Cardinal Dolan Must Step Down as Parade Grand Marshal

Now there can be no doubt—Timothy Cardinal Dolan has been played for a sucker by the organizers of the 2015 New York City St. Patrick’s Day parade. He must step down as Grand Marshal.

According to reports, parade organizers are engaged in last-minute negotiations with city officials to allow additional Irish LGBT advocacy organizations to march in this year’s parade. Such groups had been prohibited from marching by a long-standing ban on explicitly political banners in the parade, a policy that also kept pro-life groups off Fifth Avenue.

In September, the parade committee announced that a single group, OUT@NBCUniversal, would be allowed to march in 2015. The media hailed the change of policy as a historic victory for the gay activists who have targeted the parade since 1991. The New York Times called the decision “a measure of changing attitudes in the hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church.”

But many in the Irish gay community felt the decision was merely a PR move designed to placate NBC, which airs the parade. Groups such as Irish Queers felt the new policy was not what they had campaigned for—a genuine gesture of surrender on the part of organizers. They called it “a trick to fool sponsors.”

The real trick appears to have been played on Cardinal Dolan, who assured critics at the time that he knew what he was doing. “If the Parade Committee allowed a group to publicize its advocacy of any actions contrary to Church teaching, I’d object,” he said. “In fact, the leaders of the Parade Committee tried to be admirably sensitive to Church teaching.”

Given how things have shaken out, one wonders what Cardinal Dolan thinks qualifies as “sensitive to Church teaching?” Like many, I had high hopes for Dolan when he was named archbishop of New York in 2009. His considerable personal charm seemed the perfect fit for American Catholicism’s biggest stage. He promised to be a commanding presence at the helm during a period of increasingly virulent political attack.

But when many questioned his decision to serve as Grand Marshal—this year of all years—Dolan defended himself with an appeal to semantics.

“[T]he committee’s decision allows a group to publicize its identity, not promote actions contrary to the values of the Church that are such an essential part of Irish culture,” he wrote in his weekly column. “I have been assured that the new group marching is not promoting an agenda contrary to Church teaching, but simply identifying themselves as ‘Gay people of Irish ancestry.’”

Instead of explaining us to them, Cardinal Dolan seems to think his job is explaining them to us.

I wonder if the parade committee—that bastion of integrity—has reassured the Cardinal that any additional groups it chooses to march will also not promote “an agenda” contrary to Church teaching. It’s hard to believe Dolan is so naïve as to think that groups with names like Irish Queers and the Lavender and Green Alliance seek nothing more politically potent than a moment in the sun on Fifth Avenue.

Does 25 years of labeling Cardinal O’Connor, the Ancient Order of Hibernians, and anyone who dared defend the old policy a homophobic religious zealot not count as an agenda in Dolan’s book?

Here’s a question for His Eminence: Does the Catholic Church have an agenda? Or is it just a group of likeminded people who meet once a week, chant a few ancient riddles, break a little bread, and split?

In fact, the Church has multiple spiritual, cultural, and political agendas, including its well-known agenda to protect and uphold the dignity of every human life from conception to natural death. Catholics in the New York area—and, indeed, around the world—have valiantly dedicated themselves to this agenda, sometimes at great risk to their professional reputations and personal safety.

Yet, even as the parade committee is now looking for ways to increase the number of gay advocacy organizations marching in the parade, it is stiff-arming pro-life groups who thought the change in policy would apply equally to them. If Cardinal Dolan is going to lead this parade, he needs to answer for this shabby treatment. And if he thinks he’s going to go on national television and be congratulated for his forward-thinking leadership, while the faithful Catholics who supported and defended the old policy at the behest of his predecessors are labeled hate-filled bigots, he should know that this betrayal will not soon be forgotten.

Cardinal Dolan has dutifully noted that neither he nor his predecessors were involved in deciding who marches. Fair enough, and probably true. Furthermore, it wasn’t his decision to change the long-standing policy to keep political banners out of the parade. Fine.

But by personally leading the procession, he blesses the whole shameful affair.

That’s a slap in the face to anyone who ever took strength from the Lorica of St Patrick:

I arise today
Through God’s strength to pilot me;


God’s shield to protect me,
God’s hosts to save me
From snares of the devil,
From temptations of vices,
From everyone who desires me ill …

Christ prepared us to be hated on account of His name. We’ve taken the abuse and the name calling for 25 years, we can take it for a while longer yet.

Matthew Hennessey

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Matthew Hennessey is a writer from New Canaan, CT, and a graduate of Hunter College and Fordham University. You can follow him on Twitter @matthennessey.

  • APEppink

    Fat chance he’ll do that.

    • bosco49

      Recall Matthew 10:16:

      “Remember, I am sending you out to be like sheep among wolves; you must be wary, then, as serpents, and yet innocent as doves.”

      Some bishops forgot the ‘wise as serpents’ part.

  • Chris Cloutier

    CARDINAL DOLAN, YOU MUST STEP DOWN!

  • jacobhalo

    Again, The Vatican II goal was to bring the church into the modern world. Dolan is just following that goal.

    • James A. Sullivan

      Don’t you mean the goal of the Church should be to boot lick any and every perversion that floats around? If it’s “of today” it must be blessed? Thanks for helping us with the meaning of Vatican II

      • jacobhalo

        I was being sarcastic. I am truly disappointed with the church since Vatican II. The goal should had been to bring the modern world into the church, I haven’t been to a Novus Ordo Mass in over 10 years

        • James A. Sullivan

          I’m losing my sense of satire, apologies to you. I would say that Paul VI, JP II and Benedict XVI represented continuity and connection with the Church of ages past, even with the Novus Ordo. Now we have a pontiff who let’s others talk about his orthodoxy while he often tweets something else. Confutatis!

          • jacobhalo

            No problem. It is difficult to express sarcasm on a site.

          • jacobhalo

            Don’t forget, Paul VI was the pope during much of the Vatican Council and JPII and Benedict were members of the council, who agreed with much of the changes.

            • James A. Sullivan

              Both Paul VI and JPII made huge misjudgements on personnel: Bugnini in the former’s case and Maciel in JPII’s case. Maciel was a polymorphous Mexican sex-addict, probably worse than anyone in the Curia today or yesterday. But both pontiffs announced the Credo of the People of God – even the most controverted teachings – without compromise, despite carping by Tridentine liturgeeks.

    • Rock St. Elvis

      The real goal of V2 was to bring the modern world to the Church. By the time of V2, half the world was under the grip of atheistic communism, which had a lot of momentum behind it. V2 was to address such problems.

      V2 wasn’t about tamborines and burlap ‘n’ felt banners shouting “Rejoice!” Or the tearing up of communion rails or communion in the hand distributed by womyn. Or the embrace of every lifestyle choice no matter how morally inverted.

      But the hipper-than-thou hijacked the Church using “the spirit of Vatican II” as an excuse to make it mod. The expectation among the NYT crowd and like minded folks is that the Church is just slow in its “growth” but that it will come around eventually. And Dolan’s “bravo” to Michael Sam and inevitable declination to step down as Grand Marshal will continue to feed that perception.

      • jacobhalo

        That was not the real goal. You have it backward.

        • Rock St. Elvis

          Well. That settles it, then.

      • And they would have done the same things absent V2, just using different tactics.

      • jacobhalo

        One of the goals of Vatican II was “to adapt more suitably to the needs of our TIMES.” Another words, adapt to the modern world.

        • Rock St. Elvis

          To adapt more suitably to the NEEDS of our times.

          The rulers of half the modern world had virtually proscribed belief in God. The modern world needed an antidote to totalitarian hostility to God and his Church. Still does.

          • jacobhalo

            Then, who is adapting? the church or the modern world? The modern world didn’t adapt to the church. It was as you said, To adapt more suitable to the needs of our times [the modern world]

            • Rock St. Elvis

              You made an assertion about the PURPOSE of Vatican II, specifically that was to make the Church hip. That wasn’t the purpose at all. Not a single Vatican II document talks about turning the altar around, abolishing communion rails or communion on the tongue, incorporating tambourines and guitars, having clown masses, watering down morality, embracing sodomy, or any of that bilge.

              I don’t dispute that all that stuff happened after Vatican II. Post hoc ergo procter hoc is a logical fallacy.

          • jacobhalo

            Vatican II documents: Chapter V The Liturgical Year. #107. “The liturgical year is to be revised so that the traditional customs and discipline of the sacred seasons shall be preserved or restored to suit the conditions of the modern world.” Again, the goal of Vatican II was to bring the church into the modern world. The church made changes to suit the world, not vice-versa.

            • Rock St. Elvis

              So what? Nothing in that supposedly “gotcha” quote stands for the proposition that the goal of Vatican II is to water anything down. One can’t evangelize to or convert someone without getting his attention first.

    • RufusChoate

      Homosexuality is a pre-christian pagan recreational sexual practice. It is primitive and not modern is any rational sense unless you define toxic levels of puerile narcissism and self love as modern.

      • Rock St. Elvis

        The “marriage” of sodomy and egalitarianism is modern. The sodomites of antiquity might have enjoyed their dalliances but they would never have dreamed of them as “equal” to anything else.

        • RufusChoate

          I am unsure about your premise. I think today’s Homosexual activist inspired demand for marriage has more to do with spite and contempt for Christian ethics and Social order than the Pagans ever envisioned they want to corrupt the institution of Christian Marriage and the society simultaneously.

          Marriage was profoundly broken in the age of the Pagans and in no need of focus.

          • Rock St. Elvis

            I think that all they really want is to feel normal, and if it means destroying all standards, then so be it. Whether the destruction you describe is what today’s activists want, it is what they will bring.

            Egalitarianism was completely unheard of in antiquity. The language of egalitarianism is used today to normalize deviancy, thus all the talk of “rights” and “marriage equality.”

            • RufusChoate

              Ahh no, egalitarianism is as old as the Serpent in Eden… “You will be like God”… Aristotle covers the vicissitudes of democracy and the corrupting opinion of egalitarian spirit in democracies. The Homosexuals in the licentious Pagan culture were not threatened or opposed by Christianity until it became widespread and mores began to become Christ centered.

              The Homosexuals of today are the same toxically narcissist of the past and they need to destroy Christian culture to return to the Pagan licentiousness they crave. They don’t want acceptance they desire domination. Look at the vileness and intolerance of their comments on any forum about this issue. Power is their only goal.

              • Rock St. Elvis

                The egalitarianism critiqued by Aristotle would be unrecognizable as egalitarianism today. Radical egalitarianism and radical autonomy (two often clashing values, which result in the vileness and intolerance you note among today’s homosexual rights activists) are what drive virtually all public policy debates now. They have true political force in a way they never did at any time in human history.

                Was slavery abolished in ancient Greece? Was the franchise granted to all males and femals over 18? Were the unpropertied allowed a say in governance? Did anyone in ancient Greece or Rome ever push for homosexual marriage?

                No.

                In modern Western societies, not only has slavery been abolished and the franchise extended to virtually all adults in a true egalitarian spirit beyond what the ancients ever saw, the biggest sin one can be accused of now is “discrimination.” The latter has not been around since Eden. It hasn’t been around for a hundred years.

                Sodomy was tolerated in the ancient pagan world because the pagan ethic treated sex as entertainment and offspring as disposable, not because there was some egalitarian drive to treat sodomy the same as heterosexual sex. Orgies, abortions and infanticide were not uncommon, so why would pagans get worked up much about the “Greek vice?” Some might even sing its virtues, but none ever claimed it was equal to male-female relations.

                The Christian view that each person has inherent dignity is wholly inconsistent with a pagan sexual ethic, and as long as people generally followed it (which they did in the West for around 1600 years), there was no room for sodomy, even in societies more egalitarian than ancient Greece and Rome, such as the western world from the Enlightenment through most if not all the 20th Century.

                The pagan sexual ethic resurfaced in the last 80 years or so (actually before then among certain elites, but that’s when it really started to gain traction), at first slowly but eventually becoming the norm by the 1960s or 1970s. This reemergence would for most people just manifest itself in a live-and-let-live attitude about sodomy. But the radical egalitarianism of the modern age will not settle for anything less than de jure approbation, even to the point that one must not only state that a square is as good as a circle, but that a square actually is a circle. Anything less, and the world tells you that you are being oppressed. Combine this absurd and rarely examined worldview with sodomy and voila, the never-before-heard-of phenomenon of homosexual marriage becomes the law of the land.

  • lifeknight

    Not holding my breath.

  • JERD2

    The issue isn’t whether or not he marches in the parade; the issue is what he does with the opportunity. If before and after the parade he uses the opportunity to proclaim the teaching of the church regarding human sexuality in a spirit of love, more power to him.

    Christ sat down and ate with tax collectors and prostitutes; and he was criticized at the time for doing so. Sick people need a doctor; the well do not.

    • GG

      The bigotry of low expectations. Jesus ate with sinners to cal them to conversion. He did not parade with them. There is no comparison between these two items.

      • Thomas J. Hennigan

        The sinners with whom Jesus ate were not publicly and politically promoting their sinful way of life.

    • AcceptingReality

      Come on JERD2, do really believe he’s going to do or say anything that flies in the face of political correctness?

    • realrr

      Sitting down with them is one thing, leading them in a procession where they proudly proclaim their decision to go against God’s Divine Plan is another.

    • Atilla The Possum

      Jesus said to the woman who was caught in adultery: Go away and sin no more!
      Christ DID NOT SAY: Go back to the bed, young lady, and carry on as you were!
      What are the chances of Cardinal Dolan taking out a megaphone on 5th Avenue to shout at the top of his voice: ‘Repent! And believe the Good News!’ or ‘Turn away from your sinful, Sodomite ways and sin no more!’
      About as much chance of Obama doing the Hokey Cokey with Vladimir Putin!
      Dolan – get thee to St. Patrick’s Purgatory in Loch Derg and do a double shift of repentance, penance, fasting and renouncing the Devil, The Flesh and The World!

    • bonaventure

      Ask yourself what the Saint in your avatar picture would have done.

      • JERD2

        He would have given his life for another, even, I suppose, if the other had marched in the St. Patrick’s day parade.

        • GG

          Fr. Kolbe was a faithful son of the Church. He would never participate in such a scandal.

        • bonaventure

          St. Maximilian Kolbe would have indeed given his life for any man or woman victim of evil (and the willful marchers in Sodom’s parades are not the victims), but before he would have done so, he would have thoroughly unleashed his tongue (as he did in his lifetime) at the contributors to evil.

          And in this case, the homosexuals and the proud marchers = the Nazis, while the Christians who oppose it and are mocked for it = the concentration camp inmates.

    • Michele

      How about the scandal he causes by LEADING the Parade as Grand Marshall??? Does anyone care about scandal anymore??

  • ForChristAlone

    What would be required would be a hefty dose of humility for him to step down.

    • BillinJax

      Unfortunately, Humility is a lost concept in today’s art of self gratification.

      • Paddy

        Timothy Cardinal Weakling is either a fool or a tool. Boycott the dang parade because it now mocks a saint the Irish revere.

        • Peter

          How about both?

  • Countryman

    Dolans actions are just another in a long line of poor judgments by the hierarchy of the Catholic Church in America. The bishops are the same group that thought moving pedophile priests from one parish to another for decades was a good idea. They are just men. Flawed like the rest of us. We as the laity are obligated to push back. Where might the Church be now if we had asked where does it say remove the communion rails and change the liturgy? Instead we just shrugged our shoulders and quietly complained. I doubt that Dolan would be affected by a few letters questioning his poor judgment. However a 100,000 polite and to the point letters would give pause to even the blindest of fools.

    Cardinal’s Office

    1011 First Ave

    New York, NY 10022

    http://www.ny-archdiocese.org/departments

    • Buzz

      Thank you, Countryman, for giving us what the article did not: an ‘action option.’ Let’s take it!

      • Juxta

        My thanks to you also, Countryman. Mine will be a belated letter, but better late, than never.

    • Buzz

      My hand-written letter is signed and sealed and will go out in tomorrow’s mail. I’m sending from Europe, though. The rest of you – get busy now, because I can’t find any e-mail address for the Cardinal himself. A short note, quick and to the point. But DO IT.

      • Countryman

        99,998 to go!

  • ROB

    This freak show is the creation of Timothy Cardinal Dolan. Enjoy it Your Eminence, you’re the patron saint of a new gay pride parade.

    • John Albertson

      So the face of Christianity in New York is a chuckling prelate leading a beer-sodden parade while 21 Egyptians cry out the name of Jesus as they are martyred. I’ll go with the Egyptians.

      • APEppink

        Me too.

      • Laurence Charles Ringo

        Ouch,John.

      • Atilla The Possum

        It’s enough to make you sick, isn’t it?
        I wonder if they’ll be singing ‘When Irish Eyes Are Smiling’ – sure, the verse ‘all the world seems bright and gay’ will have a whole new darker, sinister meaning.
        Irish eyes will be silently crying, their tears mingling with the Christians in the Middle East, with the Christians who are losing their livelihoods because those lovely gays with money coming out of their ears are suing them for following their faith…
        And a scarlet-piped Prince of the Church is making a holy exhibition of himself like the Emperor with No Clothes…
        What a diabolical mess!

        • ROB

          Ah, boyo yer got the right of it. What John Hughes created, schools, hospitals, churches, is reduced by a clown in a faux tweed cap and soccer team scarf. We came over the lowest of the low, work the long quarter on the North River – three hours for the pay of two. The Church raised us up. Where does it take us now to a humiliation the KnowNothings would be ashamed of.

        • Mark Hardison

          But not because of the $57 million moved to some cemetery fund to shield it from sex abuse victims???? Gay folks in the parade is your priority?.

          • Baldwin04

            Why, do you want us to up the fund? Sounds like you want more of the same.

      • Paddy

        Copts over cop outs? it seems the Church is heading for heresy, itself.

    • I. Giveup

      By the way. Have you EVER seen a happy “gay” person? I think they call that an oxymoron. That’s half of what I’d call Timmy Dolan. I don’t know if he’ll resign his position with the parade, but I’m pretty sure he’s already resigned his position as a Catholic via Canon 915, among others, due to heresy. But he gets to keep wearing the neat outfit and pretending he’s a cardinal with an actual chance of going to heaven. I would advise others to pay no attention to the man in the newsboy hat.

      • Atilla The Possum

        In answer to your question – ”gay” people are (mostly) childish and immature playground bullies who turn on you if you disagree with them about ANYTHING. You could tell them that their pastel coloured bow tie doesn’t suit their star-studded wellies and they call you ”homophobe!” and ”bigot!”
        Why do you think they are being spiteful and vicious when they go whingeing to any lawyer who sees dollar/euro/pound signs above their heads rather than stand back to see how ridiculous and silly they really are … when some unsuspecting confectioner, florist, formal dress hire firm, jeweller, hotelier or photographer who is Christian – or who happens to strongly disagrees with same sex marriage anyway – doesn’t want their custom?
        What’s wrong with going to their favourite haunts in their Villages to spend their money? No, they just want to cause bother and continue to do so until you ”give in”.
        These are the tactics of jack-booted tinpot dictatorships … but, instead of jack boots, they are wearing next to nothing apart from (insert your observations here) … like the bloke who made a pig’s ear of presenting the Oscars!
        As for Dolan, if he was anything other than a Cardinal with a guaranteed income and a roof over his head with no job insecurity – he’d be fired as incompetent.
        On what I’ve read when it comes to closing more parishes in his Archdiocese than soft Mick, Dolan’s attitude is that he doesn’t give ”one”. He just acts like Hitler playing tiddlywinks in his bunker whilst 6 million suffer and die in the concentration camps!
        It just one of those things to him… and those churches that keep up the sacrilege, profanity and filth of ”gay masses” appear not to be on his chopping board!
        Bravo, Dolan! You’re soul won’t need matches and firelighters where it’s going if YOU DON’T WAKE UP!

    • BillinJax

      Hard to believe this is the same guy who wants to desperately hang on to the holy body of Fulton Sheen as if it were a sacred possession of his alone. But then, maybe not if you want it both ways and believes he is the proprietor of Catholic faith and values unto himself for himself.

  • ConofChi

    Message of Garabandal 18th June 1965 “……Many cardinals many bishops and many priests are on the road to
    perdition and are taking many souls with them. Less and less importance
    is being given to the Eucharist. You should turn the wrath of God away
    from yourselves by your efforts. If you ask His forgiveness with sincere
    hearts, He will pardon you. I, your mother, through the intercession of
    Saint Michael the Archangel, ask you to amend your lives…….”

    • Minnesota Mary

      This is nothing we didn’t know already, even back in 1965. Wasn’t it St.John Chrysostom who said, “The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishops.”? Bad clergy have been a problem for the Church since the first century.

  • RufusChoate

    No kidding but seriously when did Cardinal Dolan demonstrate a single fibre of courage. in proclaiming the Gospel?

    One Bishop, a former Lord Chancellor and handful of Monks from all of the Bishops, Priests and Clerics of Tudor’s England were martyred for Tudor’s apostasy.

    Like them Dolan is with the evil majority.

    • Bravo.

    • accelerator

      Dolan is copying Francis example. Can’t blame the Cardinals for following the Pope’s lead!

      • sixlittlerabbits

        Dolan has been acting this way ever since he came to the Archdiocese of New York–four years before Jorge Bergoglio became Bishop of Rome. Dolan’s former constituents in Wisconsin probably witnessed similar behavior by him.

        • Atilla The Possum

          There exists a photo of said Cardinal Dolan wearing a triangle of cheese on his head … we was standing at the ambo wearing vestments at the same time, so it was clear to discern from the picture that he wasn’t modelling vestments and the latest designs in mitres for London Fashion Week… if you get my drift!

  • mortimer zilch

    he’s too sloshed to know, or care. He needs to step down from the episcopacy altogether. But do you think that will happen EITHER?

  • AcceptingReality

    I do admire Cardinal Dolan for his personable nature. Wish I had that kind of charisma! I also wish I knew him well enough to know, for sure, how much of the public perception of him is real or a product of media coverage. The perception projected through media is of died in the wool liberal who places political correctness, his personal popularity first. Hope he does step down from the parade for the expressed reason that pro-life groups have been summarily excluded.

    • John Albertson

      Buffoonery is not charism. Obviously the political sharks in NY who don’t take Dolan seriously know that. And the laity now have to do their best to pretend that Dolan is just their slightly crazy uncle in the attic – but the problem is that he is not in the attic. Even before he came to New York he provoked “admiratio” by such antics during Mass. This month he paraded through Saint Patrick’s cathedral under a twirling African chieftain’s umbrella. These past few New Years have seen an uninterrupted succession of fat man jokes and beer jokes from the pulpit. Meanwhile the Church in New York is in meltdown. -Our beloved Pope Benedict made that appointment, and certainly must regret it among other things.

    • Hugh Lunn

      Charisma is a luminosity of personality that draws people towards a leader. Dolan lacks any charima. He is not drawing anyone towards the Truth of Roman
      Catholicism. He is a vaudevillian performer who plays to the peanut
      gallery with his absurdist antics and leaves the Faith in the green
      room.

    • “Wish I had that kind of charisma! ”
      That’s not charisma. It might be amiability, sociability, but it isn’t charisma. Charismatic people inspire and lead.

  • JourneyForTruth

    The Boy Scouts went the same way only wanting to include GLBT but not let them promote the bad behavior however by just allowing a banner of pride that promotes the behavior. Just does not work.

    • Scott W.

      I would say it’s the old adage about the camel’s nose in the tent, but in the case of allowing LGBTQWERTY in the parade it seems more like letting the backside of the camel in the tent and the camel then proceeds to defecate on everyone.

    • Have you heard how the membership in the BSA is going?

      • JourneyForTruth

        No but Trail life usa scouts is the organization that has their morals together. Boys will not learn that Homosexual behavior is tolerable.

        http://www.traillifeusa.com/2013/09/12/new-organization-offers-alternative-boy-scouts/

        • Jude

          The Catholic option is the Catholic Troops of St. George.

          • Whatever its merits might be, the Troops of St. George is not scouting. It is a fraternal organization focused on father-son camping.

        • Trail Life USA is really a Protestant organization.

          • JourneyForTruth

            True but at least they don’t allow gays, besides BSA was a protestant organization really.

            • If the BSA is or was a Protestant organization, then what is to keep the same thing from happening to Trail Life USA that happened to the BSA?

              • JourneyForTruth

                Nothing will stop that from happening except being true to their doctrines. BSA Changed what Baden Powell set up and wanted. BSA Swayed to popular opinion to get into schools which were not letting them recruit there. It’s a numbers game and Jesus never played by the numbers.

                • Couple things. One, it’s hard to stay true to doctrines that can change. The stability offered by the Catholic Church does not exist in Protestant ecclesial communities. Two, the BSA strayed from Lord Baden-Powell’s vision almost immediately in having professionals take over volunteer roles.

      • Jude

        They are very careful to not release the numbers in terms of how many have left since the membership change. They keep it spread out over a longer time period. The next change being discussed: dropping the word “reverent.”

      • bonaventure

        And now, some businesses are pulling away all their remaining contributions (ex.: AT&T) because apparently the BSA haven’t gone far enough in accommodating the sodomites.

        I hope the BSA goes down and never picks itself up again. Trail Life (or other organizations) will fill in the void.

        • ForChristAlone

          My son’s parish threw out the Boy Scouts and adopted Trail Life. My son is now one of the leaders and they have more boys than ever.

  • Asmondius

    He offered the alligator a hand, erroneously thinking that would placate it without jeopardizing the entire body.
    .
    Now it is chewing northward.

  • M.J.A.

    Would this be similar to a hypothetical situation , in which advocates for houses of prostitution and worship of Asherah , the false goddess that the enemy had introduced, to confuse and bring fear into the faithful to this day about His Mother , and advocates for a house dedicated to promoting the worship of Molech of child sacrifice wants to join the procession into Jerusalem, on Palm Sunday ..and The Lord tell them ( what is hard to judge , in the true meaning of that word here is , if He would have let them join , with the intent to exorcise and see them delivered and sitting in their right minds at His Feet at the temple )
    or the more likely scenario , in this case, of scandal, that there is not need for repentance and deliverance – even denying the possibility of same , almost like a curse ;
    if used for scandal, does it bring undue debts , even down to all who are under such authority and situations, thus being robbed off their God intended power and graces ….

    Such scenarios are what we hear from , anymore , in those in Family Healing ministries ..seemingly having discerned such patterns from careful study of biblical truths !

    We see how the seeming innocent promotion of Bingo and thus letting church properties to be used to promote the idol and demon of greed , might be what has led to this cancer destroying many families and even came in, right into the heart of The Church , in the form of demonic greed of sexual abuse; the disdain for life also may be a form of related greed !
    That scene where, in The Old Testament , there is mention of satan rising up against David , as God’s wrath – because David was supposedly trying to count how many might be available, to be used for forced labor , to build the temple ( where as God would have wanted that HIs children do so, in the freedom and dignity that is their birthright ) ; the plague that followed decimated thousands !

    Right under our eyes even , are the divided Churches, having likely entered into unholy pacts may be centuries before, with its attendant sequelae playing out in many ways – still struggling to get from under same, by the easy means extended by The Church , of accepting with trust ,God given protection , in the Dogma of Papal Infallibilty and the Marian Dogmas , thus to be of oneness in mind and heart with The Bride and The Mother !
    Freedom, to be more and more conformed to the image , dignity and holiness and into all the holy loving relationships that God thus extends, to His children, in The Son – not slavery to fallen passions and its masters – hope debates such as this help many to look deep and wide and take on the spiritual combat ,thus to repent and be free from what is not of God , which is what the The Holy Father is also calling us to !
    St.Patrick and Bl.Mother take over the ribbon of our lives and relationships , with all its knots , from generations past as well and free us , to live for The Lord !

  • GG

    ***“[T]he committee’s decision allows a group to publicize its identity,
    not promote actions contrary to the values of the Church that are such
    an essential part of Irish culture,” he wrote in his weekly column. “I
    have been assured that the new group marching is not promoting an agenda
    contrary to Church teaching, but simply identifying themselves as ‘Gay
    people of Irish ancestry.’”***

    That is objectively sinful in and of itself. The point of identifying one’s self with a deviant desire in such a way is to normalize it and celebrate it. That is not consistent with Church teaching or right reason.

    Are we to understand that a Cardinal thinks promoting this “identity” is not contrary to the catechism? Huh? Wow.

    • ***“[T]he committee’s decision allows a group to publicize its identity, not promote actions contrary to the values of the Church that are such an essential part of Irish culture,”

      And the winner of the annual Cardinal Wolsey award for creativity in conforming the Church to the world goes to….

      • ROB

        Beg pardon DE, but Wolsey (who for his many faults considered himself acting entirely within the Catholic Church) was fully familiar with the fate of those who opposed the King, cf More and Fisher. His Eminence Timothy D. Is under no such compulsion. He has other motives, fear of the axe not among them. What might they be, a round of lukewarm applause at the Friendly Sons dinner, a muffled cheer at the NYAC or the Westchester CC or the donations coming his way? Follow the money.

        • Selling out is selling out, whether the price is gold or your head.

          • Paddy

            30 pieces of silver work, too. BOYCOTT!

        • sixlittlerabbits

          How perceptive of you, ROB. Cardinal Dolan’s most recent column, ironically called “Lord, to Whom Shall We Go?” in the February 19, 2015 issue of “Catholic New York” gives the Cardinal’s thoughts on the “duty” of almsgiving “to the point of sacrifice.” This New Yorker has kept money in pocket–or donated to worthy Catholic causes– for years and is not persuaded to change.

        • Atilla The Possum

          Cardinal Wolsey died before he even got a sniff of the chopping block.

    • JourneyForTruth

      excellent point

      • GG

        I have not heard anyone publicly correct the Cardinal on this matter. He is basically parsing Church teaching, in an incorrect way, and claiming marching as a “gay” rights group is consistent with our Lord’s will. Is this how moral theology is taught in seminary now?

    • Paddy

      Will there be an Irish Burglars’ or Irish Adulterers Float, too?

  • hssuzanne

    This is flatly embarassing, if I am to be honest. It is Lent after all. If Cardinal Dolan refuses to be humble and step down, at least he is giving the Catholic world a lot of things to explain to those who turn to us and question his antics and half hearted, bumbling explanations.

    Thanks for the penances, Cardinal!

  • s;vbkr0boc,klos;

    ‘Gay Rights’ reminds me of the plague of pet pythons loose in the everglades. It soon dominates the entire ‘ecosystem’ of ideas.

    • Guest

      Yes..our ideas are tolerated as long as we agree with them…

  • How I miss Cardinal O’Connor. When will Cardinal Dolan learn that if we attempt to be all things to all people we lose everything. Our Bishops need to be priests not politicians.

    • Cardinal OI’Connor was my former Bishop. We gathered he was a man destined for bigger or better things, unfortunately, he only got bigger things.

  • FrankW

    I hope I’m wrong about this, but Cardinal Dolan seems to be placing too much emphasis on not offending certain groups which happen to oppose Church teachings, and not enough emphasis on his current post as the leader of the archdiocese of New York.

    Archbishops should not be afraid of bad press and negative publicity. They should already know this is coming whenever they stand up for the truth. The world will hate them, just as the world hated Christ. We need archbishops with the courage to take the heat.

  • hombre111

    Sigh. Another anti-gay rant from Crisis. Cardinal Dolan is a wise old fox who knows when he can do more harm than good. The Catechism says treat gays with dignity and respect. Resigning over the presence of one group representing gays would cross that line. Enjoy St. Paddy’s day. Have some green beer.

    • Objectivetruth

      “Catechism says treat gays with dignity and respect. ”

      Wrong.

      The Catechism says “homosexuals” should be treated with dignity, not “gays.” There is a difference. Homosexuals have the disordered tendency towards living out the sin, the gay lifestyle, but don’t necessarily fall for the temptation. “Gays” live out the sin of homosexuality.

      • maineman

        Not to mention that assisting and implicitly blessing someone while they humiliate and desecrate themselves is hardly treating them with dignity.

        • Objectivetruth

          I’m guessing Dolan will give a traditional blessing before the parade, of all the marchers. Tacitly giving Catholic approval to the “gay” marchers.

    • RufusChoate

      The proper term is homosexual. Gay is a self assigned political and sexual identity not a valid description. The Catechism like all documents of the Church doesn’t use the term “gay”.

      Dolan’s concept of of morality in treating people with chronic homosexual acts in violation of his religious vows (Weakland) along with embezzlement of over four hundred thousand dollars from his Archdiocese is to allow them to continue to live in the Archbishop’s mansion as an honored guest even when Rembert Weakland’s own Abbey refuses to allow him to return because the scandal involving many of the men he hand picked.

      • ForChristAlone

        I thought Rembert was at a monastery in NJ

        • RufusChoate

          He was in Milwaukee when Dolan was there and given the royal treatment by Dolan. He attempted to return to his original Abbey in Latrobe, Pennsylvania and was except there until a scandal broke out with one of his proteges there of an undisclosed nature.

    • John Albertson

      Not a fox. A hen.

    • GG

      Such nonsense. There is no virtue in affirming disordered desires. The CCC does not teach anyone to affirm an identity which is contrary to nature. Diabolic confusion.

      • hombre111

        Respect is different from affirm. Go read the Catechism. And have some of that green beer.

        • GG

          It does not say to respect identities that are contrary to the good. Go read the CCC and accept it for a change. We respect persons, not propaganda.

          • hombre111

            A person who understands that he is a homosexual understands that it is part of his identity, even as I realized that being a hetero is part of my identity. You can do like a recent Crisis article did, and pretend we are only using adjectives, but I am reminded several times a day within myself that I am a heterosexual being.

    • ForChristAlone

      predictably on the wrong side of every issue here…please don’t think we’re suffering your presence here because we need it.

      • hombre111

        I think Crisis endures my presence as a bit of technicolor added to an otherwise monochrome landscape.

    • ROB

      My dear Hombre, I assume you have little knowledge of the archdiocese of New York and it’s patron saint Patrick. It was founded when KnowNothings intended to drive Irish Catholics into the sea. Famously it’s Archbishop threatened to turn the city into a second Moscow should a church or convent be burned. None was. The Church took the illiterate, the drunken and the dissolute from the gutter and gave them schools, orphanages, foundling hospitals, etc, etc. Sinful as we were we were part and parcel of the Church. Say what, Solidarity? The parade, the Sixty Ninth (Bull Run, Malvern Hill, Antietam, Fredricksberg, Gettysberg, Meuse Argonne – get the picture) in the van, hundreds of cops, firemen, nurses, high schools, colleges, Irish Counties with saints, Plunkett, O’Toole on their banners, all bending the knee outside, you got it, Saint Patrick’s Cathedral to their Catholic faith. Green beer? Do they serve it on Christopher Street? Wanna bet it will be a tad more than one white collar group forcing their way in? Enjoy the freak show.

      • hombre111

        Thanks for a great historical and culturul summary. But times do change, it seems to me, and the Catholic Church in New York is no longer fighting for its life, and the parade–judging from this distance at least–has become more than a religious event. I think the Cardinal is right. Agree with their lifestyle or not, it is wise to show some respect to those who have a much more recent history of abuse and persecution.

  • Cathy

    Cardinal O’Connor

  • Cathy

    Cardinal O’Connor fought the LGBT efforts to join the parade for many, many years! Just as the US Supreme Court readies to rule on homosexual “marriage” the St. Patrick’s Day Parade (which honors a Catholic saint) allows NBC Universal Out, which advocates for homosexual “marriage” to march along with Catholic high school bands! Of course, many politicians and judges will be smiling, but Catholics who watch the parade world-wide will be scandalized and confused. No doubt the media covering the parade will erroneously tout how amazing it is to see the Catholic Church “changing” its views! This requires the intervention of the Holy Father, if Cardinal Dolan or the Ancient Order of Hibernians do not stop this bad example. At a minimum the Cardinal must step down! Let us pray that St. Patrick intercedes to stop this debacle!

    • sixlittlerabbits

      You are so right, and the courts ruled in Cardinal O’Connor’s favor. Thus, complicity with the “gay” agenda had to be obtained–and Dolan provided it, like a good Quisling to the “queers” (the term of the Irish militants. themselves).

  • BXVI

    Some of our bishops need to face up to the reality of the anti-Christian culture we live in. They seem to think that by giving a little they can demonstrate their goodwill and make peace. Pope Francis seems to be chief among them at the moment. That is not the way it works. The way it works is this: Give an inch, and they will use the breach to drive a stake through your heart and boot-stomp your face as you lie dying in the street. The naivete is astounding.

  • William LaSala

    I’m Catholic but not Irish but I’m still thoroughly saddened and disgusted with the committee and the cardinal. All the non”gay” groups marching should boycott.

    • John O’Neill

      I am Irish, my parents actually came over on the boat. And I will never participate in any Americanized St. Patrick’s day celebration which celebrates drunkenness, sodomy and gluttony. Apparently Dolan the Francis cardinal has no such misgivings.

      • Stay clear of Scranton PA.

        • tom

          Dolan’s operation across NYS supports Cuomo’s “Women’s Equality Act”, too. They’re all commies.

      • RufusChoate

        I am several generations removed from your experience but my Family was never much given to the celebration of Saint Patrick’s day since it is in the middle of Lent and we are a tad on the rigorous side and my Great Grandfather was known to say “That Patrick would prefer a good Lent over a party.”

        • Paddy

          TOO MANY OF THE IRISH CLERGY MUST HAVE ANCESTORS WHO CAME OVER WITH THE SNAKES PATRICK DROVE OUT.
          There’s something wrong with everything they say and do.

          • Atilla The Possum

            There are still snakes in the Irish grass in the old country… some of them members of that spitting dummy set-up known as the Association of Catholic Priests.

  • Jl

    Dolan, Humble, I think not!! You need to step down.

  • Ben

    This is shameful. Do none of you remember 1 Corinthians when Paul says “If I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love(charity), I am nothing?” Or when he says “So faith, hope, love(charity) abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love(charity)?” You negate everything you have to say about the issue when you say it uncharitably, for nobody can claim to speak on behalf of God’s Church and her leaders without charity. As an aside, it seems ironic to me that some of you would criticize anyone’s humility (seems self-defeating, doesn’t it?), but especially criticize a cardinal who is easily seen to be a very humble man of God; if you think you can seriously make a claim to be more prudent in this situation than Cardinal Dolan, without knowing hardly anything of the different factors that have led to his decision in prudence, then I think you have a serious beam in your eye that you should see to before you criticize from afar the twig in Cardinal Dolan’s.

    • GG

      There is no love in scandal or affirming what is unnatural. Love and truth must be together.

      • Ben

        You’re correct in saying that love and truth must be together! How can all of you commenters claim to be speaking truth if you do so without love? I’m not saying the Cardinal is right or wrong, I’m just saying that none of us know the full situation, and he’s a prudent man, why can’t we trust his judgment? If you criticize him without love, your words are meaningless; that’s according to St. Paul, but I’m guessing soon enough you’ll all be criticizing him because he needed to be more humble.

        • ROB

          And what Ben would lead His Eminence to abandon a long standing constitutional right to associate in a parade dedicated to the patron of Saint Patrick’s Archdiocese only with groups who do not publicly repudiate (to put it mildly) the very teachings of that self same Archdiocese? What full situation? The parade doesn’t need NBC or Guiness or Sam Adams. Thousands march, millions watch. Tell me, please, what prudence, what judgement allows those who would grind you into the dust to march in your parade?

        • squishee

          I am curious to know how you assume the commenters have no love? Could it be a revelation written on the beam that fills your own eye?

          • GG

            Stop being so logical and intelligent. It messes up the narrative.

        • GG

          We do know the full situation. A homosexual propagandist group is marching and the Cardinal claims “identity” is no problem. That information is enough to draw proper moral conclusions. There is nothing unloving about criticizing such a wrong-headed decision.

  • Objectivetruth

    “allow additional Irish LGBT advocacy organizations to march in this year’s parade.”

    Dear Lord!! There’s more than one group? How many Irish gay groups are there?

  • fredx2

    If you all had any sense, you would be denouncing NBC for forcing the committee to allow gay groups into the parade. Previously, the parade was non-political, and could be just fun for all. Now, NBC has insisted that it contain political groups – to be more precise, the political groups that NBC wants to push. What right has NBC to do that? They should be the ones you are all writing letters to.

    • GG

      That is what places like NBC does. Is this news? Just because they push it does not mean we participate with it.

      • drm

        Correct, GG. Fred x2, NBC claims to have the “right” to push their agenda because they televise the parade. Dangerous that we depend so much on fewer media outlets run by conglomerates. I realize this is hindsight, but worth considering: Perhaps Cardinal Dolan should have said ‘No’ to NBC’s media-blackmail and gone forward with the parade on the Church’s terms–even if it meant no TELEVISED parade. (Could that still happen?) Then, publicize that fact, big time, and let the fallout from those potential viewers hit on NBC. It might have meant no televised parade this year (or perhaps ever again), or some other media outlet might have come forward. It might have meant fewer viewers if televised on cable, but the Church could have taken that stand and kept politics out of THEIR parade.

    • I’m sorry how does NBC get to dictate a parade – even if they have this power- then you quit- you don’t materially cooperate with evil.

  • donna

    cardinal Dolan is a disgrace. It the elephant in room but he projects a very questionable persona and frankly appears more concerned about his social life in NYC and DC than correctly conveying accurate Church teaching. He should be removed and sent to a monastery preferably where silence is rule of order.

    • Atilla The Possum

      … and poverty … and obedience!

  • Captain America

    This is really just a New York issue. I live in the midwest. This story gets much more play than it deserves since there are national media outlets with large NY operations.

    Catholics needed to fight the homosexual activists a long, long time ago, and present the truth. We didn’t, chiefly since we were afraid of being called mean, and now society around us gets damaged.

  • “Timothy Cardinal Dolan has been played for a sucker by the organizers of the 2015 New York City St. Patrick’s Day parade.”

    It’s not the first time.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/290661/archbishop-dolan-betrayed-obama-patrick-brennan

    • somebigguy

      Agreed.

      • I am by profession an accountant and a former auditor
        One of the first things you learn about accepting the financial statements of some enterprise, is to never accept an audit engagement where the integrity of the management that issues those statements is suspect, because you don’t have the time, knowledge or creativity to imagine the ways they’ll cook the books, let alone find the dirty deeds.

        The naiveté exhibited by Dolan in accepting the assurances of Obama is quite frankly, appalling.

  • Jamodus

    Beware of the leaven of Cardinal Dolan; by their fruits…

  • Aliquantillus

    Perhaps the biggest problem for Dolan is that stepping down invokes the impression that he is not fully behind the pro gay agenda of His Mercifulness the Pope. Francis would have no scruples if he were the Grand Marshal and would make the parade a big occasion for proclaiming his ugly “compassion”. So why should Dolan step down?

  • Cimarron Slim

    Sometimes I get the impression that Cardinal Dolan is more concerned with his place in the NY social scene, a media darling and political personality than a sober minded leader of Catholics in NY and America. Yes, he needs to make a statement by his actions and step down and yes, he can and should deal with the inevitable media and gay heat that will ensue. I.e.. that we love the sinner (can we say that anymore?) while hating the sin.

    • Atilla The Possum

      You are spot on. He would even turn up at the Changing of the Light Bulb …

  • somebigguy

    “I have been assured that the new group marching is not promoting an agenda contrary to Church teaching, but simply identifying themselves as ‘Gay people of Irish ancestry.’”

    Much to the disappointment and chagrin of the faithful, Dolan proves himself a mere equivocator. At a time when fearless shepherding of the flock and unquestioned loyalty to the Magisterium is required, Dolan fails us all– Catholic and hedonist, alike. He looks the buffoon to both.

  • realrr

    Christ was all inclusive, he loved sinners and righteous
    people alike. That said, He NEVER encouraged or supported people in their sin
    (doing things outside of God’s Will and Plan). It’s alright to allow
    homosexuals to march, they are God’s precious children. But, it’s not alright
    for them to hold a banner referencing their sexual orientation or to ban
    pro-lifers from marching. Perhaps pro-lifers would be allowed to march if their
    banner says “LIFE LOVING HETEROSEXUALS OF NEW YORK” ??

    Of course, I’m being facetious– let’s not go that route. I agree with Laura
    Ingraham– this parade is not the place to advertise or “identify” sexual orientation. References to this of any kind ought to be banned. Parents want to bring their children to relax and enjoy, not have people’s sexual preference broadcast in their face- TMI!

    If the parade organizers dig their heels in and allow it, it would be the right thing for Cardinal Dolan to graciously step down. Perhaps now the Mayor will want to lead? I say let him do it– “render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s; and to God, the things
    that are God’s.” The parade is no longer God’s.

    • somebigguy

      All should read Daniel Mattson’s “The Strange Notion of “Gay Celibacy” which appeared here on January 26th. Thanks again, Dan!

  • Edward Delahoussaye

    Cardinal Dolan is to proud to step down,he needs more humility.

  • ForChristAlone

    I hear that Dolan is such a charismatic leader in the New York Archdiocese that their seminary at Dunwoodie is bursting at the seams with new vocations. They are even doing a fundraising appeal to start a building program to expand the seminary because they do not have enough rooms to house the new guys.

    • John Albertson

      Nonsense. Dunwoodie merged with the Long Island seminary (dioceses of Brooklyn and Rockville Centre) but even so, New York has per capita one of the lowest vocation rates in the country. Seminarians rattle around in that half empty building.
      If you believe what you hear, I’ve got a great deal for you if you’d like to buy the Brooklyn Bridge.

      • ForChristAlone

        I was joshing to make a point.

        I think the Dominicans probably have more men studying for the priesthood than the New York Archdiocese, Brooklyn and Rockville Centre dioceses combined. You know, you will know them by their fruits (no pun intended).

  • Pat

    http://www.ancienttexts.org/library/celtic/ctexts/p03.html
    The powerful and unedited “Breastplate of St. Patrick” also known as “The Deer’s Cry”.

  • Dan

    Very well written article.
    I am extremely disappointed with the behavior I see/hear from Cdl Dolan.
    He attacks Fr. Pavone when he should be praying outside the abortion clinics with him.
    Makes me think of the 3rd temptation of Christ and Dolan has sold out for the things of this world. We need those in prominent church positions to be Witnesses to the Truth and not politicians, we already have too many of those.
    Pray for our Priests and Bishops!

  • Patrick

    The St. Patrick’s Day Parade in NYC is not a Church-based activity! Everybody knows this, from the street sweepers to the float designers to the organizers. Cardinal Dolan celebrates Mass in front of sinners. Nobody is asking him to step down from the altar just because he leads sinners to Christ!

    Cardinal Dolan is a natural born leader, filled with joy. If he can lead sinners at Mass, he can lead them as the Grand Marshall of a parade that just happens to coincide with the feast day of an Irish saint. He’s a Cardinal. You’re a blogger. Shut up. Lead, follow, or get out of the way. Let him lead. You step down.

    • “You’re a blogger. Shut up. ”

      And you are….??? Imperial censor?

      “Let him lead.”

      There’s reason Christ likened us to sheep, and not lemmings.

      Are you employed by the NY Archdiocese or just a clericalist?

      • ForChristAlone

        He’s in the parade…on a float, I think….you know, the pink float….

    • Joseph J. Pippet

      JMJ Patrick. Actually Christ leads sinners to the Father, through the person of the priest and cardinals and bishops, etc. (not the way you think) You seem to forget that the Holy Mass is for “Repenting sinners”, Not for those who have no desire for forgiveness! Frolicking paraders who Flaunt their Sinfulness in the eyes of Jesus are being led by the Cardinal, so he gives grave Scandal. All Catholics should stay home and turn the TV off during the parade of those Unrepentent sinners, if you don’t than you to are sinful in your actions1 Respectfully with Love, Joseph J. Pippet… N. Cape May, N.J.

    • Seamrog

      “….a parade that just happens to coincide with the feast day of an Irish saint.”

      What a silly statement this is. Do you actually believe this?

      Do you have any understanding of the history of the St. Patrick’s Day Parade, or of St. Patrick?

      Are you purposefully ignorant of this history so you can run around with the rest of the drunks and not feel shame?

      Do you suffer from same-sex attraction and are encouraged that one of the few remaining public reminders that homosexual behaviors are gravely sinful is being swept under the rug?

      In leading this parade, Cardinal Dolan will not be leading sinners to Christ. He will be leading sinners in opposition to Christ.

      It is a tremendously significant distinction.

    • GG

      This is the most simple minded and absurd comment posted so far today.

    • ROB

      Sorry Pat, a simple shake of the red hatted head would have sent the parade committee out the door with their tails between their legs if that was what the Powerhouse wanted. No doubt what you say is true, a leader filled with joy, the parade once a demonstration of Catholic power now merely coincidental to the patron Saint of the Archdiocese. That’s where we are led to, joyfully or not.

      • John Albertson

        The Powerhouse ceased being a powerhouse after Spellman. The Powerhouse now is a Doghouse.

        • ROB

          John, I think your timing is off by the O’Connor years but the end result is the same. Dog house or some other more earthy house? There are historical precedents.

  • Jacqueleen

    Cardinal Dolan should be speaking out as to why the Committee said no to the Pro Life group that it was too late for them to sign up but is considering other LGBT groups? I hope every straight Irishman and woman refuse to march….Let the gays go it alone and call it, “THE GAY LEPRECHAUN CHARADE.” Irish friends, stay home and honor St. Patrick who was a great evangelist converting an entire country from paganism and witchcraft. St.Patrick will not be happy with the undoings if you don’t.

  • James Scott

    The Cardinal needs to quit the Parade. The fact the gay fascists aren’t satisfied with marching under the banner “Out NBC” (which even I would not object too) is a shame not too mention snubbing pro-life Catholic groups. These people are vicious anti-Catholic bigots who hate Catholicism.

    I am wearing orange on St Patrick’s day or Plaid. It is no longer about St Patrick the Apostle to Ireland.

    • ROB

      Out NBC will be the only banner, ya think? Seen the demonstrations on Fifth Avenue? West Side Famine Irish, ain’t got the option of Orange or plaid. Cheese Louise, what color were they hangin men and wimmen for wearing? And what specifically did that color signify? A plot of earth when taking the soup could keep you alive? Yep Jamie, there it is, nothing to do with anything on God’s good earth than being Catholic.

  • Brick

    Today’s vile conservative “Catholicism” on display in this comment thread! Rushing to fill the void Fred Phelps left?

    • ForChristAlone

      who?

    • Guest

      Said the fascist.

    • RufusChoate

      How odd that you put articulation of the perennial teaching of the Church by serious Catholic adults in quotes. Try reading Saint Peter Damian-

      11th Century.

      “Truly, this vice is never to be compared with any other vice because it surpasses the enormity of all vices.… It defiles everything, stains everything, pollutes everything. And as for itself, it permits nothing pure, nothing clean, nothing other than filth.…

      “The miserable flesh burns with the heat of lust; the cold mind trembles with the rancor of suspicion; and in the heart of the miserable man chaos boils like Tartarus [Hell]…. In fact, after this most poisonous serpent once sinks its fangs into the unhappy soul, sense is snatched away, memory is borne off, the sharpness of the mind is obscured. It becomes unmindful of God and even forgetful of itself. This plague undermines the foundation of faith, weakens the strength of hope, destroys the bond of charity; it takes away justice, subverts fortitude, banishes temperance, blunts the keenness of prudence.

      “And what more should I say since it expels the whole host of the virtues from the chamber of the human heart and introduces every barbarous vice as if the bolts of the doors were pulled out.”

      Doctor of the Church.

      Saint Peter Canisius, SJ

      “As the Sacred Scripture says, the Sodomites were wicked and exceedingly sinful. Saint Peter and Saint Paul condemn this nefarious and depraved sin. In fact, the Scripture denounces this enormous indecency thus: ‘The scandal of Sodomites and Gomorrhans has multiplied and their sins have become grave beyond measure.’ So the angels said to just Lot, who totally abhorred the depravity of the Sodomites: ‘Let us leave this city….’ Holy Scripture does not fail to mention the causes that led the Sodomites, and can also lead others, to this most grievous sin. In fact, in Ezechiel we read: ‘Behold this was the iniquity of Sodom: pride, fullness of bread, and abundance, and the idleness of her, and of her daughters: and they did not put forth their hand to the needy, and the poor. And they were lifted up, and committed abominations before me; and I took them away as thou hast seen’ (Ezech. 16: 49-50). Those unashamed of violating divine and natural law are slaves of this never sufficiently execrated depravity.””

      Doctor of the Church.

      Weird huh?

    • thebigdog

      It’s a coincidence that your parents named you after what you would grow up to be as thick as.

  • Title Correction:

    “Cardinal Dolan Must Step Down And Return to Lay Status”

  • AugustineThomas

    I clasp unto my heart this day
    the shielding strength of the Trinity,
    by calling on its mystic Name,
    the Three in One, the One in Three;
    Through whom all nature was created,
    Eternal Father, Spirit, Word:
    I praise Thee, God of my Salvation,
    Salvation won by Christ the Lord.

    I clasp unto my heart this day
    with steadfast faith,
    our Lord made man,
    And Him baptized in Jordan’s flood,
    His Cross of death, Salvation’s plan;
    His rising from th’enclosing tomb,
    His bright ascent to Heaven’s way,
    His coming on the day of doom,
    I clasp unto my heart this day.

    I clasp unto my heart this day
    the leadership of God’s strong hand,
    His eye to watch, his strength my stay,
    His ears to hear and understand;
    The truths God wills that I should teach,
    His guidance sure, His shielding arm,
    The word of God which I should preach,
    the angels guarding me from harm.

    Against the spell of Satan’s wiles;
    against all lying heresy;
    against all action which defiles;
    against all crass idolatry;
    Against all pride of earthly state,
    against Hell’s pain and bondage stern;
    Against that endless fiery fate,
    protect me, Christ, till Thy return.

    • Atilla The Possum

      AMEN!

  • Paul

    Yet another retreat by the Catholic church in the USA from the onslaught & tirade of politicizing of the cause of the LGBT .

  • jacobum

    “Humilty” and “Cdl Dolan” in the same sentence defines “oxymoron”. Given that he followed Weakland in Wisconson his actions in NY are closer to him albeit with more laughter, as in laughing at the gullible faithful. A disgraceful exhibition of shameless, classless and clueless.

    • ForChristAlone

      He didn’t just follow Weakland in Milwaukee, he kept him on to administer the Sacrament of Confirmation – that’s after he resigned because of having stolen $400,000 to his male lover in hush money. The episcopacy in the US in some quarters has become a good ole boys network. They take care of their own.

      • jacobum

        Thanks for sharing. Was not aware of that. Not surprised after watching Dolan in NY and USCCB.

  • Maggie

    He won’t; he does not have the courage.

  • conservative5

    Does anyone really think Cardinal Dolan has the spiritual integrity to step down and denounce those who mock the sanctity of marriage between a man and a woman?

  • ForChristAlone

    I say Dolan ought to step down as Grand Marshall and that he be replaced by Rembert Weakland at the head of the parade.

  • Don Lond

    The very idea that it is licit to disgrace and humiliate the Church, under the guise of equal time for Satan, was refuted at the Sermon on the Mount.

    Dolan’s too cute attempt to dismiss the issue by claiming that he researched the issue and his destructive choice he willfully made as he said–to support the sinner. (That Synodic “pastoral” nonsense?)
    Now Dolan certainly knows that the Church loves the sinner and prays for their repentance, but can never support the glorification and celebration of the sin itself. It’s mission is exactly the opposite.
    What ever happened to that admonition by Christ for these modern day apostles to be “as cunning as serpents” and certainly not to assist and elevate the celebration of evil and defile God’s Church in the process?

  • RaymondNicholas

    What is missing here is a dose of Catholic guts, from Dolan and any group marching in the parade that is true to the Faith. Just this once walk away: BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! Stand at the curb and turn your backs on the parade as it passes; spectators too! Or have Catholics become too fat in the mind and lazy in body to do something that hurts? As for me, I look elsewhere for priestly leadership.

    • John Albertson

      Boycott of the parade will do nothing. The only language understood would be a boycott of the collection basket. No doctrine no dollars.

  • SMC

    Cardinal Dolan is just following the lead of Pope Francis. I guess they never read the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.

  • Elizabeth Rex

    Here is something everyone can do: Sign this online petition (with over 4,500 signatures already) and forward it to everyone in your address book: https://www.lifesitenews.com/petition/cardinal-dolan-protect-the-st.-patricks-day-parade-from-gay-activist
    Thank you!

  • cestusdei

    If you give the homosexuals a wedge they will drive it in and take over. They do this all the time, so it is no surprise. The parade is now history. Soon they will purge it of any Catholic content.

  • Billy Bagbom

    Shows that even a good man can make a bad decision, and a wise man can occasionally be made to play the fool.

    • John Albertson

      Not ” a bad decision.” – Many bad decisions. And not “occasionally” be made to play the fool. – Habitually.

  • roger s.

    I knew there was something very wrong w/Cdl.Dolan the first time I saw him mugging for the camera, and going all “cute” for the media, and it happened any number of times subsequently. Also, his desire to bring the, at first, candidate Obama to the Al Smith soiree back around 2008; seemed to me very inappropriate for Cdl. Dolan to have such a pro-abort fanatic cozy up with what I thought were like-minded Catholics to honor a legendary Catholic candidate from the ‘thirties. And then later Pres. Obama showed up AGAIN for the Al Smith dinner. All this while Obama was, as President, waging a Contraceptive mandate war against pretty much all Catholic Hospitals, etc. Very unseemly. So, just what IS up with Cdl. Dolan? Another Catholic prelate PATSY for the DemoCrap party? Pathetic.

    • LongIslandMichael

      The Al Smith Dinners, the weak response to the contraception and abortion mandates of ObamaCare and his even half @ssed response to Cuomo over abortion mandates in NY along with his attempts to be loved by the media turned me off from this so called “prince of the Church” along time ago. I miss Cardinal O’Connor so much.

  • giant33

    Once again, such a small group of people(gays) are setting the agenda for the majority. Where is the Pope to straighten out Cardinal Dolan’s thinking. The smoke of Satan is in the Vatican. Dear Lord please put some sense into these church people.

  • Theresa

    Maybe Dolan is following the lead of Pope Francis and not be judgmental. Or
    maybe he is being blackmailed and fears if he does not bend to the demands of the gays
    they will expose more dirty laundry among our clerics.

  • sixlittlerabbits

    This is a very pertinent post as the New York City “wearing of the lavender” approaches. Praying that Cardinal Dolan will change his mind and withdraw as Grand Marshall. This article is now cited at http://dorothydayworker.blogspot.com/2014/09/gay-rights-abortion-infanticide-faith.html, which provides additional information on the St. Patrick’s Day Parade.

  • Minnesota Mary

    I think it is fitting and proper that a buffoon be the Grand Marshall of this parade of cretans, misfits, and sickos. Ease up on the Cardinal.

  • Justin Soutar

    I agree 100 percent. Cardinal Dolan must step down as Grand Marshal. This is a scandal if there ever was one!

  • Steve

    I recently watched a youtube video called the “Third Way” that is very good and I encourage my fellow Catholics to watch it. I urge you to watch it to the end, because it starts with the noise we live in and it ends in a way that is Faithful to the Magisterium.
    I think it is what Pope Francis is challenging us to do as well.
    The Church cannot change its position on the Sanctity of Marriage and in a sense we are called to a life of Chastity. A married person is not given a permission to have an affair as long as it is a relationship with the opposite sex? A married person is not allowed to have relations with someone if their spouse is no able to perform the act of Union? The Church holds a Faithful to the same standards.

  • LongIslandMichael

    Dolan continues to be a huge disappointment. He seems more interested in spending time in front of camera’s and wanting to be loved by the media on the Sunday Talk Shows than he does about standing firm by the Truth of Christ. Oh how I miss Cardinal O’Connor.

  • johnHinshaw

    Two signs I’ll be bringing to the parade: “Well, now we know where the snakes went – the Parade Committee” and “No Pro-Lifers Need Apply”

  • Blaise Pascal

    I don’t know what happened to Cardinal Dolan. He did a magnificent job of cleaning up Milwaukee after the scandalous Rembert Weakland. Maybe the cultural leftism is too strong for him to confront in New York. Cardinal Burke he is not.

  • Paul W

    God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah, now Pope Francis is trying to rebuild it. It would appear also that he is converting many Cardinals to his way of thinking,

  • Shelley

    Thank you Matthew! For Cardinal Dolan to step down would restore some faith in his bishopric. The 21 Coptic Christians are my inspiration.

  • dove

    I don’t understand why anyone in the st patricks day parade has any business identifying themselves by their sexual preference. Is another float going to say ” Heterosexual Irish People”? why do we need to know this information at a catholic parade celebrating a saint?

  • Pickwick

    To Dolan: “Sed nequaquam regnum tuum ultra consurget quaesurget sibi Dominus virum iuxta cor suum.” (“But now thy kingdom shall not continue: the LORD hath sought him a man after his own heart.”) 1 Sam 13:14

  • Mark Hardison

    But not because of the $57 million moved to some cemetery fund to shield it from sex abuse victims???? Gay folks in the parade is your priority?. Priorities people.. priorities..

  • PlanetJuggler

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0r88DhCt2A

    …and now it appears that the Cardinal’s press handlers are acting like mobsters by stiff-arming and roughing-up anyone who dares ask a moderately difficult question during the press conference.

    Way to be compassionate and open to all views, especially those that defend and promote the faith.

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