnik”), whose leaders define themselves as disciples of Leo Strauss, therefore implicitly as super-Machiavellian. (In his Thoughts on Machiavelli, in fact, Strauss claims he is the only one who understands what Machiavelli never dared to write). This hyper-Machiavellianism of the neoconservatives, to which they admit when speaking amongst themselves, must be taken very seriously. In an article in the Jewish World Review of June 7, 1999, the neoconservative Michael Ledeen defends the thesis that Machiavelli was a “secret Jew” since “If you listen to his political philosophy you will hear Jewish music.” (35) According to Strauss, Machiavelli is the super-patriot who understands that only the nation has an eternal soul, and that, therefore, the best leader is one who has no fear of losing his soul, since he has none. In practice, the art of the Machiavellian prince is to terrorize while diverting popular resentment toward his enemies. I believe that the admission of Ledeen sheds light on the psychopathic nature of Israel. From the Judeo-Machiavellian (i.e. neoconservative) point of view, the current leaders of Israel from Tel Aviv to New York – from Benjamin Netanyahu to Larry Silverstein – are super-patriots.

    This is a severe criticism of “Jewishness” as a system of thought, a representation of the world and the self. We are critiquing an idea by exposing its dangerous irrationality, nothing more. Even if it is as old as the world, an idea still deserves critique. Since the first victims of a toxic idea are the men and women it inhabits, they are likewise the first we would help liberate. This article is basically a fraternal message to all Jews: Jews of all countries, disunite! Break away from your elites and their pathological ideology! Rejoin humanity!

    • Seamrog

      How many websites to you copy and past this garbage on?

    • s;vbkr0boc,klos;

      Excuse me, but the Jews you build this pile of hate on are the precise non-Jewish Jews who seek to destroy Israel.and American or Western ‘exceptionalism’ with venomous spite.

    • Brother George

      Catherine, this a a very astute and absolutely cogent analysis of jewish supremacy and the remarkably ethnocentric notion or should I say hallucination of those self identified as the “Chosen Ones” which even Albert Einstein could not countenance. And of course, when this malignant egocentricity becomes so pervasive that it infects the groups entire body politic, or racial identity, then over time it becomes an inherited pyschopathic trait, and those that do not share that peculiar idiosyncratic trait become suspect, then eventually ostracized from the group, in a purifying ritual of self glorification. Then of course over time this self reverential psychopathy morphs into egomania then into full blown megalomania. And that’s where we are today, with an extremely small but extremely virolent minority of megalomaniacal paranoids who have 400 nuclear bombs, and who have threatened to unleash them on the world if they feel threatened, and who have the world’s only superpower in their back pocket, as they make their last ditch effort to bring the world under their control in their sick dream of a NWO. The world is finally waking up to their nightmare scenario and wants nothing to do with it. But it might be too late to do anything about it, because I have a sneaking suspicion that Israel will ignite the fuse that leads directly to WWIII.

    • Crisiseditor

      We do not accept the cutting and pasting of large amounts of text from other websites. If you have something to say, say it in your own words or use links to your sources so that people can judge for themselves.

  • T

    Good artical, except for calling the modern state of Israel a beacon of democracy. Israel is an apartheid state in the vain of South Africa. They are a colonial power that treats the Palestinians like the US treats the Native Americans.

    • s;vbkr0boc,klos;

      Maybe you can write a better ‘artical’.

    • Catholic pilgrim

      Well because Palestinians harbor terrorist groups that use humans as shields (like Hamas or Hezbollah militants hiding their weapons & militias in Palestinian/Gazan school houses & hospitals). The Palestinian need to vote out & get rid off corrupt government & militants. Now State of Israel is guilty of allowing several Jews to colonize in areas that are well beyond the Israeli border (deep in the Palestinian West Bank). That’s wrong too & they don’t stop it.
      Bottom line: Muslims have a BUNCH of large Muslim countries to live in (some even oil-rich like Saudi Arabia). Muslims can live in African Muslim lands, Iran, Yemen, even as close to China as in Muslim Indonesia & Muslim Bangladesh & Pakistan. Jews have only ONE nation (Israeli State). Jews recently suffered the Holocaust (just like Armenian Christians suffered Genocide)- Muslims did not. Islam has produced many terrorist groups in modern times- Jews have not. I love Muslims but they can stay in their MANY Muslim countries, no need to have them come to Christian Europe & Americas nor the (tiny) Jewish Israeli State (which is all Jews have).

      • BPS

        True Catholic pilgrim! I used to have a Palestinian roommate (a muslim who grew-up and college educated in the U.S., but drank liquor and loved bacon, which he said didn’t count as pork). I asked him once why, since Palestinians never had their own country, didn’t they just take what was offered in 1948.

      • Thomas J. Hennigan

        Check out the Pew Forum survey on what muslims think of Sharia and what a great perentage of them want it implemented even in non muslim countries. As for Palastine, which is not a real country 89% of them want it. Why do they not stay in their countries? Because none of them are capable of running a properly functioning country. They want to transfer their hellholes to other places like America and France and set up enclaves there. It is a recipe for eventual civil war and massaces.

    • John Flaherty

      I’m not aware of any formal colonies that the nation-state of Israel has established.
      As to the indian peoples living in the US, I might comment that “Native Americans” is a term usually used to imply that nobody else is native to this land and that these peoples are innocent victims of aggression.
      I think an honest appraisal of history would show this to be overly optimistic at best.

      • Innocent or not, indians were victim of genocide by the American nation.

        • John Flaherty

          By what standard?

          • No good Catholic could be this cynical when there was such a thing as the Trail of Tears.

            • John Flaherty

              Every good Catholic can and should confront the prejudice and hypocrisy involved with focusing only on those events that indian peoples suffered at the hands of white people.
              I’m not aware of any tribe that ever followed Catholic faith, nor any willingness on the part of tribal advocates to admit that tribal peoples made war on white people and on each other.

              Most efforts to emphasize the pllght of indian peoples do so from a basis of very subtle, but no less real, racism.

              • Your lack of awareness just shows your ignorance and is totally irrelevant. You are not the measure of all things.

                The Lakotas are mostly Catholic, after chief Sitting Bull embraced salvation.
                But even no Indian had ever converted, there is absolutely no justification to treat them inhumanely. And any Catholic contemporizing with such crimes, even if in the past, is an accomplice of the Culture of Death.

                http://www.thecross-photo.com/images/00100497.jpg

                • John Flaherty

                  Sitting Bull may have become Catholic for all I know. I do now that Black Elk did. Either of the two would not cause either of their tribal groups to also become Catholic. Given that I’ve heard references here and there to Sioux or other tribal influences though, I’ll assume that most indian persons remain attached to their tribal religions. If they have become Catholic, great. Such a concern appears to me to be wholly irrelevant to the subject at hand.

                  Regarding the treatment of indian groups today, I’m hard pressed to know how to address such charges. If white folks were not always humane to indian persons, neither were indian persons always humane to whites.
                  I’ve heard a view about how we, the US, ought to give the land back. I’m not convinced that greivances from over 100 years ago really warrant taking land from ranchers, farmers, or others. I don’t believe we serve Truth, Justice, or Dignity by stealing from Paul to pay for Paul’s great-great-grandfather’s alleged misdeeds.

                  • Justifying the atrocities against others because they commit similarly atrocious acts is unchristian, period.

                    • John Flaherty

                      Which raises the interesting question about why you’re summarily dismissing the acts of malice that indians committed.

                    • You make no sense. I’ll leave you alone in your kindergarten recess.

                    • entonces_99

                      Nobody is “dismissing the acts of malice that indians committed.” We are dismissing the attitude that says that if our enemies did bad things, that excuses bad things we did–as if what the Viet Cong did in Hue excuses what the Americans did at Mylai.

      • entonces_99

        Every settlement in the occupied territories of the West Bank is a “colony” in the original sense of that term.

    • Chris Cloutier

      There are Palestinians in the Israeli Knesset.

  • Zmirak

    A courageous piece. Most of the anti-Semitism I see in Catholic circles is motivated not by old theology but fresh envy. Why are THOSE people so much more influential than we are. WE were supposed to inherit America from the WASPs, but they seem to have gotten it instead, the lousy Sheenies…. Never mind that when the Catholic Moment came, we squandered it on the Kennedys, on Land o Lakes, and Mario Cuomo.

    I support Israel as an obviously necessary home for a persecuted people. I thank God they have plenty of nukes. If God forbid Israel is ever overrun, AFTER the mass genocide of Jews and residual Christians, AFTER the ISIS-style destruction of the Holy Places, the Muslims’ next target will be Rome. Unless papal-sponsored immigration policies have already GIVEN them Rome, which could save some bloodshed, I suppose.

    My question for Evangelicals: If today’s Israel inherits the promises to the Jewish people, doesn’t it inherit the obligations (keeping the Law, etc.)? If so, wouldn’t it suffer punishment for flouting it? What would Jeremiah make of Tel Aviv’s gay rights parade and abortion clinics?

    God bless the country of Israel as a home for a persecuted, brilliant, Western people who have given us more than we could ever repay. God save Israel from the culture of death.

    • BPS

      I agree John and Austin. I’m a lector at my church, and usually read the Old Testament reading. God’s promise to Abraham begins is basically materialistic (land, decendents, prosperity), but then: “I will bless those who bless you, and curse those who curse you. All the nations of the earth will find blessing in you”. What you see in history is human flourishing (material blessings) where Jews are welcomed. A couple of examples:Russia once welcomed the Jews, but after the pogroms at the beginning of the 1900s, at the height of it’s prosperity, it fell to communism. England expelled the Jews during the Middle ages, struggled along, and become an world powerhouse when they were welcomed back in the 1600s. St. Paul says in Romans 11 that God still keeps his promises to the Israelites. He says it’s a mystery, and that seems right to me. That God never breaks his promises is a given. I think Walker Percy is right when he says they (the Jews) are a sign of God working thru history.
      I can see it–in an area when vicious, polytheistic religions demanded temple prostitution and child sacrifice, one religion prepares a people, by teaching of a God as an inscrutable, all good master, prepares this people and the world for the coming of a God which will make people adopted children of God and no longer servants. These people kill this God, saying “His blood be on us, and on our children”. But, as C.S. Lewis says, they say better than they know. In the last book of the New Testament, it becomes clear that the only way you get eternal joy with this God is by being washed in his blood.
      Israel, since becoming less socialist in the 1990s, has become an economic power house in the area, especially in technology–materially strong. But spiritually, as Austin shows, leaving a lot to be desired. Are there laws against proselytizing there? Has Catholicism been doing everything we can to evangelize?

      • Nostromo

        A better example of human flourishing that protected Jews was the Polish-Lithuanian common wealth. It flourished as a Europena power for centuries harbouring Jews from persecution in other parts of Europe with a large wave coming from Spain, eventually being declared Paradisus Iudaeorum. This is why it became the centre of world jewery. Once this powerhouse was partitioned by three opposing empires the persecutions began, inluding pogroms from Russia in the Russian partition.

      • Catholic pilgrim

        Proselytizing (whether by Catholic Christians, Messianic Christians, Protestants, Jehovah’s “witnesses”, Mormons, or Muslims) is pretty much illegal in the modern State of Israel. It has a bad record of religious freedom. I wish we Catholics could openly evangelize in State of Israel (we must do so in secret or they can deport you). The clergy & religious sisters/brothers of our Catholic Churches & ancient Catholic shrines in the modern State of Israel are only allowed to serve tourists & Christian pilgrims to Holy Land.

        • jacobhalo

          Proselytizing is becoming extinct in the Catholic church too. The pope called it nonsense.

      • entonces_99

        Czarist Russia never welcomed the Jews. In fact, it only became home to large numbers of Jews when it annexed large portions of Poland during the three partitions between 1772 and 1795. After the annexations, Jews were as a rule (which admittedly had many exceptions) not permitted to reside in Russia outside the “Pale of Settlement” (which largely corresponded to territory that formerly had belonged to the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

        • BPS

          The history’s a little mixed, but there seems to have been a large, prosperous population of Jews in Kiev (though ghettoized), many served in the army, and repression on any large scale didn’t begin until the late 1800s. Again, just want to note that my statement was a general one.

          • entonces_99

            Kiev was part of the Pale of Settlement. (It had been part of the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth, but it was conquered by Russia in 1667. The Jews had been expelled from Kiev in 1619, but they were permitted back after the partitions of Poland and the establishment of the Pale of Settlement.)

      • Jackt Phillips

        To cherry pick anecdotal evidence and call it “evidence” that God looks out for those who look out for Israel is specious reasoning. Want a reverse example? Isabella expelled the Jews in 1492, then discovered the New World and ushered in an era of Spanish dominance and influence in the world. Political fortunes wax and wane and while I support the state of Israel, let’s not be too quick to think that just because we support their state means that God will bless us. Tel Aviv and New York City? … Sodom and Gomorrah are back and I am loathe to think that God is well pleased with our nation on the basis of our support for Israel.

        • BPS

          Understood that this isn’t a perfect formulation. But even with Spain, one could say they were setup for success, but then they expelled the Jews and the good fortune they fell into (the riches won in discovery and conquering the new world) became more a curse (inflation, preference to purchase imports rather than develop internal industries) than a blessing. And I stress what I said that the blessing to Abraham and his decendents was a MATERIAL blessing. So Tel Aviv’s and New York’s riches could be used for good or ill. That the riches are misused doesn’t negate God’s promise.

    • s;vbkr0boc,klos;

      The ‘Palestinian’ narrative which attempts to erase Jewish history, the Temple and ancient Israel is a DIRECT attack on Christianity.

    • sixtus

      Yes, what a courageous piece. Sycophancy can be very demanding, and submission to the Zionist lobby and devotion to Israel is the very test of valor. One need only think of all the American political and journalistic careers that came to ruin of over supporting Israel and its pacific mission in the middle east, its selfless devotion to the betterment of mankind.

    • HC

      I believe Austin Ruse’s “conservative fab” convention that he kept referencing in the article is the CPAC (for Republicans) that started this week

      • Austin Ruse

        nope.cpac is hardly secret let alone super-secret. Ive been writing about all week on Breitbart.com..and, you know, its been in all the papers!

    • Thomas J. Hennigan

      Yes, Pope Francis is clueless regarding Islam in general and wrong in promoting muslim immigration. I wish he would study a bit of Church history and stop saying things which make one blush regarding Islam. The Islamic State is now in Lybia,not too far from Rome. Is it better to avoid bloodshed and hand over Europe to the Islamic savages? That was not what the Popes of the Middle Ages and the early modern period thought when promoted cruzades and in the process actually saved Europe from Islamic barbarity. Remember Pope St. Pius V and the Battle of Lepanto,, Blessed Innocent XI just to mention two who have been either canonized or beatified and were in the forefront of the struggle to against Islamic babarity.

    • John Flaherty

      Whether referring to the Kennedys, Cuomo, Al Smith, or any other, I’ve never felt that anyone has actually been elected to office with an intent to inculcate Catholic thought and belief into law. Kennedy was elected, yes, but I’ve read the text of his speech to the Baptist convention in Houston. He may as well have told them that he intended to Preside as a Protestant; he certainly did not intend to uphold any particular Catholic teaching. Al Smith was not elected, but offered no better than what I consider a very liberal interpretation of Catholic faith for the purposes of law.

      I’m not the least bit convinced we’ve ever had a true “Catholic Moment” in this nation.

  • RICARDO LAVIN YGLESIAS HASHEM

    What a mess you make when you mix politics, “convenience”, religion and nationalism with the teachings of our Lord, it stinks. You talk of everything and understand nothing. Our Lord is the culmination of mans search for God from the earliest times, it was embodied in the Jewish people over the centuries; their tragedy is the rejection of Him, their true king, not recgnizing the best and greatest Jew who ever lived. Much is due to religious and racist ego; we and they forget that Jesus, Mary, the apostols were Jews; not two people but one people, half accepted and were willing to die for Jesus, half rejected Jesus. Not two people but one people under God, Jews and Gentiles, these last represented by the sons of Abrahams other son, the Arabs. Not war, not ego, but love, understaning the other, forgiveness, not easy.

  • Catherine

    Every year on September 11th, the sheeple hold their pseudo-religious commemoration of the crucifixion of the Twin Towers and the Pentagon.

    But today, February 26th, is an equally significant anniversary.

    The crime wave of false-flag “Islamic terror” did not begin on 9/11/2001. The first major staged terror event blamed on Muslims was the February 26th, 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center – when six people were killed, and over 1,000 injured, by a 1,200 pound truck bomb assembled and detonated by the FBI.

    The bombing was orchestrated by Emad Salem, an Egyptian intelligence agent on loan to the FBI’s New York Bureau. Salem’s job was to recruit useful idiots and patsies for the FBI’s plot to bomb the World Trade Center.

    But Salem believed the whole thing was just a sting operation. He was told that the “bomb” the FBI would supply was going to be a dud. But not being stupid enough to fully trust the FBI, Salem secretly recorded many of his conversations with his handlers.

    When the devastating explosion rocked the WTC parking garage, causing so many deaths and injuries, Salem was furious. He surreptitiously recorded a conversation with his FBI controller demanding to know why the FBI hadn’t used a fake bomb as it had promised.

    Some of the patsies blamed for the 1993 bombing were completely innocent of any involvement. For example, Mohammed A. Salameh returned three times to the Ryder Truck Rental demanding a refund of his $400 cash deposit on the truck the FBI blew up. Had he been a terrorist who knew he had rented a truck that would be used as a bomb, he obviously would not have done that.

    The historical significance of the FBI’s bombing of the World Trade Center was not yet apparent in 1993. Since the internet was in its infancy, few learned that the FBI, not “radical Islamic extremists,” was the culprit, And nobody realized that a tidal wave of false-flag terror was about to wash over the world, drowning freedom and prosperity, launching Orwellian endless wars, and turning Western nations into militarized police states.

    Professor Lance DeHaven-Smith has pointed out that State Crimes Against Democracy (SCADS) are typically misunderstood as stand-alone events, when actually they are part of chains or series of linked events. For example, despite obvious circumstantial evidence that John and Robert Kennedy were killed by the same people (right-wing US military and intelligence personnel backed by conservative oligarchs) for the same reasons (to maintain the Cold War in general and the Vietnam war in particular – and perhaps to enable the Israeli bomb) the two assassinations are “seen as entirely unrelated.”

    Another series of interrelated State Crimes Against Democracy (SCADS) is the false flag terror crime wave that’s driving the War on Islam for Israel. From the FBI’s World Trade Center bombing of February 26th, 1993, to the “al-Qaeda” attacks on the US embassies in Dar es Salaam and Nairobi in 1998, to the attack on the USS Cole in October 2000, to the subsequent false flag atrocities of 9/11-anthrax, Bali, Madrid, London, and Mumbai, to the Fort Hood shooter, the underwear bomber, the Boston Marathon bombing, the Times Square bomb attempt, the chemical weapons attack at al-Ghouta, Syria, and “Islamic State” atrocities and beheading videos, and the recent Canada-Australia-Paris-Copenhagen false flag road show, the ongoing phenomenon of extremist, apparently strategically counterproductive terror attributed to “radical Islam” – but orchestrated by enemies of Islam – demands to be considered as a unified phenomenon, not a series of isolated events.

    So today is the day it all started back in 1993.

    Twenty-two years of false flag pseudo-Islamist terror: All following the blueprint drawn up by Netanyahu and his guests at the 1979 Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism (JCIT).

    Back at 1982, at my alma mater San Francisco State University, Philip Paull wrote a brilliant MA thesis explaining how, in the words of Nafeez Ahmed:

    “…a group of powerful elites from various countries gathered at an international conference in Jerusalem to promote and exploit the idea of ‘international terrorism.’ The (Jerusalem) conference (on International Terrorism, or JCIT) established the ideological foundations for the ‘war on terror.’ JCIT’s defining theme was that international terrorism constituted an organized political movement whose ultimate origin was in the Soviet Union. [That’s how it looked in 1982 – how could Paull have known they were going to make Islam the next Enemy of Western Civilization? -KB] All terrorist groups were ultimately products of, and could be traced back to, this single source, which-according to the JCIT-provided financial, military, and logistical assistance to disparate terrorist movements around the globe. [Shades of al-Qaeda, ISIS, “Jihadism,” etc. -KB] The mortal danger to Western security and democracy posed by the worldwide scope of this international terrorist movement required an appropriate worldwide anti-terrorism offensive, consisting of the mutual coordination of Western military intelligence services.”

    According to Philip Paull, Bibi’s guests at the 1979 JCIT Conference were: “Present and former members of the Israeli and United States governments, new right politicians, high-ranking former United States and Israeli intelligence officers, the anti-détente, pro-Cold War group associated with the policies of Senator Henry M. Jackson-a group of neoconservative journalists and intellectuals-and reactionary British and French politicians and publicists.”

    A decade later, the Cold War ended. A few years after that, the February 26th 1993 World Trade Center bombing launched the JCIT-hatched “War on Terror.”

    Ashton Carter, the current Secretary of Defense, and Philip Zelikow, the expert in “construction and maintenance of public myths,” collaborated on a 1998 article in Foreign Affairs magazine that displayed their foreknowledge of 9/11. In that article, using the 1993 WTC bombing as their springboard, Carter and Zelikow speculated on the likely results of a massive Pearl Harbor style terrorist event such as the destruction of the World Trade Center.

    Such a New Pearl Harbor, they said, would split time into a before and an after. The after would be a militarized gulag society that could easily be stampeded into a series of wars against any obstacles to Greater Israel’s regional hegemony.

    Today, 22 years after the first WTC bombing, and 13 1/2 years after 9/11, the scam continues: 9/11 treason suspect Ash Carter is pursuing a phony war against ISIS. The US, through its ally Britain, is airlifting weapons to ISIS – as the Iraqi government charged after shooting down two of the British planes. And the US and Turkey, which created and sustained ISIS with Israeli help, are sending still more arms to ISIS under the pretext of…get this…fighting ISIS. As Jim Dean says, you just can’t make this stuff up.

    • Laurence Charles Ringo

      Sure you can,Catherine…You just did. [ You have got WAAY too much time on your hands!!!]

    • quisutDeusmpc

      Are you perchance employed at CAIR?

  • Catherine

    Every year on September 11th, the sheeple hold their pseudo-religious commemoration of the crucifixion of the Twin Towers and the Pentagon.

    But today, February 26th, is an equally significant anniversary.

    The crime wave of false-flag “Islamic terror” did not begin on 9/11/2001. The first major staged terror event blamed on Muslims was the February 26th, 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center – when six people were killed, and over 1,000 injured, by a 1,200 pound truck bomb assembled and detonated by the FBI.

    The bombing was orchestrated by Emad Salem, an Egyptian intelligence agent on loan to the FBI’s New York Bureau. Salem’s job was to recruit useful idiots and patsies for the FBI’s plot to bomb the World Trade Center.

    But Salem believed the whole thing was just a sting operation. He was told that the “bomb” the FBI would supply was going to be a dud. But not being stupid enough to fully trust the FBI, Salem secretly recorded many of his conversations with his handlers.

    When the devastating explosion rocked the WTC parking garage, causing so many deaths and injuries, Salem was furious. He surreptitiously recorded a conversation with his FBI controller demanding to know why the FBI hadn’t used a fake bomb as it had promised.

    Some of the patsies blamed for the 1993 bombing were completely innocent of any involvement. For example, Mohammed A. Salameh returned three times to the Ryder Truck Rental demanding a refund of his $400 cash deposit on the truck the FBI blew up. Had he been a terrorist who knew he had rented a truck that would be used as a bomb, he obviously would not have done that.

    The historical significance of the FBI’s bombing of the World Trade Center was not yet apparent in 1993. Since the internet was in its infancy, few learned that the FBI, not “radical Islamic extremists,” was the culprit, And nobody realized that a tidal wave of false-flag terror was about to wash over the world, drowning freedom and prosperity, launching Orwellian endless wars, and turning Western nations into militarized police states.

    Professor Lance DeHaven-Smith has pointed out that State Crimes Against Democracy (SCADS) are typically misunderstood as stand-alone events, when actually they are part of chains or series of linked events. For example, despite obvious circumstantial evidence that John and Robert Kennedy were killed by the same people (right-wing US military and intelligence personnel backed by conservative oligarchs) for the same reasons (to maintain the Cold War in general and the Vietnam war in particular – and perhaps to enable the Israeli bomb) the two assassinations are “seen as entirely unrelated.”

    Another series of interrelated State Crimes Against Democracy (SCADS) is the false flag terror crime wave that’s driving the War on Islam for Israel. From the FBI’s World Trade Center bombing of February 26th, 1993, to the “al-Qaeda” attacks on the US embassies in Dar es Salaam and Nairobi in 1998, to the attack on the USS Cole in October 2000, to the subsequent false flag atrocities of 9/11-anthrax, Bali, Madrid, London, and Mumbai, to the Fort Hood shooter, the underwear bomber, the Boston Marathon bombing, the Times Square bomb attempt, the chemical weapons attack at al-Ghouta, Syria, and “Islamic State” atrocities and beheading videos, and the recent Canada-Australia-Paris-Copenhagen false flag road show, the ongoing phenomenon of extremist, apparently strategically counterproductive terror attributed to “radical Islam” – but orchestrated by enemies of Islam – demands to be considered as a unified phenomenon, not a series of isolated events.

    So today is the day it all started back in 1993.

    Twenty-two years of false flag pseudo-Islamist terror: All following the blueprint drawn up by Netanyahu and his guests at the 1979 Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism (JCIT).

    Back at 1982, at my alma mater San Francisco State University, Philip Paull wrote a brilliant MA thesis explaining how, in the words of Nafeez Ahmed:

    “…a group of powerful elites from various countries gathered at an international conference in Jerusalem to promote and exploit the idea of ‘international terrorism.’ The (Jerusalem) conference (on International Terrorism, or JCIT) established the ideological foundations for the ‘war on terror.’ JCIT’s defining theme was that international terrorism constituted an organized political movement whose ultimate origin was in the Soviet Union. [That’s how it looked in 1982 – how could Paull have known they were going to make Islam the next Enemy of Western Civilization? -KB] All terrorist groups were ultimately products of, and could be traced back to, this single source, which-according to the JCIT-provided financial, military, and logistical assistance to disparate terrorist movements around the globe. [Shades of al-Qaeda, ISIS, “Jihadism,” etc. -KB] The mortal danger to Western security and democracy posed by the worldwide scope of this international terrorist movement required an appropriate worldwide anti-terrorism offensive, consisting of the mutual coordination of Western military intelligence services.”

    According to Philip Paull, Bibi’s guests at the 1979 JCIT Conference were: “Present and former members of the Israeli and United States governments, new right politicians, high-ranking former United States and Israeli intelligence officers, the anti-détente, pro-Cold War group associated with the policies of Senator Henry M. Jackson-a group of neoconservative journalists and intellectuals-and reactionary British and French politicians and publicists.”

    A decade later, the Cold War ended. A few years after that, the February 26th 1993 World Trade Center bombing launched the JCIT-hatched “War on Terror.”

    Ashton Carter, the current Secretary of Defense, and Philip Zelikow, the expert in “construction and maintenance of public myths,” collaborated on a 1998 article in Foreign Affairs magazine that displayed their foreknowledge of 9/11. In that article, using the 1993 WTC bombing as their springboard, Carter and Zelikow speculated on the likely results of a massive Pearl Harbor style terrorist event such as the destruction of the World Trade Center.

    Such a New Pearl Harbor, they said, would split time into a before and an after. The after would be a militarized gulag society that could easily be stampeded into a series of wars against any obstacles to Greater Israel’s regional hegemony.

    Today, 22 years after the first WTC bombing, and 13 1/2 years after 9/11, the scam continues: 9/11 treason suspect Ash Carter is pursuing a phony war against ISIS. The US, through its ally Britain, is airlifting weapons to ISIS – as the Iraqi government charged after shooting down two of the British planes. And the US and Turkey, which created and sustained ISIS with Israeli help, are sending still more arms to ISIS under the pretext of…get this…fighting ISIS. As Jim Dean says, you just can’t make this stuff up.

  • Michael Petek

    There is scarcely anything correct in this article.

    Catholic truth is that the Church is the Temple, which completely replaces the Levitical sanctuary.

    But she does not replace Israel considered as a nation which a person is a member of by virtue of having been born of a Jewish mother, or by virtue of halakhic conversion.

    Regardless of belief or unbelief toward Christ, the holiness of a Jew remains in place and has the following consequences.

    Among the unbaptized a marriage cannot subsist between a Jew and a non-Jew.

    An unbaptized Jew is by divine right subject to the jurisdiction of the Beth Din by the very words of Christ (Matthew 23:1-3).

    A Jew is by divine right indigenous to the Land of Israel and is bound to bear allegiance to the Throne of David, which in turn has jurisdiction over the Land of Israel.

    I have become convinced that the State of Israel has theological significance as God’s response to the genocides of this and the last century against the People of God – the Balfour Declaration was issued immediately after the apparitions of Our Lady of Fatima and the Ottoman Empire’s campaign of genocide against the Armenians.

    God’s response to the threat of genocide is to lay upon His people and His Messiah the mandate for the annihilation of Amalek, of whom genocide against Jews and Christians is the characteristic crime. (Exodus 17; Deuteronomy 25; Esther passim).

    • Jamodus

      Now concerning the End-Times here is the fate of modern Israel: It is either they convert to Christianity or once again the land of Canaan will become un-inhabitable and unsuitable for Jews. And the Time is short.
      http://www.popeleo13.com/pope/2014/11/27/category-archive-message-board-186-harvest-of-plagues-6/

    • Austin Ruse

      of your theological belief in Balfour is your own belief.

      • Michael Petek

        The Balfour Declaration is a matter of divine providence, just as the gift of the land to Nebuchadnezzar was, and both are confirmed by divine revelation.

        God spoke through the prophet Jeremiah as to the earlier of these events (immediately after the death of King Josiah). Our Lady is the Ark of the Covenant, and her appearances at Fatima are the signal for the Israelites to enter the land and take possession of it.

        The reason for this disposition is given by the number 13. It is stated in the book of Esther that this was the date appointed for the destruction of the Jews. The suggestion is that God has given the Jews the authority to bear the sword to kill His enemies – today the Islamic State – who are determined to destroy His Church.

        • entonces_99

          The Balfour Declaration is “confirmed by divine revelation”? I had no idea that the Balfour Declaration was issued before the death of the last apostle.

  • Jamodus

    Brothers and sisters, Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus -outside the The One, Holy Catholic Apostolic Church there is no salvation
    http://popeleo13.com/pope/2015/02/26/category-archive-message-board-266-extra-ecclesiam-nulla-salus-3/

    • Austin Ruse

      of course, then we must decide what constitutes the Church. It certainly includes someone who is unbaptized and therefor unconfirmed but desires it.

      • AnthonyMa

        Unless I misremember my Catechism, someone who is unbaptized is unsaved. I remember a place called “Limbo” , of course that was a long time ago and may have been changed by one of the recent Popes.

        • Austin Ruse

          The Church teaches three kinds of baptism; water, blood and desire.

          • AnthonyMa

            But when my neighbor’s child died before baptism, the Sisters of St. Joseph taught us that the child ended up in Limbo. Are you saying they taught us wrong or that the policy has changed?

            • Austin Ruse

              The Church teaches that one must be baptized to have the beatific vision upon death. There are three kinds; water, blood, desire. The Church also teaches that one can only go to hell if at the time of your death you have an unconfessed mortal sin on your soul. So the question becomes, what happens to an unbaptized baby who also cannot have sinned? Theologians proposed something called Limbo, a place between Heaven and Hell, a place where a child is not punished but who does not have the full beatific vision. This has never been a formal teaching of the Church. Bottom line, the Church does not know.

              • AnthonyMa

                Some quick research shows this is a Vatican 2 teaching. I was in school shortly after Vatican 2, so I guess the good Sisters were just teaching the doctrine that had been in place for the previous 1,931 or so years.

                • Austin Ruse

                  What is a Vatican II teaching?

                  • AnthonyMa

                    Well now I’m confused. I found references about baptism in a Second Vatican Council teaching about baptism by water, blood, and desire and made the assumption that that is when the teaching began. Further reading shows it was included in the Baltimore Catechism. Now I received straight A’s in my catechism classes back in the late 60’s and early 70’s but didn’t remember this teaching. My parish priests have kept me up to date on the glories of illegal immigration and accepting homosexuality, though.
                    It was a rough half hour, but you taught me something today, thanks and good luck.

                    • Austin Ruse

                      It is in fact Biblical. Always has been taught by the Church.

                    • Scott W.

                      Exactly. In fact you will find the baptisms of desire and blood AND the teaching on Extra Ecclesia (that does not differ from the so-called V2 teaching) in Ott’s entirely pre-V2 Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma.

                    • Austin Ruse

                      The Church has always taught there’s no salvation without the Church. Correct. But. the understanding of this has evolved. For instance, are all the people who have never heard of the bible or the Church damned just because they have never had the opportunity to know the Gospel and the Church. No. The Church makes allowances for that. There are Muslims who do not know the name of Jesus yet they seek after theTruth. The Truth is Jesus.

                    • Scott W.

                      You do realize I’m on your side, right?

                    • Austin Ruse

                      Missed that. Sorry!

                    • Laurence Charles Ringo

                      Where in Scripture is that particular teaching,Mr.Ruse and who taught it?

                    • Austin Ruse

                      Which teaching ?

                    • Laurence Charles Ringo

                      The so-called “baptism of desire”;where in Scripture is that taught,and who taught it,Mr.Rose?

                    • Austin Ruse

                      Well, Jesus: “the Baptism wherewith I am to be baptized” (Lk. 12:50). This is a reference to his baptism by blood.

                    • Austin Ruse

                      There is also the story of Cornelius and his household. And also the good thief.

                    • Laurence Charles Ringo

                      Two things,Mr.Ruse: (1),I think that you are exercising a bit of eisegesis here,and (2),you’ve engaged the use of an oxymoron to make your case.In the first instance,the ministry to Cornelius and the others,it’s clear that any concept of a “baptism of desire” must be be read INTO the text;the Descent of the Holy Spirit while Peter was yet speaking precluded the idea that Cornelius and company sought baptism in the sense you implyed; obviously no such”desire”was either needed or necessary.It would be difficult,if not impossible,to prove that Cornelius and company would even know what such a praise would even mean,since the praise is not found on any of the Apostles / disciples lips.As for the so-called “good thief”,the concept of a “baptism of desire”fares even worse;how can you fit such an idea into the narrative between Christ and the thief? (The oxymoron in reflected in the fact that you referred to as a”good thief”…what is good about thievery?)—At any rate,I don’t see how the case is made for the concept of a so-called”baptism of desire”.No one disputes that Peter called for Cornelius and company to be baptized,but again one must explain the significance of the Holy Spirit’s Descent prior to said baptism. As for the thief,well…really,Mr.Ruse? Wouldn’t be better to leave the “mechanics”of how Almighty God saves in HIS Hands?—Mull and reflect,Mr.Ruse.

                    • Austin Ruse

                      It is what His Church teaches.

                    • Laurence Charles Ringo

                      Wow…No wonder catholics are uncomfortable with both The Scriptures AND theologians; you would actually have to be able to exercise genuine spiritual discernment and Biblical acumen,something few catholics can do. Instead,you are required to…”loyally submit your wills and intellects”…to those who,presumably,are your spiritual and theological”betters”,i.e.the so-called”magisterium “even though Scripture proclaims in 1st Corinthians 1:26-31 that Almighty God can make His revelations and teachings through vessels of His chosing.You will remember that in the Book of Acts chapter 4 when John and Peter were summoned before the presumed spiritual”elite”,they were regarded as”ignorant and uneducated”men( verse 13)–BUT,as stated,…”they had been with Jesus”…,and THAT made all the difference,didn’t it?.Speaking only for myself,Mr.Ruse,I’m not particularly impressed by what is presumed to be official “church teachings”per se; after all,any given church is comprised of sinful, erring, fallible men(and women.),and as such,I’m not obligated to trust them to always”get it right”,if you will.No,Mr.Ruse,you will have to do a WHOLE lot better than claiming…”It is what His Church teaches”…That’s simply a self-affirming statement,and as such doesn’t have the “imprimatur”of Almighty God’s command to believe it.You’ll have to do better than that to convince any thinking Christian that the concept of”baptism of desire”has any valid theological foundation rooted in The Scriptures themselves.

                    • Guest

                      You reflect scripture and you reject the Church. Ok.

                    • Laurence Charles Ringo

                      Sigh…Seriously,Mr.Ruse…I’m truly saddened that you cannot articulate your contentions better than you have so far; I’m STILL waiting for you to explain to me from whence came the concept of”baptism of desire”! Since you know that The Word of God doesn’t teach it,or even comes close to defining what it even means,your only fall-back position is to claim that your church teaches it.But how can you teach something that has no basis in reality,or at the very least is nothing but the shaky product of speculation and presumption? And to answer your question,no;I have absolutely no problem with The Scriptures from Genesis to Revelations,but your church’s presumed interpretations of same,well…that’s another issue all together.The concept of a so-called”baptism of desire”is an interpolation imposed upon a few select passages; it has NO Scriptural foundation,PERIOD.So,sorry…BIG FAIL,Mr.Ruse.And yes,I reject what YOU designate as “church”; it will take more than just your say-so to make the claims of YOUR particular ecclesiastical construct as being Christ’s church true.Constantine’s church would be more appropos;once what started out as truly Christ’s Church married the State in the person of Constantine the Great,it ceased being Our Saviour’s Church,no doubt in my mind about that.Again,mull and reflect,Mr.Ruse.
                      .

                    • GM

                      Interesting. I’m scanning the back and forth between you and Mr. Ruse. Ruse is not saying it’s his church but that is “His Church”. Quick appeal to scripture–“…I will build my church…” in Matthew 16:18. Who said that? Jesus. It is not Ruse’s church.

                      I think the thoughts in your comments smack of revolutionary thinking along the line of the revolutionary jewish kind. For example, it reeks of heavy anti-catholic sentiment. This thought that one can simply interpret the scriptures the Catholic Church handed down without its Holy Spirit guided interpretation Jesus promised is ridiculous. One thinks of the Ethiopian eunuch. Remember he said to St Philip something along the line of, “how can I understand unless someone tell me?” Tear out the table of contents in the bible you’re using–now who says what books go into that Bible? You won’t be able to without His Church.

                      Circumcision was dealt with by binding and loosing Authority given to the Church by Jesus. Where in scripture does it say circumcision will cease? Show it. I don’t think you can because it’s not there.

                      Enough of the revolutionary mindset. Quit being your own pope. Humble yourself and let the Church teach you. Only a fools guides himself. If not you will fall prey to revolutionaries–the very ones who have been denying Jesus from the time of the cross. The ones Rome disbanded in ad 70. The ones who in all hardheaded fashion fomented the bar Kochba revolution and were crushed again. The ones whom Julian the apostate supported in trying to rebuild their temple Jesus said would be crushed. You know with Rome’s support and gold and whatever else they couldn’t rebuild it because fireballs shot up from the ground and killed people. Crosses were tattooed on their clothes and earthquakes made things quite hard so they gave up. It’s all there preserved by the Church, look it up. St John Chrysostom mentions it if I’m not mistaken.

                      The Church has St Jerome who knew Hebrew, Greek etc better than any modern scholar. Shoots he even mentions the Gospel of Matthew even being written in Hebrew though we have no extent manuscript–you think he was lying?

                      And on and on. The Catholic Church will receive you brother–Holy Mother Church is calling you home.

                    • Laurence Charles Ringo

                      “And on and on indeed”…I don’t know who you are,”GM”,but you said about as much in this long,tiresome rant as Mr.Ruse said in his short one ;however,your boring recitation of the standard catholic party-line groupthink was oddly incoherent,and made no mention of the points I brought up to Mr.Ruse.At any rate,I don’t have to time to engage you at this time,”GM”,but be sure that God willing we both live through the day,I WILL address your claims—PEACE IN CHRIST.

                    • GM

                      The whole “NO Scriptural foundation, PERIOD” is part of the problem. The root of the issue is authority–rightly ordained authority as any catholic is obligated to begin with.

                      The position you suggest comes out on the loosing end. Infant baptism, circumcision being unnecessary, which books belong in the Bible and who has the authoritative interpretation is dependent on Authority.

                      Two questions related to two authorities. The Ethiopian eunuch of great authority. And Philip under the authority of the Holy Spirit.

                      First, “Thinkest thou that thou understandest what thou readest?”

                      Second, “And how can I, unless some man shew me?” Acts 8:30-31

                      There’s a Protestant and Catholic way of answering those questions. It’s hard to submit to authority but that difficulty is overcome through grace and humility.

                      The Ethiopian said no to his own authority and yes to Father, Son and Holy Spirit ordained one.

                      Might be tiresome using the “a” word so many times but boredom and tiredness is not the issue. Truth is. Modernist scripture scholarship with its atheistic philosophical assumptions is a dead end. It’s man made.

                    • Austin Ruse

                      First you reject scripture. Very clearly the Good Thief had baptism of desire and was first into Heaven. Second you reject the authority of the Church Founded by Christ and choose instead to be your own Pope. Fine. Enjoy.

            • huldah1776

              So the aborted are in hell? Who is the God who avenges the death of the innocent and doesn’t forgive the nation that practices child sacrifice?

            • Laurence Charles Ringo

              It’s my understanding that the Catholic Church no longer teaches the existence of”Limbo”,AnthonyMa.Can you find it in the Catechism?

        • Laurence Charles Ringo

          According to the Catechism,ALL baptized Christians everywhere constitute the Church.(The Profession of Faith, pp.235,section 818:…”All who have been justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ;they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers in the Lord by the children of the Catholic Church”…)—There you go.

    • Laurence Charles Ringo

      Been a while since I’ve heard that quote,Jamodus…And here I was thinking that,according to the one you catholics claim is your first”pope”,there is no salvation outside of The Saviour,Jesus Christ. (Acts 4 : 12)–How could I get it so confused?

  • Austin Ruse

    BTW..this conversation is much more interesting than my usual LGBT freak-fest.

    • Nostromo

      This really is “something to chew on”.
      Thanks!

    • Objectivetruth

      Really? You miss the fun and stimulation of lesbians screaming at you and calling you a “homophobe” and a bigot? Cmon, Austin…..you’re softening!

      Uh oh…..I better watch what I’m posting. Before I open the door a crack for Chuckie, the frog that boils slowly, and the rest of the gay gestopo to come screaming in.

  • William
  • CadaveraVeroInnumero

    We, in the West (especially of the religious sort) tend to make a comfortable distinction between hating Jews an hating Israel. No one else does. It is either love both or bath both. (This is ignoring the author’s theological points.)

    For a long time my wife and I were Antiochian Orthodox (meaning we worshiped with Arab Christians for many years). The dismissal and pure hatred of Jews was palatable; and, in spite of our wont in the West, had nothing to do with the so-called Israeli-Palestinian conflict.. Loved them all, dearly, but am relieved, not to be constantly dealing with their Jew-hatred.

    Arab Christians tend to be very conspiratorial-minded, as most are in the Middle East. They gave in to the accelerating pace of Christian Lebanon turning Muslim simply -in a logic all their own – because the Jews wanted it so and controlled the change over. That Lebanon is not long a majority Christian nation is something they bitterly hold against Israel (meaning, “World Jewry”). The Arab Christian migration from Lebanon to North and South American is one of the great emigration stories of the past century. It was all their doing; the draw of the West was too great. At the same time, as their proportional percentage decreased enormously in the homeland, they somehow still expected the nation to remain Christian. When it didn’t the folks to the south were easily blamed, as Jews always are.

    The depopulation of Lebanon as a Christian nation is a VERY DIFFERENT tale than the present sad, horrible extermination of Christianity in Iraq and Syria. Do not confuse them.

    Now Lebanon, made vulnerable by the self-exile of the nation’s Christians – and, please, don’t muddle this by bringing up the country’s prior civil war, WHICH THE CHRISTIANS COULD HAVE WON – now Lebanon is on the verge of becoming a province of the Islamic State Caliphate. See link below:

    Islamic State preparing to declare Islamic emirate in Lebanon
    February 26, 2015 5:56 pm

    How the Christians of Lebanon could have won the Civil War and maintained the nation as a majority Christian nation is for another post.

  • Mike W

    Very interesting your comparison between Christianity and the Jewish faiths and David and Saul – in some ways a very valid one. Perhaps we could all learn something in the way David treated Saul.

    I am one of many who shudder when Jews act unjustly but I still remember their position.

  • ADAM

    There’s a lack of understanding among many people, when it comes to Jews and Catholics. What many people fail to recognize is what exactly is meant by the term Jew. It can be spoken of in two ways: first, as an ethnic group which has absolutely no reference to religion whatsoever. That’s how there can be such a person as an atheist Jew. The word atheist here is an adjective describing someone in an ethnic group, not a religion, much like an atheist Spaniard or an atheist Greek. To hate someone, or hold them in extreme disregard because they are a Jew, in this understanding of the word Jew, is antisemitic – to hate them for their race, not their religion.

    The other way in which the word Jew can be understood is as a religion. So just as we can have an
    atheist Jew, who was born into the race, we can also have a faithful Jew, who was a convert. The point is, the race and the religion are not necessarily related, although in many individual
    circumstances, they are.

    Now, when we start looking at the Jewish faith, something pops out right away. After the destruction of the temple in AD 70 by the Roman general Titus and his 10th Legion, the Jewish faith ceased being what it had been up to that point. The major hallmarks of Judaism prior to the destruction of the temple were that they had a temple and offered sacrifice. The entire religion was focused on this one singular point.

    They also had a king and a land which helped them form into a religious nation. However, once the Romans were done with their work, the Jews as the religion of the Covenant no longer existed. Gone were the temple, temple sacrifice and the Jewish priesthood. These were the hallmarks, the essential non-debatable aspects of being a religious Jew. No temple, no sacrifice, no priesthood, no Judaism. What replaced it in history is what has come down to us today – Rabbinical Judaism. This is not the Judaism of the Covenant. It is a man-made religion.

    But what about the Covenant God made with Abraham? Did that Covenant cease to be? Did God retreat from his promise to Abraham? Not at all.

    On the Feast of the Assumption, the Gospel reading is the Magnificat, that beautiful portion of Luke’s Gospel where Mary, a young Jewish girl, cries out that God has remembered his promise of mercy, the promise he made to our fathers, to Abraham and his children forever. Catholics often fail to grasp the depth of this.

    The promise of the Covenant is fulfilled in the Catholic Church. We are the continuation of Israel.
    There is an unbroken chain from Abraham to us. The first members of the Church were virtually
    all Jewish, religious Jews. They went to the temple daily, prayed the prayers of the Covenant, etc.

    But the worship was now made complete in the Sacrifice of the Mass, the Holy Eucharist. This is why nothing was lost, in the sense of the Covenant, when Jerusalem was destroyed. It’s
    not so much that the Covenant was switched to a new group, as in so-called Replacement
    Theology. It’s much more the case that only a few former members of the Covenant stayed faithful. The vast majority rejected the Covenant, as was highlighted when their leaders shouted: “We have no king but Caesar.”

    The Covenant was continued in the few Jews who remained faithful to it by recognizing the Messiah. Then
    God added to their number a multiplicity of gentiles. The Covenant was never revoked by God. It was abandoned by the overwhelming majority of people called to it, and it is continued today in the Catholic Church.

    We have a priesthood, the sacrifice, the temple, and that is because Judaism was built on waiting for a Messiah, who would come to institute his reign. That happened two thousand years ago. The Jews who accepted him became the Church. The Jews who rejected him, having voted themselves out of the Covenant, went off and started a man-made religion. Talmudic or Pharisaic Judaism, today’s Jewish religion, is to ancient Judaism what Protestantism is to Catholicism. It looks a lot like it sometimes, but at its core, it’s very different.

    • Jamodus

      Adam, what a wonderful post! Do you have a website with this so that we can link our sites to it? Thank you! God bless you! And God bless us all in this End-Times that we live in.

  • tom

    Remember when there were “Catholic” countries, a Jewish country and Muslim countries?

    There are no Catholic countries anymore and we’re worried about Israel?

  • Michael Paterson-Seymour

    Pascal explains the relationship between the Christian and Jewish religions:-

    “To show that the true Jews and the true Christians have but the same religion – The religion of the Jews seemed to consist essentially in the fatherhood of Abraham, in circumcision, in sacrifices, in ceremonies, in the Ark, in the temple, in Jerusalem, and, finally, in the law, and in the covenant with Moses. I say that it consisted in none of those things, but only in the love of God, and that God disregarded [réprouvait] all the other things.”

    True religion does not consist in external things; thus our Lord teaches, “God is a spirit; and they that adore him, must adore him in spirit and in truth.” (Jn 4:24) and the Apostle says, “For we are the circumcision, who in spirit serve God;” (Phil 3:3)

    • ADAM

      Pascal continues:

      “To inspire faith in the Messiah it was necessary there should have been precedent prophesies, and that these should be conveyed by persons above suspicion, diligent, faithful, unusually zealous and known to the entire world.

      To accomplish all this, God chose this carnal people to whom he entrusted the prophecies that foretell the Messiah as a deliverer and dispenser of those carnal goods this people loved.

      And thus they have had an extraordinary passion for their prophets and, in sight of the whole world, have had charge of these books that foretell their Messiah assuring all nations that he should come and in the manner foretold in the books which they held open to the whole world. Yet this people deceived by the poor and ignominious advent of the Messiah have been his cruelest enemies. So that they, the people least open to suspicion in the world of favoring us, the strictest and most zealous there could be for their law and prophets, have kept the books incorrupt.

      Hence those who have rejected and crucified Jesus who has been to them an offence, are those who have charge of the books which testify of him, and who state that he will be an offence and rejected. So, they have shown it was he by rejecting him, and he has been proved alike both by the righteous Jews who received him and by the unrighteous who rejected him, both facts having been foretold.”

  • Objectivetruth

    Great article, Austin.

    So as Catholics, one can conclude that we are Jews that have reached the fulfillment of the covenant, or “fulfilled Jews?”

    Understand what I’m trying to say? Sincerely, is my logic correct?

    Any thoughts or comments appreciated.

  • RufusChoate

    Just two points because I went to confession today and the amount of sin I commit online with harsh comments is a little too much to continue.

    1. There was only one very mishandled War with Iraq fought from 1991 until 2001. There was only a Cease Fire in place for 10 years no peace treaty or surrender. Delay in destroying the Baathist allowed it to corrupt the UN and the Food for Oil program along with many of our allies. The war should have ended in 1991 with the Baathist regime utterly destroyed and Iraq paying a massive military crippling war reparations with all American Troops withdrawn in 90 days after victory. Democratic institutions are inimical to Islam and incompatible. The effort at nation building should not have even been attempt. Islamic states are best when we have our foot on their neck while we ignore them.

    2. I agree with the Theological synthesis of the Church being Israel but I love and admire the Jewish people and loathe their enemies. I firmly believe that we as Catholic Americans are obligated to inculcate, protect and foster a special relationship with them at the same level as Britain or any other European nation.

    Israel is the tip of the spear in Christendom’s perriennel life and death contest with Islam and it is always wise to keep your Spear tip sharp and bright.

    • AnthonyMa

      Most of Britain and Europe are pagan nations that embrace sodomy, abortion, fornication, greed and sloth. Roman Catholics should embrace only those peoples who agree with our concept of morality.

  • Thomas
    • CadaveraVeroInnumero

      An external video – as with large amounts of copy-and-paste texts – should not be posted here (in my opinion) as comment without commentary.

      So your point in posting was . . .?

      • Crisiseditor

        I generally agree. For some reason, the people who do this the most are conspiracy theorists.

  • cestusdei

    Israel has it’s faults, until you compare it to any Muslim country.

  • GM

    Dr E Michael Jones addresses this topic in a candid manner through his writing and speaking. Look up “A Goy’s Guide to World History” on YouTube. His book The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit is worth reading too.

    • Michael Petek

      E Michael Jones is dangerously in error. He builds an entire theology on the words of Jesus to the Jews (or Judaeans) “You are of your father the devil . . . . ”

      Jones’ interpretation of these words is misleading. Jesus could truthfully have said these words to any member of the human race. He was describing the consequences of being the offspring of Adam. Being Jewish had nothing to do with it.

      • GM

        Not sure what you mean by Jones building an entire theology on the words of Jesus to the Jews. It’s pretty clear in the Gospel of St John that Jesus is addressing Jews.

        St John:
        8:31 Then Jesus said to those Jews who believed him…
        8:48 The Jews therefore answered and said to him…
        8:52 The Jews therefore said: Now we know that thou hast a devil…
        8:57 The Jews therefore said to him…

        What is dangerous is the propagation of Talmudic Zionism and its subversion of the Catholic Church. The Church needs the vocabulary of its past to deal with the present nonsense. Instead, political correctness and the labeling of speech as anti-Semitic because Jews don’t like someone has blinded and handicapped many.

        • CadaveraVeroInnumero

          When and how did “Talmudic Zionism” gain supersuccession status over the Catholic Church and its curia administration?

          An utterly misreading the Gospel of John. First, Jesus’ use of the term “Jew(s)” was no different than the very influential “sectarians’ at Qumran (Dead Sea Scroll folks). He did not force into that term the whole history of the Jewish people or their Covenant with God. Jewish society and culture of the first century B.C

          • GM

            Modern Judaism’s holiest book is the Talmud–not the Old Testament. Jews fooled the Church for centuries on this note–until they were found out. Rabbis had to answer for the book before the pope in older times. You can fool some people some of the time but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.

            Ever read about a Talmudic Zionist meeting with Pope St Pius X? Pay attention to how Papa speaks to this Talmudic Zionist–note the clarity and unflinching courage in his use of the word “Jew/s”.

            Theodor Herzl’s Report on the Meeting with Pope Pius X in 1904

            On the 1st of July 1956 in the journal La Terre Retrovée a text of Theodor Herzl was published about his meeting with Pope Pius X on January 26, 1904:
            Yesterday I was with the Pope. The route was already familiar since I had traversed it with Lippay several times. Past the Swiss lackeys, who looked like clerics, and clerics who looked like lackeys, the Papal officers and chamberlains.

            I arrived 10 minutes ahead of time and didn’t even have to wait. I was conducted through numerous small reception rooms to the Pope. He received me standing and held out his hand, which I did not kiss. Lippay had told me I had to do it, but I didn’t. I believe that I incurred his displeasure by this, for everyone who visits him kneels down and at least kisses his hand.

            This hand kiss had caused me a lot of worry. I was quite glad when it was finally out of the way. He seated himself in an armchair, a throne for minor occasions. Then he invited me to sit down right next to him and smiled in friendly anticipation.

            I began: “Ringrazio Vostra Santità per il favore di m’aver accordato quest’udienza” [I thank Your Holiness for the favor of according me this audience].” “È un piacere [It is a pleasure],” he said with kindly deprecation. I apologized for my miserable Italian, but he said: “No, parla molto bene, signor Commendatore [No, Commander, you speak very well].” For I had put on for the first time—on Lippay’s advice—my Mejidiye ribbon.

            Consequently the Pope always addressed me as Commendatore. He is a good, coarse-grained village priest, to whom Christianity has remained a living thing even in the Vatican. I briefly placed my request before him. He, however, possibly annoyed by my refusal to kiss his hand, answered sternly and resolutely: “Noi non possiamo favorire questo movimento. Non potremo impedire gli Ebrei di andare a Gerusalemme—ma favorire non possiamo mai. La terra di Gerusalemme se non era sempre santa, è santificata per la vita di Jesu Christo (he did not pronounce it Gesu, but Yesu, in the Venetian fashion). Io come capo della chiesa non posso dirle altra cosa. Gli Ebrei non hanno riconosciuto nostro Signore, perciò non possiamo riconoscere il popolo ebreo [We cannot give approval to this movement. We cannot prevent the Jews from going to Jerusalem—but we could never sanction it. The soil of Jerusalem, if it was not always sacred, has been sanctified by the life of Jesus Christ. As the head of the Church I cannot tell you anything different. The Jews have not recognized our Lord, therefore we cannot recognize the Jewish people].”

            Hence the conflict between Rome, represented by him, and Jerusalem, represented by me, was once again opened up. At the outset, to be sure, I tried to be conciliatory. I recited my little piece about extraterritorialization, res sacrae extra commercium [holy places removed from business]. It didn’t make much of an impression.

            Gerusalemme, he said, must not get into the hands of the Jews. “And its present status, Holy Father?”

            “I know, it is not pleasant to see the Turks in possession of our Holy Places. We simply have to put up with that. But to support the Jews in the acquisition of the Holy Places, that we cannot do.” I said that our point of departure had been solely the distress of the Jews and that we desired to avoid the religious issues. “Yes, but we, and I as the head of the Church, cannot do this. There are two possibilities. Either the Jews will cling to their faith and continue to await the Messiah who, for us, has already appeared. In that case they will be denying the divinity of Jesus and we cannot help them. Or else they will go there without any religion, and then we can be even less favorable to them.

            “The Jewish religion was the foundation of our own; but it was superseded by the teachings of Christ, and we cannot concede it any further validity. The Jews, who ought to have been the first to acknowledge Jesus Christ, have not done so to this day.” It was on the tip of my tongue to say, “That’s what happens in every family. No one believes in his own relatives.” But I said instead: “Terror and persecution may not have been the right means for enlightening the Jews.”

            But he rejoined, and this time he was magnificent in his simplicity:

            “Our Lord came without power. Era povero [He was poor]. He came in pace [in peace]. He persecuted no one. He was persecuted. He was abbandonato [forsaken] even by his apostles. Only later did he grow in stature. It took three centuries for the Church to evolve. The Jews therefore had time to acknowledge his divinity without any pressure. But they haven’t done so to this day.”

            “But, Holy Father, the Jews are in terrible straits. I don’t know if Your Holiness is acquainted with the full extent of this sad situation. We need a land for these persecuted people.”

            “Does it have to be Gerusalemme?”

            “We are not asking for Jerusalem, but for Palestine—only the secular land.”

            “We cannot be in favor of it.”

        • Michael Petek

          Jesus is addressing Jews, but as sons of Adam.

          “You are of your father the devil” is spoken in truth to any member of the human race save for Jesus and Mary.

          • GM

            “Jesus is addressing Jews…” simple enough. This part, “…but as sons of Adam” is not present in the text. Not in chapter 8 or any other chapter in St John’s Gospel. A quick search of “Adam” shows that word is not present in the Gospel of John either.

            I think I understand where you’re coming from but think it unnecessary to bend over backward to accommodate Jews who hate the words of Jesus Christ. Why not just let the words fall as they will? They will not return void.

            Many Christian zionists are completely ignorant of modern Judaism’s history. They think it is older than the Church that Jesus established! Ridiculous nonsense! The Talmud has some of the nastiest blasphemies of Jesus and Mary whom you esteem. You properly respect Jesus and Mary–may God reward you in that. But Christians should denounce Zionism as incompatible with Christianity.

            Left to Jews of the Talmud the Gospel of St John and all of the NT would be consigned to flames. In the past the Church consigned the Talmud to the flames–wish something along that line happened today. It was done for a righteous reason–but that was a time when the Church was more relevant.

            Find out more about the Talmud and its relation to Zionism. Tell your friends and neighbors what you find out. We owe nothing to Jews who blaspheme Jesus and His Mother! Modern Judaism is a false relgion created to fight against the Catholic Church and stop Jews from converting. This goes back before the days of Islam.

            Jews, Muslim, atheist and everyone else should convert and become Catholic. Don’t let the Jew tell you otherwise.

            • Michael Petek

              The reason why members of the human race besides Jesus and Mary are “sons of the devil” is that they are sons of Adam. Being a son of Abraham is good as far as it goes, but it doesn’t change the fact that you are a member of a sinful race doomed to destruction.

              Only regeneration by the Holy Spirit can incorporate you in the New Adam so that you become a son of God.

              I wouldn’t worry too much about the Talmud. It has thousands of pages and only about six refer to Jesus, and even then doubtfully.

              Judaism isn’t so much a religion (for they have no Temple) as a way of life according to the Law of Moses, which at any time is whatever the Jewish courts and jurists say it is.

              These courts have jurisdiction from Our Lord Himself (Matthew 23:1-3). Not surprisingly, because a King isn’t doing his job if he doesn’t establish courts of justice.

  • Israel is sham democracy, for it denies vote to huge swaths of the population based on ethnicity. IOW, besides being a terrorist state, it’s also an apartheid. Supporting such a disgrace, along other disgraceful American allies in the region, of the culture of death is scandalous by anyone calling himself pro-life.

    • BPS

      Which “huge swath of the population”? Arab muslim citizens of Israel can and do vote and are even members of the Keneset.

      • Palestinians residing in East Jerusalem and in the West Bank cannot vote in Knesset elections. That’s almost 25% of the population.

  • Fred

    Israeli Mossad did 911. Some ally.

  • Aquinas Revival

    Thank you. The blind political support for the state of Israel demonstrated by many Christians has no theological basis and poses the greatest long-term threat to true Christian causes such as the pro-life movement. If you want to know how Christians are treated in Israel and Palestine, both by Muslims and Jews, one simply needs to ask the Christians that live there. In Ramallah, which was originally founded as a Christian village, Muslims and Christians have coexisted peacefully for hundreds of years. In fact, the band that plays in the famous Easter parade in Ramallah is a Muslim band. As for the Israelis? Just try traveling to the Church of the Nativity from elsewhere in the West Bank to celebrate Christmas. God speed…

    • CadaveraVeroInnumero

      As for your theory of co-existence of centuries I refer you to the writings of Bat Ye’or. Argue against her authoritative expose of the issue. Thank you.

      As for Bethlehem, the Islamist (which included the Arafat faction) turned Bethlehem and the international status of the Church of the Nativity (since the serge of the Church by Islam’s Jihad in ’05) into a flashpoint – that is, by turning the the town and vicinity of Bethlehem into a viperous islamist (and Arab clan/mob) nest. The Islamist have gain much traction from the situation since.

      Bethlehem was once 30-40% Christiqan. It is no 3-5?. That change is a result 2 events: 1) the self-exile decisions of the Arab Palestinian Christian population in general – the outcome of which I have witnessed personally; and 2), the planned, programmatic pressure of militant Islam to move them out.

      Palestinian Christians are some of the most educated and energetic people on our dear plant. Like the Christians of Lebanon (see my prior post) they have (and had) an eternal itch to keep on the move, to better themselves and their families (usually in America and South America).

      After the SIx-Day War, when Israel gained controlled of the West Bank, Arabs (both Christian & Muslim) gained a freedom of movement they had not had either under Jordan or the British Mandate. Palestinian Arabs took understandable advantage of it. And with the Arab Christians being the better educated and more motivated, they especially took advantage of the new freedom of movement.

      For anyone to assume that the Israelis wanted the Arab Christian out of the West Bank (let alone Bethlehem) is pure popppycock. Israel well understand what would be replacing the departing Christians – a terrorist culture such as Arafat installed in the West Bank. It has been hell sine, for both the Israelis and the Palestinian population that remained.

      As an aside, I think the author’s ignoring of the notion of “land”, as an integral aspect of God’s eternal covenant with the Jewish People (which he, along with the Church rightly affirms weakens the structure of his argument. I know it is a difficult thought to incorporate in Christianity’s tendency to “spiritualize” (to make *theosis* the controlling concept) but it cannot be so easily ignored. We can see the integral play of the notion of “land” (the realism of it) without feeling we are falling into some fundamentalist/dispensationalist rabbit hole. Think we greatly misunderstand St. Paul’s “Romans” in this regard. Personally, I have found a study of the Dead Sea Scroll documents a great assist in this.

      Yet, back to the first point. The myth of co-equal, peaceful existence between Christians and Muslims in the Middle East needs to staked and burned on the fire-purging pyres of truth.

      Read Bat Ye-or. Debate her.

      [NOTE: the remnants of Jew/Israeli Hatred that are still fueled by elements within the Church – of which I have also witnessed in both the Orthodox and Catholic Churches – needs to be examined and exposed. ]

      [NOTE. NOTE. Along with the author, I find it a relief not to have the New Homophile campaign swoop down on my attention as some Camp Robber Raven.snatching up my blogging time!~

      • Aquinas Revival

        Cadaver – you apparently have the same flawed and labored view of the Mid-East as the neocons and the “Christian” (sic) zionists whom this article shows to be theological drunkards. To once again use Ramallah as an example, it was part of Jordan until Israel illegally invaded it in ’67, and continues to illegally occupy it to this day. Why don’t you ask your bag lady, Bat, to come and speak with me and the numerous Palestinian Christians with whom I am very close friends about your and her “poppycock” position. Please, come and convince them how much better it is for them to have been booted off of their land by noble Israelis than those barbaric Muslims with whom they lived for centuries. While you’re at it, explain to them that their land that was confiscated for settlements – for Russians and Europeans who have no more of a claim to the land than does any American – in the interest of fulfilling biblical prophecy (as the Christian (sic) zionists believe) and God’s providential plan. Tell them that the complete destruction of their local economy under Israeli occupation was not really the reason that so many of them left; that they just have (to draw from your own verbal dongue heap) “an eternal itch to keep on the move.” Finally, let them know that when they are frustrated and appalled when they try to visit their homeland by the brutal and oppressive treatment they receive from their Israeli occupiers, they really shouldn’t be complaining because it could be so much worse under some of the Islamists in the region such as ISIS. I’m sure you’ll have them at “hello.” Also, to set the record straight, I was in no way suggesting that all Muslims have at all times treated all Christians with dignity and respect. Rather, I was offering the example of Ramallah as one (but by no means not the only) example of Christians and Muslims peacefully coexisting, without either occupying or ruling over the other.

        My one bit of advice, in all seriousness, is to research this issue on your own and to pray that God will show you the path toward the truth, and give you the strength and courage to follow it. Getting your information from the mainstream media is an exercise in futility when it comes to understanding the Mid-East. Talk to some people from the region, in particular, Christians. You just might be surprised by what you will learn.

        • CadaveraVeroInnumero

          The relations between Christians and Islam is hundreds of years in the making, and little of it is positive. “My gal” Bat (Ye’or) is correct, even about Ramallah.

          Israel’s big, unforgivable error was to permit the return of Arafat and his criminal islamist/marxist gang back into the West Bank – under pressure of the Americans and the Europeans. (And with a side boon for the Soviets, for h was their man.) His return was the great distress of Ramallah. Israel gained nothing from their yielding, except grief.

          Do not assume I am not incorrectly briefed on all things Palestinian.. Nor assume that I am somehow a ark, deep cover editor of The Weekly Standard.

          You are simply mistaken by taking your cleaver and slicing “Talmudic” Judaism from the Old Testament. Your understanding of the Jewish People, and their history, is faulty in the extreme.

          One of the most frustrating aspects of being Catholic – as it was being Orthodox (Antiochian Orthodox, by the way) – is putting up with “respectable” anti-Semiticism. How easy it is to hate a Jew.

          [Read John Loftus’ “Secret War Against the Jews”, then get back to me.]

          • Aquinas Revival

            As with most uninformed Americans, you fail to distinguish between the Jewish people and the political state known as Israel. Just as an appeal to one’s sense of patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel, so is the insinuation that someone with whom you do not agree is simply motivated by racial or religious prejudices. To be critical of the state of Israel is not to be anti-Semitic, no more than being critical of Barack Obama’s views on abortion renders one a racist. If you were so informed on all things Palestinian, you would know that some of the most ardent advocates for upholding the basic human rights of the Palestinians are in fact Jews, such as Noam Chomsky, Norman Finklestein, Amira Hass, Ilan Pappe, and Henry Siegman (who happens to be the former executive director of the American Jewish Congress, and the former head of the Synagogue Council of America), to name a few. I don’t expect you to take my word for it, so I would invite you to watch the following interview given by Mr. Siegman last year after the most recent bombardment of Gaza: http://www.democracynow.org/2014/9/1/a_slaughter_of_innocents_henry_siegman
            Human rights is not an either/or proposition, but is for Christians a universal expression of the inherent dignity of every human person, from conception to natural death, regardless of race, gender, creed, or other superficial designations. And yes, that includes both Jews and Muslims, and even you and Bat.

  • CadaveraVeroInnumero

    Fred,

    See my reply to Aquinas Revival – where I do not discuss 9/11. Hidden within, though, like a conspiracy peeled into a theorist onion, you will discover my reaction to your inane and tired accusation.

    You talk about 9/11 being a Mossod job, and I’ll talk about rat-lines running through Catholic Croatia and Vatican/Rome funneling Nazis into South America under the nose of the Pope. Which, by the way, the Mossod (better, its early construction) knew about and used for their own purposes – and,, with the eager assistance of Catholic Czechoslovakia. Which one of us will have the better argument? (“The Secret War Against the Jews” by John Loftus)

    Along with Aquinas Revival, go read Bat Ye’or; and Andrew Bostom while you’re at it.

  • Ruth Rocker

    Excellent article with some, to me, unknown information about Israel. I always find it amusing the way people try to link this or that event to Biblical prophecy. Jesus, himself, said NO ONE would know the hour of His return. Exactly what part of that statement is understandable? Silly wabbits, prophecy is for God 😀

    Lord, protect your people!

  • Constance

    “The State of Israel routinely tries to blockpro-life Christian NGOs from getting UN accreditation.” YES, because they are “anti-life” and sinister. They have given us all the
    trouble in Gaza and much much more.

    Mel Gibson knows, and lives in Hollywood which
    is run by Jews. And David Irving.

    Vatican II (brought about by Illuminati) –
    brought regression, in the guise of progression.

    Please google Malachi Martin who knew stuff ashe was a chief liaison with the Jews (an Irish scholarand kinda mystic) who communicated with chief rabbis in the early 60’s. He was mysteriously pushed down the stairs and died 2wks later. He had become
    distressed and left the Jesuits as he feared this new liberalism/progressive
    dogma and predicted the plan forthe NEW WORLD ORDER. Another priest was
    murdered, named “Kunz” (some kind of satanic ritual killing).

    Catholic Pilgrim: Hang

    on, but Christian Russia (the Soviet Union) was
    disgustingly attacked by Jews. From

    60 to 140 million Are you aware that all theCommunist leaders were Jews, including Stalin. Can you tell me why 85% of theCommunists were Jews? All Commies anywhere have a natural majority of Jews. All leaders including Trotsky and Lenin, also spread in other countries like Hungry. And who is Communism’s greatest enemy? Yes, the Catholic Church! And the invasion of Christian Poland – see Katyn Massacre (all the intellectuals
    and elite). Why a Christian country you say. The Bolsheviks also invaded and
    raped 2 million Germans in Prussia – any female from 8yrs to 80 yrs.

    It’s insidious. And I do not understand why the relationship between Jews and Communism as been obfuscated or never brought up. It’s always Fascism and Nazi always complained about ie Godwin’s Law, and never Communism – you must ask “WHY?” Because Communists have been the biggest killers of all time. Hitler was a national socialist anyway.

    Israel is not our friend – they are the ANTI-CHRIST. And they are the plotters of the NEW WORLD ORDER. They did 9/11. And much evidence is there that they killed the Kennedys. They are Masters of Deception.

    Look at the Jewish Talmud for instance. It was created 400AD. Why?

    I read a part in the Talmud that said foetuses are not considered human at all until born. They are definitely not pro-life, they are the opposite. Psycho death cult.

    Judaism is not a religion, it is only about weird laws. It is an Atheist cult. Even Satanic.

    It looks like today’s modern Jews in fact are false Jews who are Kazars (Turk tribe) who once had a Jewish state.

    Jews/Zionists have committed dreadful atrocities to Palestinians and it is said in the Talmud that all Non Jews are not human.

    Jews have been implicated or have caused many wars in the world for centuries. They have colluded with the Freemasons against the CC and causing civil wars, even the American one. Sinister bankers – The Rothchilds have been there for all the wars, stealing money from the Gentiles as wars make money. Then cause Depressions and stock market crashes caused by people like the Rothchilds.

    The Islamists are a cover and looks like Al Qaeda and co were created by the Zionsits. The two forces in action. Jews and Muslims were the biggest slave traders.

    Vatican II was planned by them. They have infiltrated the Vatican. Rothchild’s Jesuits. I have seen two Jesuit priests even named on a Zionist’s site.

    Wester universities are plagued with Marxist academics. Marx was a Jew.

    Also look up Bella Dodd who was a chief Legal Counsel for the Communist Party who got deprogrammed and returned to the CC.

    The media and Hollywood are controlled by Jews. The Holocaust is an industry. Think about it. The West has been totally fed PROPAGANDA in order to confuse and cause division. And we have that, don’t we?

    They caused the PROTESTant reformation. Calvin was Jew (false converso). Geneva is Calvin city. United Nations lives there and was created by Jews. A Zionist even said that there is a Satanic designed room there in the UN.

    Everything is CORRUPT in a very sinister way for the return of the tribes of Israel (NEW WORLD ORDER). The lost six tribes, which is us.

    We do not live in democracies, Yes, like the article “We are Israel”. Look
    up ILLUMINATI and NOW. Jews and Freemasons. Remember once Freemasons
    would not admit Catholics. My father was in the police force and he told me they had secret hand shakes.

    The Communists created political correctness. Please think about all this and look hard at what is happening in our societies. Family breakdowns, drug addicts both illegal and legal, stress, over working, complexities, people becoming like robots with technology, bureaucracies growing, big government, more and more rules and regs.

    It is not a false conspiracy. There are clear patterns throughout history. There have been several Jewish US presidents involved in the ILLUMINATI. Look at your one dollar note which shows the eye and pyramid (Babylonian Freemasonary)

    The invasion of Iraq was a ploy to create khaos and hatred of US and the West. Their principle is DESTROY and CONQUER. George Bush is one of them.

    MASTERS OF DECEPTION. Revolutionaries and agitators.

    Please watch the movie, “The Matrix” written and made by Jews. This is part of their bible. Red Pill and Blue Pill – different states of consciousness.

    MATRIX SEMINAR

    Jewish site:
    http://www.aish.com/sem/mat/?s=fw

    Overview: The film is a powerful metaphor
    expressing universal concepts of Judaism.

    A Bob Dylan film,

    “Masked and Anonymous”, “The
    Fight Club” and

    “Magnolia” are all three very
    thought-provoking. Nothing like the

    Matrix and the way it can be explained in the
    way used so well by AISH; but they are sure in my ‘Top 10’!

    Definition:

    Olam, the Hebrew word for “world”, is
    from the root

    meaning “hidden”. The world is God’s
    mask. Peel back the layer of

    this world and look beyond the Matrix to get a
    glimpse of The Programmer.

    There is a Master Programmer,

    beyond the Matrix, and the universe is His
    program.

    Beyond the Matrix, who says fire must burn? A select few throughout
    history have transcended the Matrix of this world, breaking the rules and
    rewriting the program.

    When the Jews stood at the Red Sea, they didn’t have to dodge the
    water. They went right through it.

    Please check posts by Constance on http://www.onlineopinion.com. Click “Forum” then go to alphabet on left side and look for Constance. If you have a chance.

    But people are talking about Globalisation and New WorldOrder. Rothchild even hinted of there being one currency for the world. The evil doers will espouse diversity but they only want one monotonous blob of blandness and slavery. We are already slaves
    to work and mortgages where debt is encouraged (part of the NWO plan).
    They want us to be left helpless, paranoid and enslaved. No choice
    if both parents should work unless rich.

    Remember that USURARY was once a sin in the CC before the reformation and so called Enlightenment. DIVIDE and CONQUER is their motto. And there are corrupt Jesuits involved, they are most likely to have caused all the paedophilia scandals in the CC.

    Read more: Divide and Conquer

    by Domestic Terrorism: Progressives Take the
    Bait

    Bayer Infects Thousands with HIV, Clinton’s

    Shocking Bedfellows & Netanyahu’s Cartoon Lies
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph3LX5hzqLc

    http://www.activistpost.com/p/quotes.html

    9/11, JFK assassination,

    holocaust debated at US university

    http://truthjihad.com/news/?p=985

    Michael Collins Piper: FINAL JUDGEMENT lecture [Mossad
    connection to JFK Conspiracy]

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2utTWSdq8YY

    http://truthjihad.com/news/?p=1033

    Israel threat to world:

    http://rense.com/general18/rep.htm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Bernard_%28diplomat%29

    A Century of Deceit: World

    Wars and Zionist Militarism

    http://truthjihad.com/news/?p=942

    The cult of atheist Zionism posing as Judaism

    By

    Rich Siegel

    http://www.deiryassin.org/byboard44.html

    http://bushiraqwar.blogspot.com.au/2015/02/deja-vu-nazi-germany.html?utm_source=BP_recent

    US State Dept of Home Security

    DEJA VU NAZI GERMANY

    De-fund Homeland Security Now !

    Posted by Preston James, Ph.D on

    February 24, 2015

    Homeland Security was set up byIsraeli-American “Israeli-first” Dual Citizens as an Israeli police State occupation army inside America and it’s time to completely de-fund itand destroy it forever.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Israel_Public_Affairs_Committee#Criticism

    AIPAC’s success is due to its ability to reward

    legislators and congressional candidates who support its agenda, and to punish
    those who challenge it. … AIPAC makes sure that its friends get strong financial support from the myriad pro-Israel PACs. Those seen as hostile to Israel, on the other hand, can be sure that AIPAC will direct campaign contributions to their political opponents. …
    The bottom line is that AIPAC, which is a de facto agent for a foreign government, has a stranglehold on the U.S. Congress. Open debate about U.S. policy towards Israel does not occur there, even though that policy has important consequences for the entire world.

    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

    § Most European capitals are targets for our [Israel’s] air force….We have
    the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that
    that will happen before Israel goes under.” — Martin Van Creveld, a
    professor of military history at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem.“We can still remember the smell of Auschwitz and Treblinka. Next time we’ll take all of you with us.” –An Israel official quoted in the 1991 book “The SamsonOption”.

    “Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.” –General Moshe
    Dayan, a leading promoter of Israel’s nuclear program “Israel could respond [to an Iraqi attack] with a nuclear retaliation that would eradicate Iraq as a country.” –Israeli defense analyst Zeev Schiff, 2002

    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/File:Israeli_professor_says_we_could_destroy_all_european_capitals.jpg

    http://www.adl.org/

    http://www.bnaibrith.org.au/

    http://www.bnaibrith.org/

    http://www.adl.org/press-center/press-releases/anti-semitism-international/adl-harshly-criticizes-former-french-minister-for-his-comment-on-jewish-influence.html

    http://www.carolmoore.net/nuclearwar/israelithreats.html

    Originally a strategy of last resort retaliation – even if it means Israel’s
    annihilation – it has developed into being a nuclear bullying strategy to
    further Israel’s territorial goals through threats and blackmail. Israel has
    bullied not only Arab and Muslim nations, but the United States and Russia with
    its Samson Option threats. Mordechai Vanunu has alleged that Israel uses for purposes
    of blackmail its ability to “bombard any city all over the world, and
    not only those in Europe but also those in the United States.”

    1963:

    Kennedy refuses to sign any security arrangement
    with Israel. After

    Kennedy assassination brings the very pro-Israel
    Lyndon Johnson to power.

    (Not surprisingly there is an assassination
    conspiracy theory that the Mossad killed Kennedy.) The link is now missing. Wonder why?

    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/09/how-washington-helped-create-is-201493144249940421.html

    Also, a site
    called Zionist Crime Factory has within the last month been SUSPENDED! Who are
    the censors on the internet? Likely to be Zionists. The Russian mafia are Zionists and looks like they were the real US mafia.
    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/09/21/making-you-an-agent-of-the-state/

    https://syrianfreepress.wordpress.com/2014/08/13/isis-is-run-by-simon-elliot-a-mossad-agent-reports-and-links-collection/

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/08/04/french-report-isil-leader-mossad/

    Rockefeller Admitted Elite Goal Of Microchipped Population.
    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/290107rockefellergoal.htm

    How the Rockefellers Re-Engineered Women:
    http://www.savethemales.ca/001904.html

    “Israel as bad as the UK “– yes, as England/UK is not a democracy but a Plutocracy, ie is run by the extreme rich, like the Rothchilds. England is no longer
    English. Birmingham is Islamic for eg. The US and rest of the West are hardly democracies. Maybe Switzerland is and coincidently are armed in every household and have banned Islamic minerets. Gnomes of Zurich? Calvinist Geneva. I am told that Switzerland is practically a Jewish state.

    American presidents have been Jewish. B Franklin, The Roosevelts, Woodrow
    Wilson. All hidden. And many Jews change names and make them up.

    NEW WORLD ORDER Timeline:
    http://www.tomatobubble.com/fh1.html

    Old Catholic Europe – why do you think they had expulsions of minorities such as Muslims and Jews. There must have been valid reasons? Why would they be expelled if harmless?

    Nothing has changed. We are actually worse off now because of the disempowerment of the Catholic Church and the progressive PROPAGANDA we are constantly fed.

    I really hate to be so sober but we have to face the reality. There are clear patterns
    throughout history or at least from the start of US history. I am willing to change my mind if anyone can reasonably challenge this info.

    “There is No Business like Shoah Business”, quoted by an Israeli Foreign Minister.

    • Laurence Charles Ringo

      And here we have it,people—Constance,the TRUE VOICE of how The Roman Catholic Church REALLY FEELS about The Jews!!!WHO’DA THUNK IT???—-WOW!

      • Constance

        Who said I represent the CC? Have you not read the variety of comments on this article. I have never ever held anything against Jews until I discovered plenty of evidence very recently. Hell I have cousins who are half Jewish and have stayed with Jews in New York. I only vaguely had any idea of Zionism till now. It lead from looking at Islamist terrorism and one thing lead to another. It is of course not all Jews but there is a certain very strong faction of Judaism who may not even be real Jews.

        You tell me why they happen to be so powerful?

        Go ahead, I’m up for the challenge. I’m willing to discuss.

  • YanniP

    Dear
    Austin, I believe you state too much by claiming “Nor are those Jews who never
    converted necessarily accursed.” The
    Church has always called all men to conversion, without which they are accursed.
    The Council of Florence clearly stated: “[the Church] firmly believes, professes, and proclaims that those not living within the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics cannot become participants in eternal life, but will depart
    “into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels”[Mt
    25:41], unless before the end of life the same have been added to the
    flock.”

    Also, I assume the operative word in your statement: “Jews are in and will be in the Catholic Church and St. Paul said this would always be so. So, Jews are indeed a part of the New Israel—Hebrew Christians—and this unique promise was made to no other people.” is “Hebrew Christians”. As a blanket statement that “Jews are in and will be in the Catholic Church” as an omnibus racial inclusion would not be Catholic teaching.

    Also, while you hesitate using the term “revoked”, the Church has used terms such as superseded, abolished, abrogated or even “died”(See, Redemptoris Mater Fn 2,
    Roman Catechism Part III discussing the Third Commandement, Pope Bendict XIV’s
    Encyclical Ex Quo 63 and Mystici Corporis Christi 30).

  • YanniP

    And I forgot to say “Thank You!” Very good article.

  • Jdonnell

    Ruse offers a ruse to entrap Catholics into falling for the Israel is a democracy line. Tell it the Palestinians or the Israeli Arabs, whose ID cards, etc. enable them to be distinguished from Israeli Jews. Israel consistently violates human rights, as anyone purporting to be involved in an HR organization ought to know. Israel increasingly looks fascist, not democratic. The Israelis who burned down a Christian church (and a mosque) last week don’t want the equality necessary in any country that calls itself democratic. Those Catholic-hating Israeli arsonists are a minority, but the heads of Israel’s government persist in wanting the country to be recognized as a “Jewish state.” You can’t have that and call yourself a democracy.

    • Aquinas Revival

      I agree, except the author is not following the normal “We are Israel” line. Rather, he is pointing out that per the Church’s teaching, the Church is the New Israel and ther is thus no theological basis for supporting the state of Israel qua nation state. Read my earlier posts below – I agree with both use u and the author.

  • somebigguy

    I find it curious that the state of Israel is, for all intents and purposes, anti-life. The nation that survived– in a very real sense– the Holocaust? That its political, cultural and religious leaders are not unanimously, unequivocally and in the broadest sense pro-life makes no sense at all.

    By the way, I agree with everything PM Netanyahu said before Congress earlier this week, save this: that the greatest threat the world faces is Islamic extremism. As anyone familiar with pro-life issues knows, the greatest threat the world faces is our anti-life culture, one that practices contraception, abortion, euthanasia and reduces the marital act to mere recreation.

  • Somesmallguy

    Yes, “somebigguy” when it comes to “security” against “the enemy”—it seems that Machiavellian
    survival and political “success” trump any notion of the dignity of certain human life. My country right or
    wrong. Pro-life, yes, but not for our “enemies”—read: all those who dare to
    show resistance to the U.S. policy of “full-spectrum dominance”—which means
    that the U.S. military can invade any country it wants when it wants, rape and
    destroy it, and then demand that we all praise the whole thing as
    “nation-building,” and—now—can
    arrest anyone in this country and hold him indefinitely without a trial. It also means that you must adore Netanyahu as he executes the mass murder of Gazans and takes over the House of Representatives with psychopathic lies and incites crimes against humanity in the form of nuclear war with a completely innocent Iran.

    The
    resistors to such American Goodness don’t deserve life! God blesses us, alone! They
    are the terrorists and fanatics (not we!), for they dare to question our
    Goodness when we bomb them to freedom! We are the chosen ones!

  • Paul Tran

    This is an excellent article for which I will treasure for the rest of eternity. Here in the UK, I am surrounded by liberal Christians and Catholics who constantly peddle their anti-semetic agenda in support of the Palestinian Arabs. The reality of the situation in the Middle East is that other Arab nations are only united in the wish to annihilate Israel and they couldn’t care less about the Palestinians. In Jordan, Syria etc … Palestinians are denied of citizenship and rights regardless if they are born, bred and brought up in these countries.

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