What’s Behind Pelosi’s Attack on Archbishop Cordileone?

Archbishop of San Fran

Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), the U. S. House of Representatives Minority Leader, and one of the most powerful Catholic politicians in the United States, has recently warned the Most Rev. Salvatore Cordileone, the Archbishop of San Francisco, to cancel his plans to speak at the June 19 National Organization for Marriage march on the Supreme Court in Washington, DC. Calling the event “venom masquerading as virtue,” Pelosi urged Archbishop Cordileone to stay away from the event, and “join us in seeking to promote reconciliation rather than division and hatred.”

Pelosi has partnered with other self-described Catholics including California Lt. Governor Gavin Newsom, and progressive Catholic activists like Fr. Ray Bourgeois, Marianne Duddy Burk, Mary Hunt, and Jeannine Grammick in protesting in a letter the Archbishop’s appearance at the pro-marriage rally.

And, while the parade of progressive politicians and Catholic dissidents is not surprising, Catholics should be much more concerned about the real power behind Pelosi’s attacks on the Archbishop.

The real story here is the betrayal of the bishops by those like John Gehring, formerly the Assistant Director of Media Relations at the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, who now works at the George Soros-funded Faith in Public Life/Faithful America. It is activists like Gehring who are providing the real power behind Pelosi’s threats.

Faithful America is a 501c (3) organization that has been very involved in political activity during the past few years. Most recently, the group spearheaded a petition drive on Facebook and other social media decrying what they see as Archbishop Cordileone’s “lending the church’s authority to their [National Organization for Marriage] vitriol and hatred—and undermining Pope Francis’s call for a more compassionate church.”

While a tax-exempt organization, Faithful America sponsors political protests that the organization calls “campaigns.” One of their current campaigns is to mobilize citizen opposition to Michael Boggs, a Georgia state judge who is described on the Faithful America website as a “right wing judge who misuses our faith” when he supports the 2nd Amendment and opposes same-sex marriage. Through petition drives, the group seeks to derail his Republican-backed nomination for a seat on the U.S. District Court because “he built a political career by fear mongering about homosexual Boy Scout leaders.”

Most of Faithful America’s causes involve gay and lesbian issues including a campaign supporting the right of an 8-year-old girl to practice an alternative gender identity at her Christian school; attacking World Vision for refusing to hire openly gay employees; and protesting the new teacher contract issued by the Archdiocese of Cincinnati that explicitly bans teachers who are involved in same-sex marriages. Furthermore, Faithful America distorts the new contract language, claiming that the Cincinnati Archdiocese will fire a teacher if he or she “attends a family member’s gay wedding,” or “shares kind words with a bullied student.”

The Origins of Faithful America
Faithful America was originally founded in 2004 by then Catholic Democratic congressman Tom Perriello. It was always a political organization—described in their literature as a “communications and organizing resource center dedicated to helping faith leaders reclaim the values debate in America for justice, compassion and the common good.” The reality was that Faithful America was created to help Perriello convince voters—especially pro-life voters—to move beyond what he called “divisive abortion rhetoric.”

In addition to Faithful America, Perriello later joined with Alexia Kelly, a former leader of the Catholic Campaign for Human Development, to help create Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good—a George Soros supported organization with similar goals as those of Faithful America. Both were designed to help Catholics see beyond a candidate’s stand on abortion, to other life issues. But, their rhetoric was misleading, and in a speech on October 17, 2008, Archbishop Charles Chaput warned that Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good had “done a disservice to the Church, confused the natural priorities of Catholic social teaching, undermined the progress pro-lifers have made, and provided an excuse for some Catholics to abandon the abortion issue instead of fighting within their parties and at the ballot box to protect the unborn.”

By 2009, drawing personnel and funders from the now-declining Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good, a re-organized Faithful America and Faith in Public Life teamed up with Sojourners, Jim Wallis’ social justice organization, and PICO National Network, the USCCB-funded community organizing initiative to help pass President Obama’s Affordable Care Act. The groups created a “toolkit” designed to marginalize the Bishops on healthcare reform by reassuring Catholics that conscience protections would remain in place in the President’s health care reform. This toolkit was used in parishes throughout the country.

Faith in Public Life/Faithful American have implemented a strategy of attacking the teachings of the Catholic Church by directly attacking the authority of the bishops. Faith in Public Life has been flush with Soros money—although in 2010 Wallis refused to acknowledge the receipt of the funds.  Wallis finally admitted what he called “his error” when the funding was made public in an article called “Wallis vs The Truth” by World Magazine editor Marvin Olasky.

In 2010, Faith in Public Life hired John Gehring as the senior writer and “Catholic Outreach Coordinator.” Gehring, who had just spent three years doing messaging work for Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good, was an especially valuable hire for Faith in Public Life because he formerly worked in media affairs for the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops.

Gehring now spends his time attacking the same bishops he once worked for. In April, he published an article entitled “More Catholic Than the Pope?” attacking Bishop Robert Morlino of Madison for upholding traditional liturgical practices and for defending hometown son Congressman Paul Ryan. Until 2012, Gehring was joined in the attacks on the bishops by Nick Sementelli, another former employee of Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good who became, until 2012, the group’s point man in attacking the bishops. Semintelli launched vicious personal attacks in 2012 on Archbishop Charles Chaput and Bishop Daniel R. Jenky of Peoria because of their concerns about conscience protections and funding for abortion in the Affordable Health Care Act. Since Sementelli’s departure, Gehring has taken up the role of episcopal critic.

One of Faith in Public Life/Faithful America’s major campaigns to marginalize the authority of the bishops involved a protest of the Bishops’ Fortnight for Freedom events in 2012. Claiming that the bishops’ support for the events showed “just how out of touch some bishops are with the real threats faced by working families,” Gehring wrote in a leaked email to reporters that the bishops were using “inflammatory and irresponsible rhetoric that conflates working through complex policy issues with a fundamental attack on the Catholic Church.” Gehring’s leaked email suggested that reporters should reject as “fiction” any claim that there is a “war on religion” and a “war on the Catholic Church.

Archbishop Cordileone is just the most recent target of the ongoing, well-funded attack on the Catholic Church by Faith in Public Life/Faithful America. As more and more bishops focus their priorities on defending core Catholic moral teachings and less on the progressive policies favored by an earlier generation of American bishops, the Catholic Left finds itself increasingly attacking episcopal authority. These attacks on the bishops come from progressive Catholic leaders like Fred Rotondaro, once a leader at Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good, who is now on the board of Faith in Public Life. Another Faith in Public Life board member, Tom Chabolla, previously served as Associate Director of Programs for the Catholic Campaign for Human Development. Other progressive Catholics who serve as speakers and organizers for Faith in Public Life/Faithful America include Greg Galluzzo, national director of the Gamaliel Foundation, and Sister Simone Campbell, national coordinator of Network, the progressive organization of women religious.

It is likely that the attacks on the bishops will continue to escalate—especially now that courageous Church leaders like Archbishop Cordileone are becoming effective obstacles to the progressive political agenda that threatens directly the religious liberty of Catholics and others. Still, no one should imagine that these attacks, so heavily funded by non-Catholic sources, reflect the views of faithful Catholics. This is why even a well-funded dissident minority cannot ultimately weaken a church that is united and confident in its teachings and mission and, most importantly, enjoys divine protection.

(Photo Credit: Lea Suzuki / San Francisco Chronicle)

Anne Hendershott

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Anne Hendershott is Professor of Sociology and Director of the Veritas Center at Franciscan University in Steubenville, Ohio. She is the author of Status Envy: The Politics of Catholic Higher Education; The Politics of Abortion; and The Politics of Deviance (Encounter Books). She is also the co-author of Renewal: How a New Generation of Priests and Bishops are Revitalizing the Catholic Church (2013).

  • BillinJax

    “venom masquerading as virtue,”

    She certainly knows this tactic inside out and uses it to her rich and powerful advantage every day of her misguided and corrupted political life.

    • DeeBeeCooper

      Isaiah 5:20

  • Michael B Rooke

    “Gehring now spends his time attacking the same bishops he once worked for. ”
    Sounds like something from the pages of Alta Vendita.

  • N

    It’s like God sent a message to Archbishop Cordileone: ‘Nancy Pelosi says you’re doing the wrong thing. Well done, good and faithful servant.’

    • Jim Boyd

      i agree…Nancy is doing a great job…

    • Jim Boyd

      but only 2000 souls came to here his rant…and some of them came by bus and will strop by the casinos on there way home…

      • Desert Sun Art

        No I guess English is not your first or even second language. And you don’t sound very mature, how old are you?

      • fredx2

        I think you meant “hear”

      • DeeBeeCooper

        oh stop… now you’re just embarrassing yourself.

  • jacobhalo

    Why are Pelosi and her cohorts Catholics? They surely don’t believe in many of the Catholic teachings.

  • RufusChoate

    Is Roy Bourgeois still considered a Father if he was laicized for his heretical opinions and radicalism? He was also excommunicated for his support of Priestesses. So in my view his opinions, comments or views are entirely without merit or interest. Jeanine Grammick is on the same path.

    • ColdStanding

      The mark conferred by the Holy Spirit upon the soul of those partaking of the sacrament of holy orders is eternal. However, all of the authority and dignity afforded him by the Church for the exercise of his office has been stripped from him. The honorific tile of Father is a dignity granted by the Church. A matter of lesser but not insignificant importance. He is not to be addressed as Fr. Roy any longer.

      It pleases the devil, pleases is the wrong word for a being that can only hate, to turn the soul of a priest. He is not physically dead, Mr. Bourgeois I mean, and with your prayers may still be saved. Your Father in Heaven desires that even Roy Bourgeois be saved from eternal death. Perhaps he has given you the task of praying for this miraculous conversion.

      • RufusChoate

        Sure but the title Father is honorific for a Priest in good standing and granted faculties by a Bishop and while he is still a Priest by the efficacy of his ordination he is also excommunicated since 2010. Excommunication separates him from the sacraments so it is really out of my hands or interest to pray for him or any one else on that list because I have many more worthy sinners to pray for.

        • ColdStanding

          The point of praying for your enemies is to find the one most obnoxious to your tastes; that most opposes your will; that stirs the greatest resistance to uttering a prayer for and pray for that one.

          • DeeBeeCooper

            hmmmm, tough choice… there are so many.

      • BeingSavedByGrace

        St John in his first letter recommends not to waste prayers for people that are in mortal sin, but he does not forbid it either. Our Lady of Fátima asked for us to pray for the POOR sinners so that they may not go to Hell. Does he classify as a Poor Sinner?

        I remember when reading the book written by the official Exorcist of Rome that one time when he was performing an exorcism of a drug-addict, Saint Padre Pio, who was in the mountains of Pietrelcina, sent him notice that that person was gone and he was wasting his time. Could he be one of them? Instead, I recommend, pray for those that he may have a negative effect on.

  • JERD2

    Politicians like Pelosi and Obama have a deliberate strategy to weaken the Catholic Church – use wedge issues like government funded contraception and same sex marriage to divide many in the faithful from their Bishops.

    It is classic wedge politics. No more, no less.

    • Pollos Hermanos

      Their job is to run a secular government for all citizens of the US. If the tax exempt church doesn’t want to play by the rules, it’s their problem, not Obama’s or Pelosi’s.

      • Sign

        Which rules? The ones where a heterodox phoney rebels against the Church and then claims fidelity?

        • Pollos Hermanos

          “I believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute; where no Catholic prelate would tell the president — should he be Catholic — how to act, and no Protestant minister would tell his parishioners for whom to vote; where no church or church school is granted any public funds or political preference, and where no man is denied public office merely because his religion differs from the president who might appoint him, or the people who might elect him.” – John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Sept. 12, 1960:

          • Sign

            Yea, he was a big phoney too. No surprises. In fact, his nonsense ushered in the problems we have today.

            • DE-173

              He was a pig and a rapist.

            • Pollos Hermanos

              So you admit that you would like the US to be a theocracy.

              • Sign

                No, I would like candidates who are moral, not degenerate relativists who worship perversion as their god. That is not asking too much.

                • Pollos Hermanos

                  So a moral Muslim who worships Allah would be okay with you then?

                  • JP

                    Actually, that’s a question you should ask yourself. Would you like a Muslim majority to make the laws in this nation?

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      If they’re Constitutional I’d have no problem with a legislator of any faith (or no faith) making laws.

                      Our constitution provides that “no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”

                      It means it. Any qualified individual of any faith can serve.

                    • Sign

                      Informing one’s mind with moral truth is not a religious test. It is a necessity for a free country. We are rapidly becoming a tyranny of relativism thanks to the gays and those who support them.

                    • eurram

                      You cannot be serious! Given their past and present history do you really think a Muslim majority would be Constitutional. If anything they would change the constitution to fit well with their koran

                  • Sign

                    If he observed the natural moral law, why not? The issue is not sectarian. The issue is fundamental moral truth known to all with a clear conscience and uncorrupted mind.

              • JP

                And you admit that you would like the RCC to be nothing more than a directorate of HSS.

          • DE-173

            Newsflash: The cult of Camelot is over.

            • Sign

              Yes, and those old phoney hypocrites got it wrong as usual.

          • fredx2

            And the said JFK was trying to get elected in a Protestant country, and was being assailed by charges that he would be the tool of the Pope.

            So he did what Politicians do.

            • DE-173

              Sold his soul.

          • JP

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • RufusChoate

            You do understand that this Kennedy’s erroneous personal opinion that is not substantiate by any teaching of either the Church or by the founders of this Republic. Hugo Black, an anti-catholic, racist New Dealer Progressive and Klansman pluck the phrase “Separation of Church and State” from an obscure personal letter written by Jefferson to use as a cudgel against the Catholic Church. Black was a Leftist attacking his enemies and Kennedy was a flawed and corrupt product of a vile and corrupt family.

          • DeeBeeCooper

            said the adulterer after cheating on his wife for the umpteenth time… you won’t get any sympathy points for exhuming THAT elitist scumbag on this thread.

      • fredx2

        So her job is to criticize religious leaders who go to meetings she does not approve of? That is ridiculous. She is not in any way defending a “secular” government. The guy wants to go to a meeting. Period She is trying to stop him.
        That’s not her job.

      • DE-173

        That’s caca de pollos. What part of “free exercise” don’t you understand?

      • JP

        For we all no that we all serve at the pleasure of the secular government. Go away, troll.

      • JERD2

        You are right about their job being secular. All the more reason for Pelosi, et al to avoid interfering in religious practice by requiring persons to participate in the distribution of contraceptives through government mandated health insurance plans. And you know what comes next – compelling clergy to perform wedding ceremonies to same sex couples.

        It is the President and his party that are intent on driving a wedge into the Church to divide her. It is clear as day.

    • BeingSavedByGrace

      Totally agree. A strong predetermined agenda to modify the church to their own view.

    • DeeBeeCooper

      precisely why obummer sought to speak at notre dame in 2009, and why he chose a “catholic” named after a bacterium to head the hhs.

  • Vinnie

    “Faithful America.” Notice it doesn’t mention who or what they have faith in.

    “…dedicated to helping faith leaders reclaim the values debate in America for justice, compassion and the common good.”

    I recently read something to the effect that Satan’s greatest work is getting people to do his work while thinking it’s what Christ wants.

    • DeeBeeCooper

      Once again… Isaiah 5:20

  • Sign

    For decades the USCCB has had liberals working for them in many capacities. Dissenters have even spoken at their meetings. Is it ever time for someone in authority to take responsibility for all this dissent associated with this organization?

    Is it really possible for decade after decade of liberal behind the scenes workers to be associated with the USCCB and no bishop to speak out about it?

    • Jay

      It may take my generation (X) to make the transition back to real Catholic teaching. The liberal boomers need to finally step aside (in all facets of society).

      • Pollos Hermanos

        Oh by all means GenX should take over.

        • RufusChoate

          You need to be careful with relying too much on polls. Many once accepted Sexual Minorities on the Left have fallen out of favor very quick once tolerance of them becomes too much of burden for the Leftist establishment and they are purge with great violence.

          It happened in both the Soviet Union and National Socialist Germany.

          Most people in that group of supporters just want to avoid being tormented as “bigots” by who can’t differentiate between the digestive tract and reproductive system. They will turn on you and your ilk without blinking if they are told to.

      • BeingSavedByGrace

        I don’t know about us, ol’ folks, stepping aside, but I truly welcome the new blood to join us in the trenches. I see a lot of the newest blood going to confession and doing great things in some areas. I hope it keeps spreading like wild-fire. Just as St. John Paul 2 tried to get the youth on fire, we need GenX filled with the fire of the Holy Spirit to glorify the Lord appropriately.

      • not a liberal boomer

        You’ll be waiting a long time if you expect them to step aside. That generation — and not just the Catholics — has been told since they were “kids” that they were the salvation of the world. Sort of like the illegal aliens are told today and have been told for several decades that they are the Future of the Church. Actually they’ve been told that for 500 years — since the initial “evangelization” of the Americas when “their people” were told by the Church that they were destined to “replace the Europeans” in the Church. To this day, at least in Texas, Catholic gringos are regularly told by Latinos that “We are going to replace you” to our faces ! — signed 51 year-old gringo Catholic. P.S. Any person or any generation who thinks that ANYONE is going to just step out of their way and let them take over sounds like they have been way too spoiled by Mommy and Daddy, who probably did just that.

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  • lifeknight

    I still say that fish rots from the head down, but who am I to judge?

    • mmj

      You just did!

    • tamsin

      That fish may be searching for the Lord and may have good will; we cannot know its heart. ;)

      • DE-173

        Are you saying who are we to judge? :)

        • Mlbc2930

          We must judge! How then if we do not judge will we believe if a behavior is amoral or not? Read the words of the Lord in Scripture , “If I say to the
          wicked, “You shall surely die,” and you give them no warning, or speak
          to warn the wicked from their wicked way, in order to save their life,
          those wicked persons shall die for their iniquity; but their blood I
          will require at your hand. But
          if you warn the wicked, and they do not turn from their wickedness, or
          from their wicked way, they shall die for their iniquity; but you will
          have saved your life.
          Again,
          if the righteous turn from their righteousness and commit iniquity, and
          I lay a stumbling block before them, they shall die; because you have
          not warned them, they shall die for their sin, and their righteous deeds
          that they have done shall not be remembered; but their blood I will
          require at your hand. If,
          however, you warn the righteous not to sin, and they do not sin, they
          shall surely live, because they took warning; and you will have saved
          your life.” Ezekiel 3:18-21

          • DE-173

            That was a joke, an attempt at levity.

      • JP

        We don’t have to know its heart. Public Sin is Public Sin. Pelosi on several matters has openly defied Church teaching and she demands she is the “Good Catholic.”

        • Jay

          She may say that but isn’t she prohibited from taking the Eucharist in San Fransisco?

  • Silky Johnson

    Can anyone explain to me why Pelosi and these other highly-paid, overtly anti-catholic Catholics have not been excommunicated? What does it take to be excommunicated these days? I’m dead serious. Is there a reason why these professional Catholics have been allowed to run roughshod over the Church with no consequences? And what message is the Church sending to those Catholics who go through great pains to be faithful? This is a problem with church leadership.

    • Ms_Scotty

      I believe that Nancy Pelosi was privately reprimanded by her bishop (the one prior to Bp. Cordileone) some time ago. If she continues to present herself for the Eucharist while publicly supporting abortion, she excommunicates herself and endangers her immortal soul. Would a public excommunication be more satisfying? Absolutely! I would welcome it. Ultimately, however, it comes down to the state of her soul, which none of us save God can know. Notice that Kathleen Sebelius is no longer publicly referred to as a Catholic. I read somewhere that she also was reprimanded by her bishop, and apparently elected not to be identified with the label of “Catholic”.

      • FrankW

        Yeah, my understanding (which could be wrong) is that official ex-communication is reserved for clerics. That said, I share your frustrations about this.

        If Pelosi was privately reprimanded by her bishop, and has not recanted her position (which is obvious), then why was she included in the foot washing ceremony during the Mass this past Holy Thursday?

        • Dummox

          The foot washing was in an episcopal church

        • Katie

          It wasn’t a Catholic Mass. It was Episcopalian.

      • BillinJax

        That doesn’t work and never will. We need to go beyond just
        asking them to avoid presenting themselves for communion. This is the easy way
        out for the clergy and they know it. You must include a formal public request
        (requirement) to immediate repentance and if unheeded publicly pronounced
        excommunication until reconciliation is granted by the informed bishop. These
        people are public figures and must be dealt with in public for the sake of the
        faithful who have been left confused, scandalized, and corrupted by such public
        behavior of these individuals who seek to set the rules and govern us.

        • JoAnne Braley

          Yes, the days of old, even Kings had to repent publically. Some had to wear old cloth and spread ashes on their heads. At least we could have some brave Bishop write something about her. I think she’s (Nancy) a tad crazy to tell the truth. What’s even sadder are the people who listen to her stupidity, from her pulled up face, soft voice, latest fashions, and believe. She gets back in her private jet and thinks of being Queen of the World, I suppose.

          • Jim Boyd

            JoAnne…someone is positing vial comments on this blog and using your name…see above

            • Desert Sun Art

              You mean vile.

              • Jim Boyd

                thanks…i went to a catholic grade school

                • fredx2

                  And probably “disparaging” would be a better word choice

                • DeeBeeCooper

                  had you graduated, we might have an ounce of respect for you, but then again, probably not even then.

            • DeeBeeCooper

              jimbo… you’re 13 years old, aren’t you.

            • PalaceGuard

              The comment wasn’t really vial.It was more of an ampoule, or a small flask.

          • Jim Boyd

            how many female bishops are in your church?

            • fredx2

              Zero. It turns out that every religion that has adopted women bishops has lost massive amounts of membership. while the Catholic church and others that do not have women bishops continue to grow.

              However, the Washington Post reported that about 40% of the people that work in the Vatican were women.

              And the Ratzinger prize for Theology was just given to a women – Anne Marie Pelletier.

              Pope Francis has appointed several women to the governing bodies of the church. He recently created a commission to deal with sex abuse, and 4 of the 8 appointees were women. He has appointed a woman to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences. he appointed Francesca Chaougui as an adviser to the group redesigning the Vatican’s finances.

              Virtually ever parish in the united states has a woman as the business manager. Most people take communion from a woman when they go to sunday mass, and the bulk of those seleced as readers during the mass seem to be women.

              • Jim Boyd

                thinking women would do a far greater job than i bunch of old men in halloween garb….love the red slippers

                • DeeBeeCooper

                  jimbo… trust me, just coming out of the closet will make you feel better than attacking a 2,000 year-old institution founded by God himself.

        • DeeBeeCooper

          hear, hear.

      • Objectivetruth

        Anyone who puts their sinful life before their sacramental life is a fool.

        • Jim Boyd

          i agree…the bishop is a fool

          • fredx2

            The bishop has some words for you. From his speech today at the rally:

            “And let us not forget: we must also proclaim this truth especially with love for those who disagree with us on this issue, and most of all, for those who are hostile toward us. We must be careful, though, not to paint our opponents on this issue with broad strokes. There is a tendency in our culture to do this to groups of people the powerful don’t know and think they don’t like. We must not do that. We must recognize that there are people on the other side of this debate who are of good will and are sincerely trying to promote what they think is right and fair. It is misdirected good will. But even those from whom we suffer retribution – and I know some of you have suffered in very serious ways because of your stand for marriage – still, we must love them. That is what our ancestors in faith did, and we must, too. Yes, it is easy to become resentful when you are relentlessly and unfairly painted as a bigot and are punished for publicly standing by the basic truth of marriage as a foundational societal good; it is tempting to respond in kind. Don’t. For those of us who are Catholic, we just heard our Master command us in the gospel proclaimed at Mass the day before yesterday: “love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you” (Mt 5:44). We must not allow the angry rhetoric to co-opt us into a culture of hate.”:

      • mahrt

        Although we cannot know the interior state of her soul, the purpose of an excommunication would be to uncouple her very public opposition to church teaching from any Catholic reputation.

        • APEppink

          “Although we cannot know the interior state of her soul…”

          No, we can’t but reasonable, obvious inferences can certainly be made.

        • DeeBeeCooper

          i DO know the interior state of her soul, precisely because she publicly calls abortion a “virtue”, and Church teaching on it “vitriol”. Moreover, she uses her power accordingly. Now just check Isaiah 5:20, and you have yourself a closed case. DONE.

          • Bill

            She equates abortion with sacred. That is also the term she used when asked about abortion.

      • JP

        Except, Cdl Wuerl continues to offer her communion while in DC.

      • TERRY

        “Would it be more satisfying? Absolutely!”

        We are not talking about political oneupmanship we are talking about someone’s immortal soul. Pray for her.

        Public excommunication, which she richly deserves, would be satisfying on one level, but that is not a good level – pray for her.

        • Ms_Scotty

          You are right, Terry, she needs prayer. What also needs to happen, though, is the continual giving of scandal by politicians and other public figures who call themselves “Catholic”, but at every turn, act against the faith. I do believe that the bishops have a role to play in calling out those who do so.

          • BillinJax

            You are right on that point.

            Can we can love our neighbor and at the same time disapprove
            of the way he beats his wife, abuses his children, and kicks his dog? Yes, and sure we should keep him in our prayers but when discussing his behavior with some of our neighbors who witness the same in him are we not at liberty to tell the truth and within our community point out those short comings for the sake of the entire neighborhood? Turning a blind eye or failing to inform such would be a disservice to the common good of our community and could at some point become a sin of omission. We can hold our tongue in cursing him personally but attesting to his lack of concern and love for others is not unkind or unloving, it is the very heart of love and concern for God’s creation.

            • Ms_Scotty

              Beautifully said, BillinJax. Thank you.

        • BeingSavedByGrace

          And, most importantly, let’s pray for those that may be (or will be) swayed by her rhetoric. Many are like infants without real knowledge of their faith and fall prey to people like her. She brings to mind the words from the Lord about the evil-intent ones that will go to extremes to convert others. Power and humility don’t generally mix.

        • larcolant

          I was thinking if everyone who said one Hail Mary each time we read of a Pelosi it could do so much for the individual ad the world if they publicly repent. I am not suggesting we stay silent and pray, public discourse is necessary, but prayer will transform the heart.

          • Ms_Scotty

            Appealing to our Mother for her intercession certainly couldn’t hurt!

      • angeldia

        Pelosi shouldn’t be considered “Catholic” either. She brings disgrace to the Catholic Church.

    • openheart

      The problem with excommunication is that it can be used as a weapon against the Church by those the Church seeks to ostracise, claiming the Church is intolerant The Church leaders have to know that this is not an argument within the camp, but by the outside media which exploits differences between members of the Church for their own purposes claiming “Oh look! Christians can’t get on with each-other! Yet they teach us to love one another!” We know Pelosi are not true Christians and not genuine Catholics but they pretend to be for now as it suits them to claim it.

      • Sign

        The problem is card has been played for so many decades it is meaningless. A public rebuke and excommunication would set the truth straight for all to see and learn.

        • openheart

          Good response but this is not the way to fight- we show our cards, they hide theirs- They see us coming -we don’t know what they’ll come up with next. The Church is no longer the all powerful political master (if it ever really were) and needs Christ’s teaching to behave shrewdly and innocent as doves. A better response is to show we support children knowing both their parents, and limit rights to divorce, rather than trying to out gun them with sanctions which mean next to nothing when they attend a liberal led Catholic church round the corner rather than an official one they did before.

      • FranklinWasRight

        The church is in a crisis because it has cared more about PR for the last 60 years than proclaiming the truth.

        I am in my 30′s, I was raised by Pelosi Catholics as were most of the people I know. So many of us are starving for truth, having been malnourished by our upbringing. The church needs to stop worrying about being attacked and just feed her sheep, if we proclaim truth God will take care of the rest.

        • openheart

          God is permitting these dark cloudy days to come over all the lands. The hostility against Christians throughout the world in recent days is prophesied in the Holy Bible, all these things are to happen before the coming of the Antichrist, including less love for one another, hatred to God, signs in the sky and seas. “Watch and Pray”, the Lord taught us, and to “Lift up our heads when we see our sanctification is near”. These days we try to share the Gospel with as many as we can, to save as many as we can and yes, rely on God, but do not think these troubles will pass soon. They are only the beginning. So we need to stand firm: Our Lord is soon to come and we shall live with Him forever. These troubles are temporary.

      • DeeBeeCooper

        they already claim that the Church is intolerant, and worse. Your point is that we should all just get along. Rodney King was not the new philosopher King, and your argument is so weak as to be lukewarm.

    • MillerJM

      There have been state and local elections in the past where excommunication has backfired. The politician ended up using it as a political tool and badge of honor, which aided in his/her election. Pelosi is just the type that would do this. The last thing we want to do is aid in her advancement. As far as damage control, the best thing to do with this lady is ignore her and keep being faithful. She has been warned by her bishop and by Catholics all over the world about the risk to her soul for receiving Holy Communion as a public sinner. Honestly, if she doesn’t get it by now, it is just because she is arrogant. She would just go to some liberal priest who would give her Communion anyway – look who she is hanging with! The Lord will deal with her.

      • BeingSavedByGrace

        There is a thing called unrepentant ‘repeat-offense’ sinner. Once anyone gets so far into habitual sin, especially mortal sin, and justifies it based on their self-righteousness, God’s criteria for sin becomes subjugated by the person’s own perspective. It is a pervasive blindness brought about by pride mostly.
        The latest excommunications that I am aware of involved women being ordained to the priesthood. The most recent in Europe (Germany I think).

      • Jim Boyd

        some jerk is posting and using your name…see above

    • ColdStanding

      The council, of recent memory, determined that there can be no coercion with regards to religion beliefs and practices. The commencement of the adherence to the tenants of the faith must be an an act free from coercion. People must be free to accept the faith without (non-church) governments stopping them. People must never be forced to accept the faith by any government, Church or otherwise. Here is the leap that was then made: If it is untenable to have an coercion with regards to the acceptance of the faith, it is also untenable to for any action to be performed that even hints at coercion with in the practice of the faith. The bishops have erred always on the side of not coercing. Well, almost always. For example, they must act to squelch any manifestations of the faith that would lead to the idea becoming wide spread that, since we have what are called laws, those laws should, logically, be enforced. That idea must, it is thought, not be allowed. If you think this idea, you will be subject to coercion. Think FFI.

    • John O’Neill

      Nancy Pelosi is the high priestess of the American Catholic Church, a church that is based on the teachings of Ted Kennedy and his clan; it is desperately trying to replace the Roman Catholic Church, an international church founded by Christ two thousand years ago. The American church is dedicated to feminism and homosexuality and the infallibility of the Democrat party; unfortunately many bishops who ostensibly are members of the Roman Catholic Church are actually shadow followers of the Pelosi Church and are in a position to sow discord and doubt among those who are still practitioners of the Roman Catholic Tradition. Unfortunately the majority of Catholic Universities in the American State are staunch supporters of the Pelosi/Kennedy Church. Many Catholics are unaware that their pastors who say mass for them every sunday are actually secret followers of the Pelosi/Kennedy Church. In the New Testament these Americans were well described as “wolves in sheep’s clothing”.
      It is very important that we traditional Roman Catholics remain faithful to our Church and do not let the American pagani take it over. St. Augustine showed us the courage to resist heresy when he bravely kept the Arians at bay.

      • BeingSavedByGrace

        You’re thinking of St. Athanasius, the stout bishop of Jerusalem that was on the run and hiding for vast portions of his life after the Nicene Creed was written. He was surrounded by Arians, but stubborn as a good Catholic should be. I believe that many bishops are trying to be fatherly to everyone, but forget to have a more firm position at times. Only God really knows what is the best strategy with these people … but the situation is not pretty; nothing new to the Church of 1980+ years of age.

        • John O’Neill

          Until we start seeing our bishops in American prisons we will not know what they really believe or not believe. The rest is all politics and smoozing with the political elite at Georgetown and other bastions of the American Catholic church.

        • DeeBeeCooper

          they’re being undercut by the present pope… Francis told everyone to lighten up, and as soon as he could, replaced faithful bishops in key pro-life posts, because he wants to be seen as a “nice guy”. we’ll see how many of those live in hell.

        • PetrusRomanus1

          Athanasius was actually bishop (patriarch) of Alexandria, the city of his birth., from 328 to 373, less 17 years roughly distributed over five exiles.

      • fredx2

        ” infallibility of the Democrat party” — so true. Just go over to National Catholic reporter and you will find that without fail, they support the Democratic Party line on everything – no matter what. In the HHS mandate controversy, I thought I would find some support at least, since that website pretends to be run by Catholics, but in fact they exhibit almost a hatred of the church everytime it goes against anything the Democrats want. It is weird.

        • BillinJax

          Weird and true and obvious and unbelievable and not
          surprising since many of our bishops were born and raised dyed in the wool card
          carrying democrats with fond attachments to labor unions but paid no attention
          to the socialist takeover of the working man’s party turning it into quasi communist
          bureaucrats.

        • DeeBeeCooper

          it’s more than weird… it’s heresy.

      • Jim Boyd

        need to shut this cult down…2000 years of pain is enough

        • fredx2

          Are you vaguely aware of what a cult is?

        • DeeBeeCooper

          is yours a paid troll position, jimbo, or do you do it for free? i know unemployment can be rough, but your mom wants to use the computer, so… go to your room.

      • Bill

        This appears to be an accurate description.

    • Eric

      I have the same questions Silky.

    • Jim Boyd

      i cannot explain why they belong to a cult

      • Desert Sun Art

        Is English your first language?

        • Jim Boyd

          no, biblica…then i went to mother goose for her teachings…

          • DeeBeeCooper

            stay off the drugs, son.

      • DeeBeeCooper

        and we can’t explain how you are able to access a computer with such a low i.q.

    • Bill

      Alas, there is a reason. As soon as the bishops go forward with the excommunication, Sen. Patrick Leahy unleashes the Federal justice system on dioceses that were involved in the child – abuse scandals. Politics is ugly.

      • Silky Johnson

        I believe that you have hit the nail on the head. My advice to the Catholic Church is take the kick in the pants and them move forward. The best way to deal with extortion and blackmail is to go public with your sins in such a way that the blackmailer is left with nothing. Send the priests and bishops responsible to jail. Lose the property. Take it on the chin. And after that, what have they got? Nothing. Then the church can boldly proclaim the gospel and become a real for e to be reckoned with because it won’t be concerned about protecting its image and interests.

    • DeeBeeCooper

      it’s called FEAR… of not being ‘liked’.

    • PetrusRomanus1

      Excommunications involving political positions in a country which has and practices separation of church and state is extremely problematic because they create far more difficulties than they resolve. The church and its bishops make themselves subject to charges of political interference, which would likely put various church tax exemptions in jeopardy. Plus, you’re not likely to find an excommunicated Catholic politicial who would even consider repenting, which is the essential purpose of every excommunication.

    • guest

      WARNINGS FOR THIS
      CENTURY: LEARN THE LESSONS OF HISTORY

      Russian writer (former atheist) Alexandr Solzhenitzyn warns this century:

      “The failings of human consciousness, DEPRIVED of its DIVINE DIMENSION [and its resulting convenient reluctance or its stunted inability to discern good from
      evil], have been a DETERMINING FACTOR in ALL THE MAJOR CRIMES of THIS CENTURY”.
      AND
      Another Russian writer, Fyodor Dostoevsky warned the world:
      … That in any culture which does not acknowledge God and moral absolutes, everything and anything then
      becomes acceptable, fashionable “everything is permitted” … and, in the end,
      inevitable … even the most heinous of crimes.

      … Hence the world got Stalin, Hitler, Mao Tse Tung Pol Pot, Caesescu, Idi
      Amin, etc. and the mass-murder of some 150 MILLION alleged “enemies of the
      state”.

      … and STILL this world of “moral relativism” and “moral bankruptcy” or at best “moral indifference” is puzzled by the rise of political monsters of our time… even though these characterised the moral climate preceding these “Monsters of history”.

      The current Western cultures still has not yet woken to the fact that these
      monsters followed Marxist ATHEIST declarations (Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot
      being Marxists and Hitler being a zealous follower of ATHEIST Friedrich
      Nietzsche’s policies and beliefs … that there is no God to worry about. Today, the likes of Richard Dawkins also espouses that “there is no such thing as ‘right’
      or ‘wrong’ … just a merciless universe” … implying a JUSTIFICATION of
      giving oneself LICENCE to formulate any rules for living that suit the moment … or no rules at all – just as did the MONSTERS of HISTORY!

      Lesson: Nations, people who fail to heed the lessons of history then go on to
      condemn themselves to repeat those mistakes.

      WARNING to the cultures of today:

      Of course the teachings
      of the Catholic Church largely were ignored and neither of the lessons by
      Solzhenytzyn, or Dostoyesky were heeded
      … and so today’s cultures are ALREADY repeating the same old mistakes.

    • guest

      WARNINGS FOR THIS CENTURY: LEARN THE LESSONS OF HISTORY
      Russian writer (former atheist) Alexandr Solzhenitzyn warns this century:
      “The failings of human consciousness, DEPRIVED of its DIVINE DIMENSION [and its resulting convenient reluctance or its stunted inability to discern good from
      evil], have been a DETERMINING FACTOR in ALL THE MAJOR CRIMES of THIS CENTURY”.
      AND
      Another Russian writer, Fyodor Dostoevsky warned the world:
      … That in any culture which does not acknowledge God and moral absolutes,
      everything and anything then becomes acceptable, fashionable “everything is permitted” … and, in the end, inevitable … even the most heinous of crimes.

      … Hence the world got Stalin, Hitler, Mao Tse Tung Pol Pot, Caesescu, Idi
      Amin, etc. and the mass-murder of some 150 MILLION alleged “enemies of the
      state”.

      … and STILL this world of “moral relativism” and “moral bankruptcy” or at best “moral indifference” is puzzled by the rise of political monsters of our time… even though these characterised the moral climate preceding these “Monsters of history”.

      The current Western cultures still has not yet woken to the fact that these
      monsters followed Marxist ATHEIST declarations (Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot
      being Marxists and Hitler being a zealous follower of ATHEIST Friedrich
      Nietzsche’s policies and beliefs … that there is no God to worry about.
      Today, the likes of Richard Dawkins also espouses that “there is no such
      thing as ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ … just a merciless universe” … implying a JUSTIFICATION of giving oneself LICENCE to formulate any rules for living that suit the moment … or no rules at all – just as did the MONSTERS of HISTORY!

      Lesson: Nations, people who fail to heed the lessons of history then go on to
      condemn themselves to repeat those mistakes.

  • Pollos Hermanos

    Ooooh Sooooorooos. Looks like you got your boogieman quota in for this article. Now lets talk about NOM’s shady funding shall we?

    • Sign

      Are you serious? There is no boogieman. The truth is rebellious dissenters spew propaganda.

      • Pollos Hermanos

        I’m not exactly clear about how reporting verified facts about the people involved in this little march is “propaganda”. Care to elaborate?

        • Sign

          The term boogieman is used to deflect away from the truth. The truth is traitors to the faith use the faith to further demonic left wing goals.

          No one of good conscience opposes the truth of marriage as explained by Christ through His Church. Clear enough for you?

          • Pollos Hermanos

            Your faith really has no say in how a civil marriage license is issued in this country.

            Try again.

            • Sign

              Actually my faith, like your relativism, informs my vote. So, yea I have a say. Your demand to stamp out people with a conscience is very Nazi-like though.

            • fredx2

              People who are religious have no say in how this country is run? Your fascist slip is showing.

              • Pollos Hermanos

                Laws must pass constitutional muster in order to stand, it has been found time and time again that Catholic backed laws banning same sex marriage lack rational basis and are unconstitutional.

                I’m sorry you don’t like Constitution of the United States.

                • DE-173

                  Oh goody, now he’s telling us that the black-robed mob is infallible.
                  And now for a ringing defense of Plessy v. Ferguson, Buck v. Bell, Korematsu v. the United States, Roe v. Wade, Kelo v. New London, and NFIB v. Sebelius.

                  • Pollos Hermanos

                    Just because you don’t like the decision doesn’t make it legally unsound.

                    You sound like the kid who blames his failure to test well on the teacher hating him.

                    • DE-173

                      Just because you like the decision doesn’t make it legally sound.

                      But do tell me how separate but equal, involuntary sterilization and the rest of these noxious doctrines prove the infallibility of judges.

                    • DE-173

                      troll

                    • tamsin

                      If a troll has good will and seeks the Lord, who am I to judge the quality of his arguments?

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      In other words, you can’t argue facts you don’t like so you’ll play the troll card.

                      It’s cute but ineffective.

                    • Sign

                      Which facts? That you are a provocateur? That you peddle the same old gay propaganda? That your “evidence” is that you want what you want?

                    • DE-173

                      Judicial edict and novel poular whim are not facts.
                      You are a troll, that’s a fact.

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      I sincerely doubt you have even read the rulings in any of the marriage cases (including the sections entitled “Findings of Fact”).

                      If you have, by all means prove it to me.

                    • bonaventure

                      One very important ruling stands out as a precedent against homosexual “marriage,” and all homosexualist activists absolutely and at all costs want this ruling to be forgotten and buried.

                      Yet, it is BECAUSE of this ruling, that one State (which has since legalized homosexual “marriage”) had not choice but to do it through the legislative way.

                      And the most frustrating for liberals in that State were/are two facts:

                      (1) that they had to wait years since the ruling to pull the needed numbers in the legislature to redefine marriage;

                      and

                      (2) that the current legislation redefining marriage can be changed back in the future to what is was before, without being unconstitutional, since the original court ruling made it very clear that marriage between one man and one woman exclusively is constitutional.

                    • ColdStanding

                      Adam Baum?

                    • DE-173

                      Yep, one in the same. I had a mood change.

                    • ColdStanding

                      Why, DE-173, that’s sure is a fetching image you use. Is that by chance a ship you served on in your youth? Before, I mean, you became a train conductor or overseer of filled out government forms.

                    • tamsin

                      A “mood change”? Is that covered by Obamacare, or was it out-of-pocket?

                      Do we call you Adam or DE?

                    • ColdStanding

                      perhaps DEAdam?

                    • DE-173

                      After some time, I realized that much of what appears here is much like the “Philadelphia Experiment”. DE-173 was the designation of the U.S.S. Eldridge, the ship supposedly involved in “Project Rainbow” in October 1943.

                      Popularized by Charles Berlitz, of Bermuda Triangle fame, the idea that electromagnetic fields can cause a destroyer to be displaced in time and returned to its original place and time with some crewmen fused into the shup’s superstructure neither comports with the laws of physics, any possible application of 1940′s technology or the Navy’s records.

                      Yet the tale survives by virtue one major protaganist, movies and youtube videos.

                      It survives because a few afflcted souls are evidence proof and really want to believe. It bears much in common with homosexual pseudonogamy and other strange things that exist only in the minds of a few afflicted souls.

                      For the record, I consider the absence of physical laws to be more probative than Naval records, because the government lies.

                      This new moniker is a reminder of how much tall tales have an immortal life.

                    • DE-173

                      Read below, you decide. Just don’t call me late for supper!

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      If you were on a witness stand testifying in a marriage equality case. What evidence would you put forward to help win your case?

                      Your compatriots haven’t found the magic bullet to win as of yet so what would you do? I highly doubt sitting on the stand screaming “sodomite” would win for you.

                    • DE-173

                      What evidence would you put forward to help win your case?

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      It’s already been put forth. Read the rulings from any of the last dozen or so cases we’ve won.

                    • DE-173

                      That’s not evidence, it’s precedent. I don’t suppose if you can’t understand marriage requires a man and a woman, understanding the difference between evidence a precedent is hopeless.

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      Not in 19 States, DC and pending in half a dozen others (and counting)

                      Marriage in those places legally includes same sex couples.

                    • DE-173

                      And if it’s new, it must be right.
                      Now you’ll tell me the income tax is “voluntary”.

                    • Sign

                      As I said it is not about evidence. It is about rational and moral judges. Any uncorrupted 6 six year old knows “gay sex” and “marriage” are absurd.

                      That some courts are too dim or corrupt to see the obvious only indicts them more.

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      Any 6 year old shouldn’t be thinking about any kind of sex.

                    • Sign

                      Deflection as usual. A child knows
                      “gay” issues are wrong.

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      That’s why as older people are dying off, support for the gay community grows.

                    • RufusChoate

                      Homosexuality is such a fanciful and silly world view where you can pretend to be fully masculine or feminine depending on you mood and have pretend families and pretend communities which operate on the premise that you can interact as a man or a woman with who ever you will.

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      Pretty sure none of us care what your opinion on the matter is.

                    • Sign

                      That is called confusion and relativism. The culture of death grows with hedonism.

                    • Sign

                      Any law that affirms insanity as good is not legally sound. It is unjust.

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      Tell it to the court. Bring evidence and make your case.

                    • Sign

                      The court has become arbitrary in most ways. It is not about “the law”. It is about whatever some guy/gal in a black dress says it is. To have a rational and moral judiciary one needs judges who are rational and moral. If not then we get perversions and grave injustices like “gay marriage”. Such nonsense. What is next square circles because some guy in a black dress claims it?

                    • RufusChoate

                      Why would any rational person argue that a fundamentally disordered actions of nihilistic narcissists engaged in sterile and grotesque sexual congress be entitled to the same protection as normative fecund sexual unions in producing a stable component of society?

                    • Sign

                      They would not be rational at all.

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      Pretty much every court that’s heard a marriage case.

                      Again I’ll ask you. What would you put forth on the stand?

                    • RufusChoate

                      Not really that is cute digression. The California Proposition 7 Case was refused standing because the elected Officials California declined to defend it and the will of the People of California which compelled the Petition Organizer to seek standing that was denied.

                    • Sign

                      That is the way homosexualists work. Crafty and manipulative to achieve the result they want. It cannot be done any other way.

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      Where did I mention standing? I asked you what evidence you’d put forth (this is a hypothetical in case you missed it).

                    • JP

                      I think Roland Friesler said pretty much the same thing.

                    • RufusChoate

                      Was the Dred Scott case legally sound or just? Every action performed in every Totalitarian dictatorship since Napoleon were Legal and supported by the ruling class of the States and only a fatuous simpleton would argue that any Law is just or sound merely by its existence in the Legal code.

                    • Sign

                      Stop being rational. Stick with the gay narrative.

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      Dred Scott was a product of the times and was rectified by the 13th and 14th amendments.

                      Much like Romer v. Evans was fixed by Lawrence v. Texas. Lawrence v. Texas is now part of the controlling law that led to the Windsor decision a year ago, also based on the 14th and 5th Amendments.

                    • Sign

                      Yes, and the Lawrence case is one more example of absurdity based in gay politics not the law or truth.

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      It’s been settled case law for more than 11 years. What are you going to do about it?

                    • Sign

                      Point out that is it unjust. But, you do not care about truth or justice.

                    • RufusChoate

                      Marriage for Homosexuals is an irrational product of this time which are fundamentally disordered and illogical for a healthy. Homosexuality is a silly evolutionary dead end activity that emotionally immature and dysfunctional persons engage in as an act of self love.

                    • JP

                      No, Dred Scott was rectified by gunpowder, musket, and grape-shot.

                • JP

                  Fact is, there is nothing preventing gays from getting civil unions. But, that is not what they want. What they demand is marriage, which is different from getting a civil union. Over half the states in the country tired to get civil unions on the books, but the gay lobby refused. They want marriages (a religious sacrament) or nothing at all.

                  • Pollos Hermanos

                    Mainly because marriage in US law conveys certain rights.

                    Where in civil law is marriage defined as a religious sacrament?

                    • Sign

                      Any so called right may be obtained by a legal device that is not marriage. But, it is not about that at all. It is about normalizing what is abnormal.

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      Sorry but no. Social security benefits, inheritance benefits as well as a host of other things could not have been obtained without civil marriage.

                      Again I’ll ask, where in civil law is marriage defined as a religious sacrament?

                    • Sign

                      The law can account for all those and more. The push for immoral unions is about changing society.

                      Civil marriage is not about a sacrament. It is about truth. The truth is two men can never, ever, ever be married. It is a contradiction in logic. It is impossible. It is fiction.

                    • JP

                      I forgive you for your many non-sequiturs. The issue is not whether civic law recognizes marriage as being a religious sacrament. The issue is whether gay unions confer the same benefits as couples that were married. That was exactly what 26 states were codifying into their laws when the gay lobby balked.

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      You bet they balked:

                      ” No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

                    • JP

                      Another non-sequitur. Go away, troll.

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      Can’t argue the facts so the troll word goes a flyin’.

                      Got it.

                    • JP

                      Copying and pasting is not debating. The above excerpt you provided is a straw men. Granting of civil unions to gays in no way deprives gays of rights, property, or anything else. Go away. You’re becoming a bore.

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      Yet you keep answering.

                      I apologize for copying and pasting a part of the US Constitution to make a point about the US Constitution, it just seemed faster.

                      Next time I’ll hand type it out to keep you happy.

                    • JP

                      Oh, you foolish little man. The wording means everything in law. And the gay lobby has changed the goal posts several times in this debate. At first, gays cried and gnashed their teeth, “All we want are the same benefits married couples have”, they pleaded. So, states began implementing just that. Then the gay lobby changed the goal posts. Now, they demand “marriage”. The problem is that states do not marry people. Churches do. States can issue marriage licenses, and do the secular ceremony at the court houses. But, states do not confer the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony on anyone. The Sacrament of Holy Matrimony preceded the United States by 1800 years.

                      What the gay lobby is attempting to do is get the states (and more importantly, the federal courts) to declare that “marriage” a constitutional right, And once that is ingrained into our court system, no Church can refuse to marry gays.

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      When civil unions were proven to be ineffective in relation to federal law, the community fought to secure their rights.

                      “The problem is that states do not marry people. Churches do.”

                      That is demonstrably untrue. A church marriage is not required for any marriage to take place. It is completely optional. A church can refuse to marry anybody it wants.

                    • JP

                      Yes, and what the state produce is a certificate of union. The Roman Catholic Church, which created the institution of marriage through the conferment of the Holy Sacrament of Matrimony (The making of mothers) does not automatically recognize civil marriages. As a matter of fact, a couple must get married in the Church, otherwise they are living in sin.

                      Couples can simply live together, which many if not most young couples do. They can call themselves married, if they wish. But, the state does not recognize them as such until they get a piece of paper which is signed by some bureaucrat at the court house. But, they still are not married. They only have a change of legal status. Just the same, the RCC could marry a couple. But, until the state recognizes it as such, in civic law, they are still single. But, who confers marriage? Hint, it is not the State.

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      I’m not concerned with a church marriage. I’m concerned with civil law. What any religion wants to call a marriage is not any of my concern, nor is it the concern of the government.

                    • JP

                      If you’re not concerned with the Sacrament of Holy Matrimony I suggest you leave and visit HuffPo or Koz.

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      Nope, Cordileone and NOM are rallying in Washington D.C. in hopes of intimidating the courts into applying their religious version of marriage onto civil law.

                      That makes it my business.

                    • ColdStanding

                      But the two are intimately connected. It does not matter what “any” religion wants to call marriage. It matters what the Christian Catholic religion calls marriage.

                      Your protestations of disinterest in the beliefs and practices of Christians is manifestly not true. You may claim to “only” want the state to say that you can be married legally, but what follows on the heels of that permission/recognition is that it will be illegal to speak against or dissent from the idea that a man and a man can actually be married. Therefore, it does matter a great deal what the state does.

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      How exactly will dissent be illegal? Examples please.

                    • ColdStanding

                      I have already said how it will be illegal.

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      I must have missed it. I don’t see any examples in your post immediately above.

                • Sign

                  The constitution does not support gay behavior. False interpretation by misfit judges do that.

                  They have been wrong before and are wrong now.

                  • Pollos Hermanos

                    The constitution is silent of any sexual behavior, however, civil marriage licenses fall under the 14th amendment.

                    Much like the 4th amendment did not apply to automobiles when it was written. It was up to the courts to interpret the law towards new situations.

                    • Sign

                      Automobiles are morally neutral. Gay marriage is abnormal and a crime against society.

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      Tell it to the court and see how far you get.

                    • Sign

                      Depends on the Judge as I have been saying. If he/she is rational I will get far. If he/she is a homosexualist then will end up as we are today inverted and oppressed.

                    • Pollos Hermanos

                      Wow, so all those randomly assigned judges appointed by presidents from both parties ruling for same sex couples must be the equivalent of picking the correct Power Ball numbers then.

                      What are the odds that so many various legal professionals with differing judicial outlooks would come to the exact same conclusions.

                      Magic!

                    • Sign

                      Oh yea, because the low intellectual wattage boys in black robes are immune from politics and social pressure. Sell that to your propaganda crew we are not that credulous or stupid.

                • Watosh

                  When you say “Catholic backed laws banning same sex marriage lack rational basis …” Robert R. Reilly, in his book “Making Gay Okay,” does provide a rational basis for banning same sex marriage for those who retain the ability to think logically in this benighted country which holds that a person’s sexual identity is what that person decides it is, rather than their biological makeup which science had always used to determine sexuality in the past for all forms of life. As far as such laws being “unconstitutional,” I note they were considered Constitutional for a couple hundred years. Some error. Wasn’t it George W. Bush who said the Constitution is nothing more than a scrap of paper? Many hold the Constitution is a “living document” that gradually changes meanings over time. If that is the case then how can one decide whether to like or not like the Constitution when it can change oct time? I might like what it says today , but not like what it says tomorrow. I must confess that since the Constitution was created by imperfect men, I am not inclined to regard it as a sacred writ that must be worshipped.

    • Thomas

      Hombre111 shows up for the late shift. Sit down and enjoy some wafers, grape juice, and pleasant conversation. Hermanos + Hombres = Hheresy

  • isabel Kilian

    Jesus came to bring a sword and not peace. The Church is warlike in nature and Her children are all called and obligated to fight against evil. Glad the Archbishop is fulfilling his duty to God and souls. We need many more just like him.

    • fredx2

      I think you missed most of the message of the New Testament. There are other parts, you know.But I agree with you on your evaluation of Cordileone.

      • isabel Kilian

        I think you do not know your Catholic Faith, God or the Chruch. Well, since we are all offering our opinions of each other… I thought I might offer mine.

    • BeingSavedByGrace

      Jesus’ words are like a sword that cuts any and everything away that is not Truth, but He is also The KING of PEACE. Chaos and war does not come from God, but from Satan, although sometimes we have to rise and fight the good fight.
      You are correct in saying that the Church is warlike in nature against evil, that is why she is the Dispenser of the Sacraments; the best weapons to fight Satan.

      • isabel Kilian

        Being, Have you ever even heard of the title given to a newly Confirmed soul? Does this ring a bell with you (Soldier of Christ)? Why do you suppose a soul that is newly confirmed receives this new title from the Church? Why don’t these newly confirmed souls receive the title of peacemaker instead of soldier? I believe it is because for thousands of years now, the Catholic Church has been under constant attack from outside and from within. She is like as Claudel says so elequently “a beseiged city and to defend her is not the work of children”. That is why we are soldiers of Christ fighting always against the evils of the world. We are not here to leave the world in peace because it’s peace is evil! We are here to convert souls to christ, to rip them out of the jaws of the devil and of hell itself.

        The Church is not a place of repose where people enter to escape the persecution of the world! The Church is here to give you your sword and the gifts of the Holy Spirit to FIGHT! You are the salt of the earth. And Jesus said, if the salt loses its flavor, it is good for nothing!

        Again, Paul Claudel reminds us when he says “Know church of God, your business is to FIGHT! There will never be peace without Truth and there will never be Truth outside of Christ our King who we Serve as soldiers.

        • WSquared

          There’s a phrase that Simcha Fisher penned recently, reflecting on the Confirmation of one of her daughters: that those who are Confirmed are “part of an army that intends to win.”

      • isabel Kilian

        We are soldiers of Christ for a reason. Have you never heard the terms spiritual warfare, soldiers of Christ, battling evil? That is our job. To fight!

        • DeeBeeCooper

          Church Militant

  • Tony

    It’s all about sex, and the continuing disintegration of the family and the reduction of the Church to irrelevance. That’s all that so-called “progress” and “liberalism” is now about — so that all that will remain are the all-competent State and its managers in politics and business, and the “free” individual, alienated from history, tradition, nature, local loyalties, the family, reason, and faith.

    • openheart

      Tony you’re absolutely right. Isn’t it strange how we know have to prove men are men and women are women by biological and scientific means? In many countries nowadays Psychologists are obliged to say people are born gay and can never change. If they say they can, they can be arrested for homophobic thought crime. It is not a game we’re playing. The very last days are upon us and people are being raised to hate Christians now in preparation for the day of the Anti-Christ. Many prophecies like the Jews returning to Jerusalem are being fulfilled today. As Christ told us, “Watch and Pray” for the Coming of the Lord is at hand.

  • FrankW

    Is this the same archbishop that permitted Pelosi to be photographed washing feet during the Holy Thursday Mass this past April, in his diocese?

    Her public stances on life issues are well known, and have been for decades, as being diametrically opposed to Catholic doctrine. There is no reasonable way she could possibly be viewed as a Catholic in good standing with the Church. The archbishop should have, long before now, taken her aside and counseled her to stay away from receiving the Eucharist until her viewpoints publicly change.

    Any public association on Church matters with Pelosi (and other so-called Catholic politicians who publicly dissent from Church teaching) by this archbishop or any Catholic cleric is a mistake. This allows Pelosi to feign being in good standing with the Church in an attempt to make herself look good. I would have hoped that by now, our Church leaders would come to realize this, and quit allowing themselves to be used for this type of deception.

    • Luke

      Pelosi did the foot washing stunt in an episcopalian church with their “bishop”, not Archbishop Cordileone.

      • FrankW

        Thanks for correcting me on that.

  • Florian

    June 17th…Pelosi is really really going rabid…and yet she is considered a Catholic in good standing with the Church. Next, she will have faithful Bishops,religious and lay people put in prison and flogged…evil has eaten away at her soul and she is shriveling up within and without…who can reach her before it’s too late???? If she had been told not to receive the Eucharist because she aggressively promotes, aids and abets the mass slaughter of human babies in the womb, she might have been jolted enough to see the light, but she thinks the leaders of the Church are fools and that some Church teaching is archaic…the Bishops absolutely need to call a stop to her aggressive and continued persecution of the Church and her promoting – not ‘accepting – but promoting the mass slaughter of human babies in the womb…for the good of her own soul!!! To allow her to continue on the path she is on is to affirm her in her sin…

    • DE-173

      Are you the “Florian” that used to post on Tech Central Stationn/TCS daily before its demise?

  • thomistica

    Good work in exposing these manipulative organizations with their innocuous-sounding but very misleading titles.

    • Anne Hendershott

      Thank you Thomistica- That is the hardest part for researchers because these “new organizations” actually look “new” – The best way to identify them is to look closely at their board members and their personnel – they cannot as easily change their personal names. The people’s names – the usual suspects–and the funding stay the same – just the organization’s name changes as they add a few more. Worrisome that this new Evangelical (Wallis)/Catholic group has more power than ever before. Reminds me of a monster that gets stronger by consuming others. Brilliant of them to hire Gehring – the former USCCB media guy– to be their Catholic hack.

      • DE-173

        There was a time when 501c’s were required to disclose major contributors.

        It was always interesting to read. Off topic Example, Mothers against Drunk Driving was always the beneficiary of the insurance industry. Money doesn’t talk, it screams.

  • openheart

    Who is promoting hatred? Pelosi suggests those in favour of marriage between opposite sexes is promoting hatred? I thought marriage was a union between two people who loved each-other? Why is Pelosi allowed to promote hatred against opposite sex couples? Why can’t more children be brought up knowing both their natural father and natural mother? Why is this right being denied them for the sake of a self-promoting narcissism?

  • MarkRutledge

    Faithful America: “Listen Lord, for your servant speaketh.”

  • DE-173

    Actually, Pelosi should have a meeting with Father Amorth or his successor.

  • http://eisbrener.info/blog Michael Eisbrener

    Ignoring the real problem, hiding it or denying its existence lets the game continue. The puppet show keeps the crowds amused. The churches and especially the Catholic Church in the USA work for and do the governments bidding. As long as the ‘go along to get along’ mantra keeps everyone in line the church’s get to keep their 501c (3) designation. Concerned the IRS will come or some other 3-letter GOV designation will keeps
    everyone in line or in jail. What needs doing may no longer save the patient. The will of God appears relentless. There are enough life rafts for the few who choose to use them.

    • DE-173

      The state is a jealous god.

    • RufusChoate

      I agree. I have told every Bishop who has the misfortune to be introduced to me to drop their diocese’s tax exempt status and start punching their weight to preach the Gospel boldly and unafraid along with shutting down failing parishes en masse. Cultural Catholics and non-Catholic that use our schools for advancement need to find meaningful preaching of the truth not generic pablum.

  • Dave

    It’s long past time to excommunicate frauds like Nancy Pelosi.

  • gildad

    I may be wrong but I seem to recall that Pelosi’s foot washing was at an Episcopal service.

    • Anne Hendershott

      You are right – she washed the feet on Holy Thursday at an Episcopal service. I was hoping she might stay there!

      • DE-173

        You assume they’d have her.

  • HughieMc

    Call me cynical, but looking at this from the older side of the Pond, I have to ask is it any coincidence that John Gehring, Nick Sementelli, Tom Perriello, Alexia Kelly, Tom Chabolla, Greg Galluzzo and Sister Simone Campbell and others now devoting their time to attacking the Church they once proudly claimed to be part of are now being so excessively well paid? Which pay will pall in comparison to what lies ahead for La Pelosi

  • fredx2

    For Pelosi to urge an Archbishop not to attend a political rally is about as un-American as you can get. For Pelosi to try and demonize the opposition as being full of “venom” is deeply disgusting. Only in communist countries do public officials use their offices to try to keep people from exercising their rights of assembly and association. If there is anything America stands for, it is encouragement of each side to organize and push their views in the public arena. When public officials try to demonize their opponents and accuse them of being “hate groups” watch out. When public officials move to stamp out freedom of speech, look out.
    And when public officials try to do this to religious figures – covered by the First Amendments’ free exercise of religion” clause, watch out.
    Something very bad is in the air.

  • Father George

    In view of the great weight of the evidence of the “catechesis” offered by Culture-of-Death politicians, the word courageous can now be given to a bishop when words and actions are taken that truly counter these scandals. I know that there’s some fancy footwork made to NOT invoke canon 915 by some bishops. Why? If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, and looks like a duck …. then it is a duck. Canon 915 is meant to be applied to protect the faithful and give the unfaithful pause, in light of their own salvation. Personally, I’ll call Archbishop Cordileone courageous when the “dialogue” word is dropped and the possibility of 915 is, at least, raised. At this point, it still sounds like the tail is able to wag the dog.

    • David M Paggi

      Father:

      In principle, I entirely agree; for many years I felt the same way. In practical application however, I very reluctantly have come to believe that resorting to canon 915 would prove disastrously counterproductive to its real purpose.

      The distinctions between canon law and political pressure, concern for souls and desire for power, or the medicinal nature of the canonical sanction and an improper attempt at influencing civil policy are completely lost on a relativist press corps which sees all issues through a political lens.

      Those who have no concern for their own souls, much less that of anyone else,
      simply have no means to comprehend the real purpose of a legitimate attempt to
      use canon 915. They are even less prepared to understand why the Church
      protects the Eucharist, so they would see it as throwing their favorite politician out of what to them seems little more than a social club, merely for not toeing the party line. We should recall that the more that people are invested in political correctness, the less they will tolerate even the existence of conflicting views, and even less the (heretical to them) concept that such views could have any legitimate place in the public square. These are the same people promoting the dangerously subtle meme that “freedom of worship” is all that is meant by the terse but eloquent phrase “free exercise thereof” in the First Amendment.

      Consequently, rather than seeing it for the pastoral exercise it is, even a threatened excommunication would very likely be condemned as a overreaching attempt by the Church to influence the political process via what to their eyes would appear to be an outrageous use of the Church’s authority over her members. Even if there are some in the press who would be able to discern and articulate the matter accurately, I believe few would be sympathetic enough to run the risks inherent in telling the truth (a frequently hazardous occupation), and even fewer would be able to get such a view published with any real visibility.

      This matter reveals in stark terms the weakness that has resulted from decades
      of tepid catechesis. Far too few of the faithful have the means or inclination to understand and accept the Church’s teaching, and even fewer are sufficiently
      grounded in apologetics to explain and defend her teaching even to her members, much less her critics. Here can be seen the bitter fruit of the wholesale
      rejection of the Church’s teaching authority which followed the 1968 publication of the remarkably prophetic encyclical of Pope Paul VI, “Humane Vitae”.

      • Father George

        Much of what you say makes sense. However, I politely disagree with you saying “disastrously counterproductive.” Yes, I’m certain it would create a lot of heat in the secular press and in political circles …. but it would create more light within the Church. Salvation of souls is what the Church is ultimately about, and that point needs to trump everything else.

        That being said, I wholeheartedly agree that much goes back to 1968 and Humane Vitea …. much before and much after …. but that was the touchstone moment for how some Catholics would start moving toward hedonism and casting their birth right aside like Esau, for a moment of pleasure. So many strands to consider, but that moment was certainly a touchstone. And now the chickens are coming home to roost, where the politically minded sheep are telling the bishops where the gospel lies. God help us all.

        • David M Paggi

          Father:

          Thank you so much for your gracious reply. Of course you are right; the Church must first and always preach the truth, in season and out of season, regardless of the difficulties her boldness must inevitably attract. Your point about light vs heat is spot on; placing the light on a stand illumines both the truth and the obstacles in our path while putting it under a bushel basket would only temporarily contain its heat before it eventually catches fire and burns down the house with it.

          I suppose this is another case of the “pearl of great price” or perhaps a better figure is that pursuing the one lost sheep is worth the temporarily increased risk to the 99 in the herd.

          Having said that, we should be wise as serpents, first by recognizing just how formidable are the forces arrayed against us and responding in a way that neutralizes their strength. When the politicians had the perfect trap for Our Blessed Lord, He turned the coin against them, “Render unto Cesar…”

          We should not underestimate the hostility the political class, the media, the academy, entertainment, and far too many in our own ranks hold towards the truth the Church teaches. Therefore we must prepare to present our case using our own means (the press absolutely will not do this job for us); our investment must be commensurate with the dangers we face.

          Let’s pray that the point man to lead this campaign is found and sufficiently empowered to accomplish this monumental task. The bishops generally are too busy, too holy, or too nice to do this for themselves. The late Lee Atwater comes to mind; while not a perfect model, he was closer to the need at hand than I believe is commonly recognized.

          One must have a genuine demolition expert on hand before igniting powerful explosives. Something new to pray for?

  • Bill Russell

    Regardless of how the Holy See tried to backtrack and “explain” what Pope Francis meant when he asked “Who am I to judge?” the plain fact is that the comment was an unmitigated disaster.

    • DE-173

      Agreed.

      We should pray that as a man trained in Chemistry he realizes that Jesuitical casuistry and garroulessness make for for a volatile and perhaps fissile mixture.

  • Objectivetruth

    I’ve always appreciated simple math equations:

    Nancy Pelosi + her public heretical beliefs. = Public excommunication

  • Don Campbell

    Yes, but the George Soros funded “progressives” firmly believe that the universe changed with the election of a new Pope who is on their side. They are jubilant and feel that the tide has turned because the weight of the Papacy is behind them with our new Progressive Pope. They may not be fully justified in that belief, but I assure you they are feeling vindicated and triumphal. We desperately need a letter from the Pope singling out these organizations as un-Catholic and warning the faithful to stay away from them. That would clear all this nonsense up, but it won’t happen. Why not, one must ask?

  • Maria Perez

    I agree with Father George, I would hesitate to call Archbishop Cordileone courageous just yet. Enough with the insipid dialogue already. Pastors are supposed to protect and defend their sheep, but ours are afraid of the sheep. The woman looks and sounds possessed. She is the “venomous heretic masquerading as a Catholic” and no one speaks to her as they really should. She is the real hater!! She claims to belong to a faith that she neither follows nor believes in. Her fruit is rotten to the core but she is allowed to keep selling it. She needs to be told not to present herself for Holy Communion anymore, if not for the sake of her soul, then for the ones who are following her example. Do bishops not care for their flocks anymore? Do they not love the Eucharist that so many others have died to defend? Do they not believe the Word of God that tells them they will be responsible for the sheep that are lost? Enough is enough. Choose a side! Dialogue is worthless, it’s meaningless if it is not followed with action. Our Lord asked if he would find faith on earth when he returned. More and more it’s becoming clear he’ll find very little.

    • DeeBeeCooper

      Only someone who HATES children would lie to women by telling them that it’s ok to torture, dismember and butcher children in their most vulnerable natural state, when it’s easy and no one who cares can witness the barbaric act.

  • JoAnne Braley

    Dear Lord, some people should be burned at the stake. It would be wondrous, indeed, if Nancy Pelosi burst into fire, human combustion, right at the podium. Oh well, I’m supposed to love everyone. However, she does look like a witch. And, the little 8-yr. old girl didn’t think of that, someone put her up to showing a different gender in Catholic School. My gosh, we got sent out of school and expelled for way less. Kick her out, Please, Catholics, stick together, don’t go wandering about in the “New World Order,” you may not have a mansion in heaven if you do.

    • DE-173

      “It would be wondrous, indeed, if Nancy Pelosi burst into fire, human combustion, right at the podium.”
      No, because there’d be a legion of idiots blaming George Bush or the Koch Brothers.
      Would be be really great is if something caused her to shriek and convulse as the unclean spirit(s) left her.

      • tamsin

        to shriek and convulse as the unclean spirit(s) left her Why Adam, you are growing positively merciful in your old age.

        • DE-173

          “Why Adam, you are growing positively merciful in your old age.”
          In the words of one of the the late John Wayne’s characters, Not hardly.

  • JP

    Coming soon to a San Fran Parish near you – Pelosi will demand her office approve all of the dioceses homilies.

  • RufusChoate

    The really fantastic point about the Left’s attacks on the perennial teachings of the Church is how no matter what the deleterious and disastrous outcomes of their policies, they suffer no consequence for their follies in this life. Many of these amoral simpletons in the Church have a history of colossal errors of judgement for fads that have undermined their authority and cost the church Billions in settlements for claims abuse by the actions of Homosexuals that they at one time repeatedly assured us could live holy celibate lives with a little therapy and support. Today much to the delight of anti-catholic enemies of the Church every Catholic Priest is a child rapist and the Bishops criminally corrupt while the entire culture is fundamentally worse off but ignored

    The same crowd is now telling us that Homosexuality deserves to be considered normative and beneficial for the individual and the Society when that is clearly and objectively false. No thriving culture sustained any level of homosexuality above the fringe of 2%. It is a corrupting and debilitating contagion.

    Pelosi is objectively a failure as both a obedient and Theologically conversant Catholic and as a Politician who had two cycles of democratic victories in the Congressional races eradicated in a single cycle, her method of political rule has bankrupted the nation and her support for objectively evil programs that harm society is without parallel.

    • Desert Sun Art

      And still the Left, while favoring homosexuality as normal and SSM, are the most vicious in their constant complaining and bringing up the sex abuse scandal, which to them had nothing to do with homosexual priests.

    • Tony

      Yes, they have promoted policies that have devastated the people they purported to assist. No apologies. The hatred grows in proportion as the policies fail.

  • allessandra frederique

    as original ethnic outreach specialist/community organizor woman,inc.sf,ca…seperation of church and state MS. PELOSI (grazi) enjoyed speaking to your assistant for well over 15 yrs @womens bldg. function

  • mollysdad

    Nanci Pelosi is a woman who calls evil good and good evil. What a witch!

  • TERRY

    I don’t know about the rest of you, but this looks to me an awful lot like separating the wheat from the chaff.

    As the old song goes, which side are you on?

  • TERRY

    Please offer your next Rosary for the grace of contrition for the catholic (small c) politicians who have betrayed their faith for political gain.

  • thebigdog

    Leftism is a religion and its members often use Catholicism as a prop.

  • Tim S.

    Why are people (including he himself) referring to Mr. Roy Bourgeois as “Fr.”? He was dismissed from the Maryknollers and also laicized by the Vatican a few years ago, wasn’t he?

  • TERRY

    It still boggles my mind that Nancy D’Alesandro – daughter of Mayor Thomas – and George Weigel grew up in Baltimore (Ballamer) in the 50s.

    Did they ever meet?

    I remember those days – Pope John XXIII was referred to with much love – “Johnny Unite Us”.

    Anyone remember that?

    She needs our prayers. After all the snaky remarks – she needs our prayers.

    • Sign

      She does need prayers and so do those in authority over her. Snarky perhaps but they are borne out of frustration and concern for immortal souls.

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  • WI Catholic

    I have read the letter included in one of the links, but cannot find Pelosi’s name (I may just be missing it). I have tried to find it elsewhere. Am I missing it? I do not doubt that she contacted him on this issue at all. I firmly believe she deserves public excommunication. But I’d love to read what she wrote in order to show others…

    • Gary Adrian

      She was not a signatory of this letter but wrote her own letter to the good Bishop. This is especially damning on her part.

      As far as excommunication, it always is portrayed in such an ‘evil’ light when in fact ‘excommunication’ is actually designed to wake a Catholic up to how far they have wandered away from God, to force them to come back to God, and to protect the rest of the Church. If this loving discipline were used more, we wouldn’t have nearly the problems in the Church that we do.

      • WI Catholic

        Thank you, Gary. Yes I understand about excommunication, and tend to agree with you. But then, when I say this, I’ve been told that it would only backfire (politically). I am much more concerned with those who hear her and follow her, as well as Nancy herself (and others who talk but don’t walk Catholicism), than I am about elections, even though it is vital, IMHO, to elect better than we have now!!

        It is her letter that I’d love to read, but cannot find. God bless!

        • Gary Adrian

          Yes, I have heard that argument before but how well has it worked so far. Soon they will be putting priests in prison because of openly condemning of sodomy as has occurred in Canada already. They are already forcing hospitals to kill babies or be fined/shut down. I think people are like big children, they get away with what they can until they get caught. Look at the highway, the average speed in a 55 zone in our city is 60 plus, why, because they can get away with it. If politicians were lovingly disciplined early on for their actions and words, we wouldn’t be at the point where they are actually working against the Church.

          80 years ago none of this would have been tolerated by the hierarchy and 80% attended mass weekly and 90% agreed with every major belief of the church. Today 25% attend mass and 45% percent believe every major belief of the church. These politicians and the media are leading many Catholics AWAY from the narrow path that leads to everlasting life and the wide path leading to destruction.

          • WI Catholic

            Oh, how much I agree with you!!

          • croixmom

            Gary, Unfortunately, it seems that standing down very rarely allows one to regain the ground that has been seized. Standing down is only a sign of weakness. That our position is negotiable. Make no mistake: The attacks against the Church and against the institutions in our country have nothing whatsoever to do with so-called same-sex marriage or with so-called abortion “rights”, or any of the other attacks. It is ultimately a battle of evil against Good.
            The climate that resulted in the Cristeros War in Mexico nearly a century ago seems dangerously probable in our nation today.

            • Gary Adrian

              So very True!

  • cookieusn

    When will the Bishops get the intestinal fortitude to excommunicate the so called “catholics”, get rid of Pelosi, Cuomo etc. Then maybe the Morman church will follow suite with getting rid of Reid. Let us lead by example this time not words.

    • Sign

      In all sincerity is it really lack of fortitude? Perhaps, but that is viewing it under the best possible light.

      If any one knew their child was headed for certain disaster, and taking other kids with them, what parent would drag their heels and make excuses? No decent parent. Now think about eternal souls and ask those questions of those with even greater responsibility. It is a dramatic thought.

  • Florian

    June 17th…Pelosi is really really
    going rabid…and yet she is considered a Catholic in good standing with the
    Church. Next, she will have faithful Bishops,religious and lay people put
    in prison and flogged…evil has eaten away at her soul and she is shriveling
    up within and without…who can reach her before it’s too late???? If she
    had been told not to receive the Eucharist because she aggressively promotes,
    aids and abets the mass slaughter of human babies in the womb, she might have
    been jolted enough to see the light, but she thinks the leaders of the Church
    are fools and that some Church teaching is archaic…the Bishops absolutely
    need to call a stop to her aggressive and continued persecution of the Church
    and her promoting – not ‘accepting – but promoting the mass slaughter of human
    babies in the womb…for the good of her own soul!!! To allow her to
    continue on the path she is on is to affirm her in her sin…

    • Thomas

      I think it is time that we stop making the assumption that Pelosi and “Catholics” mentioned in the article have any serious views about faith in general and Roman Catholicism in particular. Like so many people who call themselves Catholic, they’re only interested in the title, like an academic degree or letters following their names.

  • ab

    EXCOMMUNICATE.

  • Anselm

    “Still, no one should imagine that these attacks, so heavily funded by
    non-Catholic sources, reflect the views of faithful Catholics. This is
    why even a well-funded dissident minority cannot ultimately weaken a
    church that is united and confident in its teachings and mission and,
    most importantly, enjoys divine protection.”

    Unfortunately, I think the “dissident minority” is really a “dissident majority”. And, it does not appear that our Church is united and confident in its teachings and mission. Bishop Lynch’s summary of the Synod Survey for his diocese, among other current happenings, happens to present a dissident majority.

    Thank God for that divine protection! But it will be a lot worse before it gets better.

    • Thomas

      When Jesus said the road to Heaven was narrow, he must have meant that so few would be on it. When it comes to matters of faith in this country, when I see the majority headed in one direction, I know I am on the right path when I am going in the opposite direction.
      And when Moses came down from the mountain, what did he think when he saw the hordes in rebellion below?
      Not much has changed, as far as disobedience and short-memories of the power of God almighty.

      • Nesbyth

        Good point!

  • Matt

    Democrats hate Christianity. Democrats actually hate God. Democrats desire to take the place of God. The Democrat Party is wholly owned by Satan.

  • cristo52

    Catholic politician? That is a politician who bases his or her beliefs on Roman Catholic doctrine? Or perhaps a politician who happens to be Catholic and naturally leads Catholics? Or one who was born Catholic, supports abortion and leads very few people of any religion? Which Nancy Pelosi are we talking about?

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  • Derek Schramm

    “…a well-funded dissident minority cannot ultimately weaken a church that is united…” Unity??? I wish I could share your optimism. Parents failing to raise their children in faith and morals weakens the church then add to that the public school system (and some Catholic schools) and now leftist attack groups. Future looks bleak, but I’ll be at the NOM rally cheering for Brian Brown and Bishop Salvatore Cordileone.

  • Tony

    I wish the proponents of square circles would but acknowledge a couple of things:

    1. What they wish is a complete revolution in culture, severing marriage from sexual nature;
    2. They propose to give to the State not just the authority to place conditions upon marriage, such as how old you have to be, how nearly you may be related, and so on, but a god-like authority to determine what marriage IS;
    3. Or the question “What is a marriage?” has no meaning, because in fact the world itself is meaningless.

    I wish they’d admit it at least. Not that that will make them right. A man CAN no more marry a man than he CAN have genuine sexual intercourse with a man, or than he CAN eat corn on the cob by sticking it in his ear, or that he CAN oxygenate his blood with cyanide, or that he CAN multiply two by two and come up with five. Not all the black-robed justices in the world can change a FACT; nor all the pretty make-believes; and we can only deny nature at our peril.

    • Sign

      They will not do it because their desire is to ape marriage. They want affirmation of their desires and behaviors above all else. They think it will give them peace. It is that simple.

      • DeeBeeCooper

        yes… affirmations of their FEELINGs.

    • DeeBeeCooper

      You cannot break the (moral) law… you can only break yourself against it.

      ~ Stephen Covey (even thoughtful mormons know this)

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  • cpsho

    Can someone tell Ms Pelosi:
    “any Catholic who accepts homosexuality as something good, or something
    normal, or something to be embraced, or something to be celebrated, or
    something to be promoted, or something to be condoned, or something to
    be practiced, will never enter the Kingdom of our Lord Jesus Christ. Because that Catholic has disregarded all the warnings – spanning over 4000 years of testimony –
    of the holy servants of God.”
    http://popeleo13.com/pope/2014/06/17/category-archive-message-board-58/#more-491
    PS: Ms Pelosi we are praying for your repentance.

  • leoni bernard

    Thanks for listing the progressive leaders launching this attack, particularly, the national director of that miserable Gamaliel Foundation, Mr. Galluzzo

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  • JohnServorum

    According to the best research currently available, only 1.7% of Americans are homosexual.
    For such a very tiny minority they seem remarkably capable of dominating the conversation in the public square, even to the point of commanding constant TV, radio and Internet airplay and daily coverage in every major newspaper and magazine in the country.
    Anyone who wonders how this came about should seriously consider reading the book,

    “After the Ball: How America Will Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90′s” by Marshall Kirk.
    More than 24 years ago Kirk laid out the details of the homosexual agenda that have had such a corrosive effect on our society even to the extent that marriage, the basic building block of any society, is now being attacked by clueless, heretical fallen-away Catholics like Nancy Pelosi.
    Honestly, when it comes to understanding the future of the United States and our place in God’s providence, this is as serious as it gets.

    • Anselm

      There is another good book that outlines this strategy: The Marketing of Evil – by David Kupelian.

      • JohnServorum

        Thank you for the recommendation.

  • ForChristAlone

    Some day the bishops will wake up about CCHD, CRS and all the jokers who work for them. Let’s face it, the bishops do NOT run the USCCB; the staffers do. The bishops are puppets. Let’s pray for their immortal souls.

    • Sign

      Who hires the staffers and who is responsible?

  • http://www.catholicsciencemonitor.com/ Matthew C. Masotti

    Power from money is no match against power from on high.

  • croixmom

    I would like to sign a letter of support for Archbishop Cordileone. He is one of the most prayerful, holy men I have ever seen. We need so many more like him!
    I wish I had known about this march. It is definitely something to support.

  • croixmom

    It has long been my opinion that Nancy Pelosi is absolutely one of the stupidest people alive today. Each and every time she takes the stage, she reinforces my opinion.

  • bonaventure

    N.B.: This is a re-post from a reply below, but it’s worth posting it independently

    My not-so-dear liberal enemies,

    Did you know that one important court ruling stands out as a precedent against homosexual “marriage”? Of course, all homosexualist activists absolutely want this ruling to be forgotten and buried…

    Yet, it is because of this court ruling, that one State (which has since legalized homosexual “marriage”) had not choice but to do it through the legislative way.

    And the most frustrating for liberals in that State were/are two facts:

    (1) that they had to wait years since this particular court ruling to pull the needed numbers in the legislature to redefine marriage. Additionally, it was very difficult to get a majority, and most frustratingly for the liberals, the great majority of minorities (BIacks and Hispanics especially) opposed this legislative re-definition of marriage;

    and

    (2) that the current legislation redefining marriage in that State can be changed back in the future to what is was before, without being unconstitutional, since the original court ruling made it very clear that marriage between one man and one woman exclusively is constitutional.

    Of course, one of the most interesting facts about this court case, is that it was ruled on a State level, and was never overturned. In fact, it still stands — hence this State’s need to wait and legislate change, rather than socially engineer it via a forced court fiat. Worst of all for the liberals, the very fact that they legislated change, means that they had to recognize this ruling as valid.

  • http://www.commieblaster.com/ Paul Ben

    >>Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), the U. S. House of Representatives Minority Leader, and one of the most powerful Catholic politicians in the United States,…<<

    EXCUSE-ME????

    "CATHOLIC"????

    PELOSI???

    Enough. I read the title and this unfinished sentence. That's it.

    Pelosi and others like her always remind me that there is a GOD because EVIL exists.

    And that God, at the end, will never let evil (Pelosi and the like) win.

  • I_M_Forman

    Pelosi opens her mouth and Cardinal Burke states that she should not be allowed to receive communion. Open your mouth once again and perhaps you”ll end up excommunicated. Hell isn’t half full.

  • windjammer

    The problem with Church “leadership” is that there is really no strong, clear Church Leadership to speak off….unless you want the “warm and fuzzies” of the “mercy without justice” nonsense. The shepherds have been emasculated and feminized. It’s all about too much estrogen and “social justice” without the personal responsibility. Throw in the politicians control the money, the Church is addicted to public funds, the wholesale retreat of the OTF after V2, and the only surprise is that the collapse of the Church didn’t happens sooner.

  • Thomas Sharpe

    “this is why even a well-funded dissident minority cannot ultimately weaken a church that is united and confident in its teachings and mission and, most importantly, enjoys divine protection.”

    I agree that there is a well-funded dissident minority, but unfortunately there is a majority of catholic’s that just flop along with the culture, who use contraception, who have never heard an sermon on contraception.. and it is there that the State will strike and has..

    We’ll know soon what the “Supreme’s” will rule, whether Caesar’s decree will stand, and then how an uninformed, untaught, unchaste (?) majority will react.

    .

  • AugustineThomas

    We are fighting Satan and his minions, whatever the leftist at your church tells you about “divisive abortion rhetoric”.

  • Gary Adrian

    Hasn’t anyone noticed the most telling statement that ‘John Gehring, formerly the Assistant Director of Media Relations at the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops’. Yes, this man along with thousands of others work for dioceses and the USCCB and in that position tear down the Church from the inside. Then when more money calls, they leave for the Democratic party or party organizations (not that the Republican party is much better but at least it isn’t attacking the Church).

    Yes, these liberals within the Church purport to love their fellow man, support outreach to alienated groups like divorced, homosexuals, etc. Yet when the chips are down, they will stab God in the back at the blink of an eye. When will we learn that our first command by Jesus Christ was to make disciples of all the nations. We can combine that first command with his call for us to be willing to give all for our brother whom we love only secondarily to God. (Rarely do we notice that the scripture refers to ‘brothers’ or fellow Catholics first.)

    If only we would truly practice the real ‘New Evangelization’ and make disciples of first wayward Catholics, then the nations outside the Church. As with any discipline of a child, bringing wayward Catholics back can be done with a stick or a carrot. The stick is ban of communion, excommunication, and so forth but is almost never used. The carrot is to draw them to the Church which Pope Francis emphasizes so well. But we have only used the carrot for the last fifty years with disastrous results, maybe we can start using the stick a little.

    • Guest

      Is not the first order of business to determine if the people who hired him think his beliefs are wrong or right? He is not the first to work for the bishops and be at odds with the faith. I mean really.

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  • ron a.

    These groups are supported and perpetuated more by the “who am I to judge” language than they are Soros’ money. When is the Church going to recognize this ‘existential’ threat and stop trying to appease these people. As much as they talk, they want power not the euphonious “dialogue”. Unfortunately, the time to take a stand is probably long past. All these years they have been playing ‘hard ball’, while the Church has been playing (only God knows why) ‘whiffle ball’.

  • http://www.federaleagent86.blogspot.com/ Federale

    I don’t think they are motivated by “effective” opposition to such issues by the heirarchy. Their opposition has been ineffective, as in California and San Francisco, there is no leadership and Catholic politicians like Pelosi openly support homosexual marriage and abortion. Effective would mean excommunicating Pelosi and Newsom.

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  • BillinJax

    If nothing else this episode illustrates just how far the so called Church Militant, that’s us folks, have retreated and allowed progressive catholics (little C) to use modern liberal language and political correctness to gain the upper hand in defining the where and how our doctrines and teachings should be inserted into or denied entry to our culture. Also it tells us we can no longer sit on the sidelines in the battle against moral relativism.

    “Who is going to save our Church? Not our bishops, not our priests and
    religious. It is up to you, the people. You have the minds, the eyes, the ears
    to save the Church. Your mission is to see that your priests act like priests,
    your bishops, like bishops, and your religious act like religious.”
    —-Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen, before the Knights of Columbus,
    June 1972

  • Jim Boyd

    when he was arrested for drunk driving….there was a young man in the car…who was he?
    what was he doing there? why did his 88 year old mother have to drive the car home?
    why didn’t he serve jail time?

    • Guest

      Why the calumny? If his mother was driving why would he arrested? Who said there was another person in the car?

      Why not stick to the article? What is your propaganda point?

      • Jim Boyd

        he was drunk driving….the “young man” did not drive the car home…he sorta vanished bishop sally went to jail…mom had to drive the car home…some say he protests gay marriage tooooo much

        • Sign

          Where are the sources for these assertions?

          • Anne Hendershott

            There are NO sources – except the vicious falsehoods being spread in the vile gay media. I lived in San Diego for 15 years–taught criminology courses and personally got to know several police officers at the SDPD—I am still in touch with them and spoke with them after this incident. Jim Boyd’s scandalous accusations are untrue and should be removed from this site.

            • Sign

              Thank you. I assumed it was gay propaganda. I agree they should be removed.

              The propagandists will not stop because they crave affirmation at all costs. They think eliminating opposition will quiet their divided consciences. It will not.

          • Jim Boyd

            google cordileone drunk driving…
            he even jokes about getting a DUI…
            what if he had killed someone….

            • Sign

              The issue is the other assertion you made. Be honest.

              • Jim Boyd

                dig more into the issue….a cover up….

                • Sign

                  Prove it.

                  • Jim Boyd

                    prove what? that you are in a cult….your parents were catholic,
                    if you have kids…your are raising them catholic…
                    just watched the bishop at the march on washington….hope he stays in the closet…

                    • ForChristAlone

                      What you say is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself.

                    • ForChristAlone

                      You are looking for God in other men; it will not happen.

                    • Jim Boyd

                      i was looking for love…not some spooky unproven old book based
                      trivia…and i found HIM…we are going to get married in august…

                    • Objectivetruth

                      Hoorah for you. Now go take your filth elsewhere, your self centered narcissism quota has been reached for the day. Bon chance with your gay bowel syndrome. Bleeding out from a ruptured, bloody rectum so you can anally masterbate with your guy pal ain’t worth it, that’s what the emergency room doc will try and tell you. Maybe after that embarrassing near death experience that “spooky unproven old book” might be worth another look see on your part.

                      But honestly, no one cares. Someday we pray that you’ll work out your salvation with fear and trembling and not make your perversions your god.

                      Until then, go away…..

                    • Sign

                      No, it is impossible for two males to be married. It is a legal fiction.

                    • Sign

                      After reading you putrid posts I have a new admiration for the archbishop. He must have heroic virtue to wake each morning and face the gay lobby in that city. How awful for him.

                      If that good man happens to read any of these comments I hope he knows there are many who support him. I pray he continues to preach the truth.

                    • Sign

                      You have no proof. You are one more propagandist. The only cult I know of is the ” gay” cult. The one that is immature, hedonistic, narcissistic, and effete. Keeping claiming everyone is “gay” as that exposes your pathology.

                    • Jim Boyd

                      tell that to the alder boys and girls…
                      ….and i love you tooooo

                    • Sign

                      The altar boys? you mean the one’s assaulted by the “gay” priests. Got it.

                    • Jim Boyd

                      more gays…would help the population problem
                      more birth control….religion stop pushing for more children…another solution

                    • Sign

                      Typical.

                    • Jim Boyd

                      and your name is?

                    • Sign

                      How does that address the argument?

                    • Jim Boyd

                      do you have a name? or people just call you “C”

                    • Sign

                      Do you have a name other than Legion?

                    • Jim Boyd

                      do you have a name?

                    • Sign

                      Do you have an argument?

                    • Michael Kocian

                      Jim Boyd, I’ll give you $100,000 if you can prove the Catholic Church is false, by proving any dogma or Sacrament to be false… not just your nonsense, but actual proof. The flip side is that for each and very failed attempt you make, you will donate just $1,000 to God’s Catholic Church. Are you man enough? Will you put your money where your lying mouth is? Man up!

            • Anne Hendershott

              We all know Archbishop Cordileone made a mistake and drank too much wine at a family party. He was stopped at a checkpoint at San Diego State University (near the party he was at with his mother and family). He was cited for DUI but your assertion that there was a boy in the car is not true. It is scandalous to continue spreading that vile rumor that there was a boy in the car -

              • ForChristAlone

                No, Anne, what Boyd says is NOT scandalous. It is a serious mortal sin.

              • Jim Boyd

                so you believe the cover-up
                i have a bridge i would love to sell you…
                funny note: the hate march in washington where “sally” spoke
                about 2000 bused in folks were there…20 years ago i was at the ga

                • Jim Boyd

                  gay rights march on washington…we only had a1,000,000
                  wonder who paid for “sally’s” trip?

                  • Objectivetruth

                    Good. Thanks for clarifying who you are. That you are a gay rights supporter who enjoys lieing.

                  • Sign

                    The cult is the gay lobby that wants to invert society so they do not feel bad about their aberrant desires.

                • Sign

                  Again, you offer no proof only calumny. Father of lies?

              • Sign

                The Legion lashes out in unjust anger. It is as old as the world.

                Thank you for your work. I am sure you take flack for it. You are one of the few voices left that speaks the truth to power. Keep going.

  • IamKido

    As a new Catholic, I am disappointed with how the bishops are handling Pelosi. What are they afraid of? They double-speak like politicians. I believe Cardinal George made a public statement that really required follow-up from the Archbishop. What happened?

  • TERRY

    It looks as if the battle is being joined.

    Which side are you on?

    We here in the pews might do our part by not capitalizaing the word ‘Catholic’ when referring to such as Kerry, Biden, Pelosi and Sebelius, O’Malley of Maryland, and all those people who signed the letter to the ArchBishop. .

    These ‘catholicsare getting bolder and bolder and we have to stand up to them, including in our own parishes.

  • Pam

    Silky, I believe it is because of misguided compassion. The phrase one hears is “pastoral approach”. Since the person thinks they are Catholic and since so many are poorly catechized, some Bishops are taking the approach that formally excommunicating them will not help them. Excommunication is a form of help because it is supposed to make the person realize their error and one who is excommunicated can repent and come back to full union with the Church. The thinking now does not seem to reflect Jesus’ teaching. It seems “more merciful than God” if that is possible because it seem to lack justice. Jesus, for instance, did not stop all His followers from leaving Him when they refused to believe they needed to eat His body and drink His blood in the Eucharist (holy communion). He let them all leave. In the story of the prodigal son, the father does not try to bargain with the child but lets him go off and self-destruct, but is ready to receive him back when he is repentant. The last century has been chaotic with the 60′s and many people lost their faith so the Bishops seem to be trying to ease believers back into the true faith and not be the source of losing the little faith they have. Don’t know if that would be Christ’s approach. The problem is when the public leaders are the problem and the question is if they really have faith or are using the faith for political purposes. That’s why it seems Bishops really need to demand a meeting with the Pelosi’s of the world. They are leading a lot of people astray while they find their way back. They should know better. We forget that as much as He loves us, the first commandment is that we love and obey Him in response.

  • Bruno

    Some times I think if Archbishop Chaput is being too tough, too rigid. Or conservatives in general. Don’t get me wrong, I am what can be described as a conservative myself. But examining our conscience seems never to be enough.

    Then comes an organization like Faith in Public Life and, thankfully, draws the line for me. Soros money, pushing 8yr old confused child to be a transgender, disseminating abortion… That makes my job easier! Thanks, John Gering, you give a great service to me and the Church, just not the way you think.

    By their fruits you shall know them!

    • Gary Adrian

      Well, the fruits are pretty obvious in Denver. He left behind a vibrant Church with excited and growing parishes. When he took over it was a failing diocese in every way. Yes, there are a few that will fall away due to ‘toughness’ but as you said, ‘By their fruits you shall know them!’

  • Steve Roberts

    This will only get worse before it gets better. Christ promised us that in the end times, ‘Good will become evil, and evil good’. Those that continue to persecute the Church and God’s holy and natural laws of Life and Marriage as He designed it, will believe they are doing ‘good’. Anyone faithful to God’s laws will be referred to as hate-mongers, and even worse, will head down the road of heavy persecution, fines, imprisonment, and even death. Christ said “take up your cross and follow me”, He didn’t say, get in your comfort zone, stay in the middle, or take the easy road….the price paid to attain heaven is very high, but the reward as Paul says is nothing to be compared to this world!

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  • paul

    What was behind her attacks? Liberty, justice, equality. You know, things all people are supposed to be guaranteed in the Constitution.

    • Ms_Scotty

      “Where are the Catholics of Good Conscience when a child is hungry at school?” Feeding that child; checking on the family; providing food, clothing and housing assistance. “Where are the Catholics of Good Conscience when a woman tries to get an abortion?” Giving that woman and her baby an angel through the Gabriel Project; getting her job training, parenting classes and financial aid, or helping find a loving home for the baby. “Where are the Catholics of Good Conscience when a woman can’t pay her child’s medical bills?” Helping her pay those bills; finding doctors who will work pro bono; caring for others in the family. How do I know? Because that’s what my parish does, and there are thousands of other parishes who do the same. Does that answer your questions?

      • Silky Johnson

        Awesome response. I get tired of libs asking stupid rhetorical questions as if the Church (both as an institution and as a people) are indifferent to suffering. Church has always been and will always be the greatest aid to mankind, but their hatred and hubris blind them to the facts. Exhibit A: Paul’s utterly vacuous post.

        • Ms_Scotty

          Thanks, Silky. I get so tired of those types of questions asked by people who never do any research to find out what it is that Mother Church does 24/7 around the globe to help her children.

          • Michael Kocian

            Ms. Scotty, we need more of you. There seems to be almost unlimited supply of stupidity posted about God’s Church, often by those who dare call their selves Christian, and any false portrayal of God’s Catholic Church obviously doesn’t come from God.

            • Ms_Scotty

              Thank you for your kind words, Michael, and for your wisdom. We must defend Mother Church against false portrayals and those who masquerade as Catholics when it suits their purpose. St. Michael, the Archangel, defend us in battle!

    • Objectivetruth

      Thank you, for all of your strawman arguments.

      And yes….the Church is there, it’s always there.

      You need to stop focusing on your evil, sinful gay agenda, and refocus on Christ’s priorities.

    • Michael Kocian

      paul (yes, to capitalize your name would be to provide undue respect), you’re really funny in a way. You’re so confused, I must have pity on you, but also must blast your stupidity.

      The Church’s charter is to continue the rescue mission of Jesus, as He handed authority and protection to His one Catholic Church. His Catholic Church is bound to speak on matters moral in the public, and that is exactly what she’s doing. Do you think that the Constitution somehow supersedes God’s word? I assure you, it does not. The Church instructs us on the proper use of freedoms (liberty), the proper justice, what authentic equality really is.

      So, to resolve your confusion, I recommend learning about God, instead of decrying His laws and the way He set things up.

  • croixmom

    This is the same Ms. Pelosi who believes her job as a representative to the US House of Representatives, is to “save the planet”.
    Perhaps she should read her job description and try to do her job, rather than to tell others how to do theirs.

    From what I know of Archbishop Cordileone, it seems that he actually knows his job and is doing it. He is one of the most prayerful, peaceful, joy-filled persons I have ever been in the presence of.

    Funny how we are always so quick to tell others how to do their jobs or point to what we perceive as faults or sins of others. What’s that thing about taking the beam out of our own eye?

  • schmenz

    Much of the effectiveness of their attacks against the Church and individual courageous Bishops could be blunted if the Bishops would go on the offensive by naming names and calling a spade a spade (and a sin, a sin). The best defense is an offense and if the Bishops would stop pussyfooting around the issue of, for example, homosexuality by calling it what it truly is, loudly and firmly: a grievous mortal sin that cries to Heaven for vengeance things would get much better in the world and in the Church.. By speaking the truth boldly, and putting aside for once their “nice-nice” approach, they would have these anti-Catholic crazies spluttering.

    The ball is in your court, Your Excellencies.

  • Objectivetruth

    Pope Francis is not afraid to publicly excommunicate, see link below on the Italian Mafia. Heads up, Nance, Joe, Marty, and all you heretical Catholic politicians. The Pope is probably coming to Philadelphia next September, you have 15 months to repent:

    http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2014/06/21/pope-excommunicates-mafia-members/?hpt=hp_t2

    • Thomas

      OT, I am not sure that just because the pope excommunicated the Mafia that the politicians are next. I think he felt this was a safe form of being bold. It will take a lot more courage to go after politicians, especially because some of them are not seen in the same light as the Mafia, even though they should be. In fact, much worse than the Mafia.

      I hope you are correct, and that he has his gun-sights on the pro-aborts and the dissenters.

  • alanaforsyth

    I echo Silky Johnson’s question and would really appreciate an answer. Why haven’t she and others been officially excommunicated?

  • alanaforsyth

    Today, June 21, 2014: http://news.yahoo.com/mafiosi-excommunicated-pope-says-151122053.html;_ylt=AwrBJR_AsaVTY1QAwG7QtDMD

    Mafiosi are ‘excommunicated’, pope says

    SIBARI Italy (Reuters) – Pope
    Francis on Saturday took on one of Italy’s most dangerous organised
    crime groups, calling it an example of “the adoration of evil” and
    saying Mafiosi “are excommunicated”.

    The pope, speaking about the ‘Ndrangheta crime group during a mass in
    the southern Italy, issued the strongest attacks on organised crime
    since the late Pope John Paul lambasted the Sicilian Mafia in 1993.

    “Those who in their lives follow this path of evil, as mafiosi do, are
    not in communion with God. They are excommunicated,” Pope Francis said
    in impromptu comments at a mass before tens of thousands of people.

    He told the crowd: “This evil must be fought against, it must be pushed aside. We must say no to it.”

    He branded the ‘Ndrangheta as the “adoration of evil and contempt of
    the common good” and said the Church would exert its full force in
    efforts to combat organised crime.

    “Our children are asking for it, our young people are asking for it.
    They are in need of hope and faith can help respond to this need,” he
    said.

  • alanaforsyth

    I want to know why Nancy Pelosi and others like her haven’t been excommunicated by their bishops or the pope, too! I don’t know why my earlier post was removed. Maybe because I posted a news story from another site? The pope announced today that the Mafia members were all excommunicated, so why doesn’t he do the same for people who support murdering unborn children?

  • cestusdei

    Pelosi needs excommunicating.

    • Michael Kocian

      Pelosi has excommunicated herself. I’m just waiting for her Bishop to make an official notice to her.

  • NDaniels

    What is driving the Nancy Pelosi attack is the erroneous assumption due to the “Big Tent” mentality, that one can be for Christ and anti Christ, simultaneously.

    (See Catholic Canon 750)

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  • rod masom

    Anne Hendershott is to be commended for a most informative and comprehensive take on the devious and, for me, demonic attacks on the Catholic Church. And what a snakepit of lies, obfuscation, distortion and fatuous disingenuousness all of these so-called “Catholic” groups funded by the truly loathsome George Soros are. More proof, if any should be needed by now, of our “not wrestling with flesh and blood but wicked principalities and powers in high places,” (paraphrase) We need to say the prayer given to us by Pope Leo XIII often, the Prayer to St. Michael the Archangel. For ultimately we deal with a most wicked Seraph, lucifer, he who was cast down from the heights of heaven, and which incident Jesus Himself was witness to. Holy Mary, Co-Redemptrix of humanity, please pray for us, now and at the hour of our death, Amen.

  • tom

    Pelosi needs exorcize.

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