Fool’s Paradise: The Appeal of Jihad

“As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards and high-bosomed maidens for companions.”  ∼ Koran 78: 31-33

According to the principle known as Occam’s razor, the best explanation of an event is usually the one that is simplest. Yet Western analysts persist in using the most convoluted hypotheses to explain Islamic terrorism. Take a recent address to the UN Security Council by Cardinal Pietro Parolin, Vatican Secretary of State. In encouraging the Security Council to address the “root causes” of terrorism, he observed:

Young people traveling abroad to join the ranks of terrorist organizations often come from poor immigrant families, disillusioned by what they feel as a situation of exclusion and by the lack of integration and values in certain societies.

In other words, the culprits at the root of it all are the usual suspects—poverty and discrimination. Well, yes, that may have something to do with why young men go off to foreign lands and risk being blown to kingdom-come, but why look for a complicated cause when a simple explanation will do? In other words, is it necessary to go any further in the explanatory process than kingdom-come itself—and what kingdom-come entails?

For many a young man, the certainty that there are seventy-two high-bosomed maidens waiting for him on the other side is reason enough to risk the sacrifice of life and limb. And according to most Islamic interpretations, the only sure way of securing paradise is through martyrdom. Thus, the Islamic view of achieving paradise creates a very real temptation for young men to take the shortcut to get there. As Professor Louis René Beres points out in a recent article for Gatestone Institute, “The jihadi terrorist claims to ‘love death,’ but in his or her mind, that ‘suicide’ is anything but final”:

The would-be killer has been promised that death will represent just a trivial and momentary inconvenience, a minor detour on just one more glorious ‘martyr’s’ fiery trajectory toward a life everlasting, in Paradise.

It’s a hard combination to beat: life everlasting plus the kind of afterlife that a young man can readily appreciate. One advantage of the Islamic conception of paradise is that it’s considerably easier to understand than the Christian idea of heaven as union with God through the Beatific Vision. That may be why most Christians prefer to die in their beds rather than on the battlefield. As I said a couple of years ago:

Most Christians are not sure if they are quite ready for union with God, but most young men, of whatever religion, are pretty sure they are ready for the rewards offered in the Islamic paradise.

So why look further? If you are trying to explain the actions of a bunch of atheist terrorists, it might make sense to bring poverty and oppression into the equation. But as Fr. James Schall recently put it, “When we try to explain this religion [Islam] in economic, political, psychological, or other terms, we simply fail to see what is going on … we are in fact dealing with a religion that claims to be true….” As a Catholic shepherd, Cardinal Parolin would surely admit that getting to heaven is a major motivational force for devout Catholics. Why is it difficult to understand that devout Muslims have similar motivations?

Because the Islamic vision of paradise is so far removed from the Christian vision, Westerners are tempted to look elsewhere for a motive. Thus, Cardinal Parolin cited Pope Francis’ recent condemnation of the use of “religion as a pretext for actions against human dignity….” But if the Islamic State fighters are pretexters, they are convincing pretexters—pretexters with a text at hand to cover every imaginable situation. The various pronouncements coming out of the Islamic State suggest that its leaders are true believers who know their Koran and take it seriously. In a recent interview, a former Islamic State member describes the catechetical process:

We were promised women in heaven and on earth too based on IS jihadist teaching of the verses of some Suras of the holy book of Quran and hadiths by prophet Muhammad, all of which were explained through the Tafsir (explanation) by Islamic scholars like Ibn Majah, Bukhari and Ibn Kathir. We were told all non-Muslim women prisoners will be our wives and God wills it.

There are not just “some Suras” of the Koran that describe the heavenly garden of delights, but dozens of them. And the appeal of that promise is not confined, as some Westerners suppose, to people with few prospects in this world. In fact, studies have shown that jihadists come from better backgrounds and are better educated than the average Muslim. For instance, Mohamed Atta, the leader of the 9/11 terrorists, had degrees in architecture and urban planning from Cairo University and the Technical University of Hamburg. Yet among the items he packed for his final journey were a wedding suit, a bottle of cologne, and a letter addressed to his brides-to-be in paradise (due to an airport error, his luggage was left behind on the day of the 9/11 flight).

Although the actual number of virgins in paradise is not specified in the Koran, there should be little doubt that the promise of heavenly rewards looms large in the minds of jihadists. Church leaders shouldn’t have difficulty in understanding this, because they also take scriptural promises quite seriously. Even strictly secular analysts and commentators should be able to grasp the appeal—although from a somewhat different perspective. After all, if you consider sex to be the be-all and end-all of life on earth, as secularists tend to do, you should be able to appreciate the views of those who consider it to be the be-all and end-all of the afterlife.

In any event, the practical takeaway for Christians and secularists alike should be more or less the same. Since the lure of paradise is such a central motivator in the lives of jihadists, it makes sense to disabuse them of that belief. By undercutting that certitude, you also undermine the will to fight. Who wants to die for an illusion? Those of us who would prefer not to become a jihadist’s ticket to paradise have a vested interest in sowing doubts in the minds of Muslim believers about the nature of paradise. But how does one do that? Well, preferably from a safe distance. In war zones, leaflets could occasionally be dropped from planes instead of bombs. Elsewhere, the internet and social media sites which have served so well to recruit jihadists could be used to win recruits for rationality.

What should the content of the message be? Nothing fancy. Just some simple questions to activate the grey cells. For example: “Won’t you get tired of your companions after the first few hundred years of eternity?” “Will Allah supply you with seventy-two more after that?” “Will all the women be equally attractive? If not, won’t that cause problems?” “Will these companions be more like real women or more like beautiful robots?” “Do you want to spend eternity with robots?” “Isn’t it likely that maidens in paradise is nothing more than a clever recruiting tool made up by Muhammad?” Or, to put it more bluntly, “How can you be such a sap?”

Theologians and philosophers could also play a part in the debunking process, although they need not be quite so blunt. They could simply point out the contradiction inherent in trying to find a finite solution to an infinite yearning. Or they could simply refrain from rushing to the defense of Islam whenever serious questions are raised. In any event, we still seem to be a long way from asking such challenging questions of Islam. We have yet to go beyond the “no religion sanctions killing” and “we have deep respect for your beliefs” stage of confronting the realities of the Islamic faith.

Many security analysts say that we are in an ideological struggle with Islam—a propaganda war about which beliefs will ultimately prevail. If so, we are going about it in an unusual way. In past ideological struggles, we sought ideological victory—that is, we sought to discredit the belief systems that inspired our enemies. To start with, we didn’t accept their ideological premises, we challenged them. Cold War strategists were not given to telling their Soviet counterparts: “We think the workers’ paradise is a wonderful idea, but you really shouldn’t put people in gulags. It’s a betrayal of everything Marx stood for. Real communism doesn’t sanction violence, you know.”

Our aim was to shake faith in communism, not to validate and confirm it. We seem unwilling, however, to take a similar stance vis-à-vis the ideology of Islam. Although it would be greatly to our advantage to shake belief in the virgins-in-paradise deception (You do believe it’s a deception, don’t you?), we hesitate to go there. Perhaps we intuit that we can’t shake the branch without shaking the whole tree. The heavenly garden of delights is a main theme of the Koran. To question it is to question the integrity of the Koran as a whole, and also to question the integrity of the man from whom the whole system flows.

Politeness and multicultural pieties about respecting the other person’s beliefs prevent us from wielding a potent ideological weapon. Back in the Cold War, some pacifists adopted the slogan “Better Red than dead.” We don’t have a similar slogan today, but if we did it might be something along the lines of “Better to appease than displease.” It’s not as catchy, but the sentiments are the same.

For our own survival, we need to rethink the idea that the other person’s deeply held beliefs can never be questioned. The Islamists’ touching faith in the Stepford brides seems like a good place to start.

 Editor’s note: The image above titled “The Harem Dance” was painted by Giulio Rosati (1858-1917).

William Kilpatrick

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William Kilpatrick taught for many years at Boston College. He is the author of several books about cultural and religious issues, including Why Johnny Can’t Tell Right From Wrong; and Christianity, Islam and Atheism: The Struggle for the Soul of the West and The Politically Incorrect Guide to Jihad. His articles have appeared in numerous publications, including Catholic World Report, National Catholic Register, Aleteia, Saint Austin Review, Investor’s Business Daily, and First Things. His work is supported in part by the Shillman Foundation. For more on his work and writings, visit his website, turningpointproject.com

  • Michael Paterson-Seymour

    Lord Macaulay wrote, “Of the ten thousand clergymen of the Church of England, there is scarcely one who would not say that a man who should leave his country and friends to preach the Gospel among savages, and who should, after labouring indefatigably without any hope of reward, terminate his life by martyrdom, would deserve the warmest admiration. Yet, we can doubt whether ten of the ten thousand ever thought of going on such an expedition.”

  • ForChristAlone

    #1 The Vatican Secretary of State says this: “Young people traveling abroad to join the ranks of terrorist organizations often come from poor immigrant families, disillusioned by what they feel as a situation of exclusion and by the lack of integration and values in certain societies.”

    I, for one, am sick and tired of bishops speaking outide their areas of expertise. Is this Archbishop speaking as a social scientist? I find it interesting that our bishops are so adept at make pronouncements on matters outside their qualifications but when it comes to catechizing the faithful, they are failing miserably.

    #2 “For many a young man, the certainty that there are seventy-two high-bosomed maidens waiting for him on the other side is reason enough to risk the sacrifice of life and limb. And according to most Islamic interpretations, the only sure way of securing paradise is through martyrdom.”

    Here’s yet another example of the lunacy of Islam. Is paradise intended only for males since it would be unseemly for Islamic women to covet the 72 high-bosomed women promised by martyrdom? We know that Islam wages a ‘war against women’ but does this also extend to the promises of heaven? I think the ‘Sisters on the Bus’ tour ought to take their road trip to Mecca to disabuse Islam of its false teachings when it comes to women.

    • Vinnie

      Could women Islamic terrorists be lesbians?

      • FernieV

        Let’s raise the level of discussion, please!

        • Vinnie

          Guess the low-bosomed maidens do the cooking, cleaning and laundry.

          • Fred

            Not sure about that, but those sure aren’t burqas they’re wearing. I guess that was from an earlier free loving age.

            • dougpruner

              If you mean the picture at the top of this blog, it isn’t even “paradise”- it’s clearly a nineteenth century painting of a harem; not one maiden in the bunch, if the Sultan has been doing his duty.
              This being the case, one wonders at the motive for using the pic…

              • DE-173

                What?

                • dougpruner

                  ??? Fred was (I think) talking about the (ahem!) deshabille of the cuties in the pic under the title. ‘Not wearing burqas’ or much else either.

        • dougpruner

          I believe it has been continued, if not raised. There are a few female suicide bombers and such, but women generally, IN MUSLIM CULTURES, are second-class, if that. There is as far as I know no reward for such women.
          There are some thought-provoking questions for Muslim men and women buried in that teaching. IMO one-on-one discussion is the way to reach their hearts, not pontificating by Bishops (!). Certainly not with Tomahawk missiles, which reach their hearts in quite a different way.

          • AnneM040359

            Sadly, in Islam, women are simply are treated like DIRT.

      • GG

        An interesting question. What is the “reward” for female terrorists?

      • HA

        Numerous jihad terrorists are apparently escaping unhappy arranged marriages. Whether someone is unhappy in her marriage because he or she is homosexually inclined, or whether the spouse is repellent for any number of other reasons (abuse, incompatibility) seems less important. It’s not about entering the next life so much as escaping this one.

        One interesting note that the above link brings out: because jihadis are looking for societal affirmation as well as paradise, one deterrent would be humiliation. For example, female Palestinian jihadis seem especially concerned that their naked remains will be publicly visible in the aftermath of a suicide explosion, to the extent that that fear can be used as a deterrent.

    • Fred

      Maybe most do, but so what. They don’t go to fight from a vacuum, they come from mosques where the Imam’s fill their heads with this stuff. And besides, I read where many come from pretty well to do families so I take exception.

    • DE-173

      “I, for one, am sick and tired of bishops speaking outside their areas of expertise. Is this Archbishop speaking as a social scientist? I find it interesting that our bishops are so adept at making pronouncements on matters outside their qualifications but when it comes to catechizing the faithful, they are failing miserably.”

      And at this point, we have to ask “what is their area of expertise”?

      By way of example, here is Cardinal Dolan’s education as listed by Wikipedia (as always subject to summary revision)

      “Dolan entered Saint Louis Preparatory Seminary (now Kenrick–Glennon Seminary) in Shrewsbury, Missouri in 1964, and later obtained a Bachelor of Arts degree in philosophy from Cardinal Glennon College. He was sent by Cardinal John Carberry to further his studies in Rome, where he attended the Pontifical North American College. Dolan is also an alumnus of the Pontifical University of St. Thomas Aquinas Angelicum from which he earned the degree of Licentiate of Sacred Theology in 1976.”

      Too much episteme, not enough techne. Too much classroom, not enough lab work. Too much instruction, too little practice.

      • John Albertson

        While telling Muslims in New York that they have the same God as Christians, and then encouraging them to “keep the Faith” Dolan has instituted Common Core in the schools along with the universal pre-K program which, in exchange for government funding, agrees not to teach Catholic doctrine, not to keep Catholic holidays as different from the holidays of other religions, and to cover crucifixes and other religious symbols in the classrooms of Catholic schools. There is no danger of youthful Catholic fanaticism in Dolan’s schools !

      • FernieV

        Obama has to take decisions about going to war with other countries and has never seen a weapon at close range…

        • GG

          And he is incompetent.

          • Fred

            I think he’s quite competent in implementing an agenda and couldn’t care less what you and I think, be damned.

            • GG

              I agree he is an ideologue. He may be crafty and manipulative. As for his intellectual wattage…

        • John200

          He has seen Moochelle at close range.

          She won the encounter.

      • John O’Neill

        Sad to say the American bishops take their marching orders from the American Democrat party. Since the sixties most of the prominent churchmen in the US Catholic schools have felt the need to constantly flak for the Democrats and teach the ways of the Democrat holy men like Ted Kennedy et al. It is obvious in their pretense to be fighting for the pro life cause that they have done very little to stop government sponsored abortion; they have bowed to the great gods of the American ruling class. It is vain to look to them for any guidance in the Catholic Faith. They are too busy now laying the groundwork for the coronation of Queen Hilary, the American version of Catherine the Great. Born Catholic, baptized democrat that is the modus vivendi of the American Church.

    • Zephaniah

      Agree…. there are some things…probably ‘many’ things, on which the Bishops should not speak or get involved. Climate Concerns (b/c it is a hoax); economics b/c they have no idea with which they speak; etc. etc.

      • ForChristAlone

        Back to the seminary for these bishops…but this time, STUDY!

        • John200

          Good basic proposition, but if they did not learn their stuff in 1968, when they had only one responsibility — to get close to God, ie, to get formed right — they will not learn it now. It might be wise to toss out an appreciable fraction of our bishops for negligence, failure to minister, etc.

          Some of these boys should have been thrown out early in their career, when they served as deacons and priests. I get the feeling that the exits after Vatican II protected some poorly formed boys from being defrocked. These would have been ejected in a more sincere time.

          I join you in wondering what this generation of bishops did in their formative years. They were supposed to become faithful pastors in the Roman Catholic faith, capable of shepherding us into heaven.

          Pray for them, and look ahead for the next generation, which promises to be much better. While the American workforce is less and less skilled, our clergy is improving (according to what I see from my little patch of paradise).

    • Robert

      “Is paradise intended only for males?” Actually, according to some hadiths and the opinions of some important Islamic jurists, it is an open question whether women will be in “paradise” at all (other than as robotic concubines). If you read the source texts carefully, one cannot help but conclude that, for Islam, “paradise” is for men only.

      • ForChristAlone

        Quick, someone get the bishops on the phone and alert them to this gross social injustice. Then, I am sure, they will roundly denounce Islam for its assault on human rights.

  • NormChouinard

    What William Kilpartick calls “Politeness and multicultural pieties about respecting the other person’s beliefs” is actually Catholic Doctrine. It has been articulated clearly in Vatican 2 (see Second Vatican Council, Nostra Aetate 3, October 28, 1965) and has been consistently reaffirmed by every pope since including B16. You may not agree with this doctrine, but let’s call it what it is.

    http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/ecumenical-and-interreligious/interreligious/islam/vatican-council-and-papal-statements-on-islam.cfm

    • Fred

      Seems to be good advise for life in this world to “not rock the boat”, but not the path to eternal life as Jesus instructs us.

    • Watosh

      Well I do believe Church teaching prior to Vatican II was correct and valid, so I wonder about those Church prelates and laymen who conspicuously never refer to any Church statements, nor any Popes statements that were made prior to Vatican II. One would think the Church was born again with Vatican II, and nothing the Church taught before that had any relevance. “Politeness and multicultural pieties about respecting other person’s beliefs” certainly is something that should be observed in general, but I would question whether this means the Church officially considers other religions are legitimate roads to salvation. And when Mr. Chouinard states that this Church teaching has been “consistently reaffirmed by every Pope since, is he implying that this was a new Church teaching? Or does his statement indicate that in the almost 2,000 years of church history he could not point out any previous papal reaffirmation of this Catholic doctrine? Does this then represent a “development” of Church teaching. It could be so argued. but it could be so argued that if the Church permits divorce that would constitute a “development.’ A lot depends on the rigor of the definitions used. Anyway I do believe that the Church officially never believed in forced conversions. Forced conversions generally occurred by a ruler for poetical reasons. Nor has the church ever condoned genocide. Many clashes with the Moslem world were defensive in nature, and the retaking of the Holy Land was to give access to the Holy Land. The Crusades were a mistaken endeavor and usually turned out badly. No one in the Church would say that everything a Pope did was infallible. The Popes were human, some were not very moral, so as the saying goes, “Mistakes were made.” Yes, in a multicultural, world made up of diverse elements there is a need for politeness and pieties about respecting the other person’s beliefs.” At the same time does this include Satanists, or Wiccans or fascists? Discretion is needed in interpreting such pieties. but by the same token it is wrong to believe those who believe differently should be wiped out, unless they come at you brandishing an AK-47. Balance is needed, balance is needed here. Catholics believe their religion is the true religion, and when they say and teach this, some other religions may take offense. Still if one believes Catholic teaching one must say this as long as it is not used to taunt or deliberately provoke those who believe otherwise. On the other hand we are commanded “not to hide our light under a bushel,” or words to that effect. And we should always be polite, even in contemporary America.

    • FernieV

      Absolutely correct!

    • GG

      That refers to elements that are true. Respect for violence, even if it is in the Koran, is wrong and anti Christian. The Church does not embrace that.

    • ColdStanding

      The primary claim of the supporters of the council in question is that its pronouncements were pastoral and not doctrinal in nature. Therefore, if it was pastoral at the time to pursue a policy of being nice, to paraphrase, to those that espouse heretical doctrine, it is not necessarily a good policy now. Vatican II = the introduction of the false idea that policy is the same as doctrine. The basis for subjecting these documents to critical analysis is so very much stronger than what is happening, for example, at the Synod on the Family which is actually attempting to tamper with the unambiguous words of The Word Himself

    • Watosh

      Mr. Chouinard states that “Politeness and multicultural pieties about respecting the other person’s beliefs” is actually Catholic Doctrine. Now I have nothing against respecting other’s beliefs and politeness, they both are commendable as a general rule. But while Mr. Chouinard states this is Catholic Doctrine, and that it has perhaps been articulated clearly in Vatican II, nevertheless, many of the clearly articulated words were never rigorously defined.

      To describe this statement as “Catholic Doctrine” may be a little overboard, though I will readily admit I am no expert on what constitutes Catholic Doctrine. But this admonition cited by Mr. Chouinard appears to more of a recommended behavior to follow in order to not to cause problems with others in a multicultural society. Much like it has always been official Catholic teaching that having a secular State is to be tolerated, but not considered the ideal in a nation composed mainly of Catholics. In this instance it would not be a highly accurate to say that having a secular State was Catholic Doctrine.

      I don’t believe this formulation from Vatican II considers all the implications of this “doctrine.” Should Catholics then not oppose the military to have Satanist chaplains, or to oppose the practice of polygamists? Tese are just two examples, one could come up with many more.

      Then too, I noticed Mr. Chouinard in supporting this Catholic Doctrine mentioned that it had been reaffirmed by every Pope since Vatican II. This makes me wonder why no popes of the thousand of years the Catholic Church existed was mentioned as affirming this Catholic doctrine. Does this imply it was a New Doctrine? I was always taught the Catholic Church only taught what the Bible and Tradition taught. A new Doctrine implies something that the early Church fathers was not aware of, and one wonders what the authority for it was. Previous councils never claimed to proclaim a new doctrine, but rather to clarify and make precise Catholic Doctrine.

      And yes the Church has always recognized Catholic Doctrines could develop. Now develop as it is used in general discourse is a broad term. So the Church took pains to precisely define what constitutes “development” as used in Church teaching. Other wise someone in the Church could say let us permit divorce, and we can say this does not go against traditional Catholic teaching because it was a development.

      Now there are those who seem to feel that the Catholic Church prior to Vatican II was generally obsolete and in error and should be forgotten, and that the Catholic Church had a new beginning called Vatican II. I get this impression when they never make reference to any encyclical or statement by any pope who was pope before Vatican II. And of course I have heard it said that this was because Vatican Ii represented a recodification and a recompiling of all Church teaching, so that henceforth there was no need to go back to the anything prior to Vatican II. That is a rather huge stretch. Now many sincere souls who are good Cathoiics (I am being polite and respectful you see) are enthusiastic supporters of Vatican Ii and all its works, and it does contain examples of prior Catholic teaching, but to these who feel Vatican II revitalized the Catholic church, I look at the vital statistics and I am not comforted by them, nor by the widespread attitude of many Catholics that they can ignore Church teaching they don’t agree with and still be good Catholics.

  • I agree that there needs to be an effort to shake the foundation of the Islamacists. I’m not sure anyone but so called moderate Muslims can do it. An outsider to the faith will never be taken seriously. Now if we can convert Muslims to Christianity, that would be wonderful. But evangelization should be an ongoing effort whether we’re in conflict with Islam or not.

    • FernieV

      I agree and this is what, in my opinion, the Church is trying to do: to win the confidence of moderate Muslims (the majority) so that they themselves would influence their radical brothers, which non-Muslims cannot do. The author seems to miss this point.

      • Perhaps. I’m not sure the Church is thinking that stategically.

    • DE-173

      ” I’m not sure anyone but so called moderate Muslims can do it. An outsider to the faith will never be taken seriously.”

      And what makes you think a “moderate” will be taken seriously? For that matter, what makes you think he won’t be the subject of a fatwa for apostasy.

      Islam has a 1400 year history of conquest and violence. It is what it is-and positing the possibility of change isn’t hope, it’s delusion.

      You shall know them by their fruits.

      • NormChouinard

        It is not that simple. There are brave Muslims out there who are fighting and dying for the cause of Christian religious liberty. The “I am N” (or ن ) was started by Muslims in Iraq who are willing to risk theil lives for their xChristian neighbors. We need to support people like that rather than “to question the integrity of the Koran as a whole”. Islam is in a cultural civil war and right now the bad guys are winning. We need to help change that.

        http://savemiddleeastchristians.com/2014/07/25/the-muslim-who-gave-up-his-life-for-mosuls-christians/

        • DE-173

          “It is not that simple.”

          In other words, you don’t like and cannot dispute the record, so you wish to bury it in complication. Of course, I never said it was simple, I said it was consistent and durable.

          “Islam is in a cultural civil war and right now the bad guys are winning. We need to help change that.”

          Islam is war. Everywhere it goes, it brings strife, submission and domination. When have the “bad guys” not been winning in Islam?
          Your vacant invocation to “help change that” is naive. Islam is exceedingly resistant to exogenous influences. Do you think you’ll be more persuasive then the man from Assisi?

          However fanciful your notion of “US” acting to rescue Islam from it’s own dark side, right now, “WE” are in a civil war, and the bad guys are winning.

          Right now there are two “apparent” ascendent forces in the world: Militant idolatrist statism and militant Islam. Unless militant idolatrist statism is vanquished (and I have little hope that it will be, since it is in a state of global metastasis, with too many adherents wearing collars and carrying mitres) “WE” will be relagated to a smaller and smaller and more and more silent minority.

          Of course where ever the state becomes god, the fruits of that counterfeit become the same. Social death, economic and spiritual privation, the nihilist demographic death spiral.

          When that happens, Islam will seem like enlightenment and it will spread its darkness over the world.

          • NormChouinard

            “In other words, you don’t like and cannot dispute the record”

            Friend, of course I dispute your version of the record. I stated the fact that many Muslims are fighting for religious freedom and are in civil war with IS. You have ignored that.

            “Islam is war. Everywhere it goes, it brings strife, submission and domination.”

            Speak in absolutes much?!?

            Who the heck are “WE”?

            You can’t mean the Catholic Church whose doctrine articulated clearly in Vatican 2 (see Second Vatican Council, Nostra Aetate 3) and has been consistently reaffirmed by every pope since respects the Muslim faith and especially the truths we share. So who is WE?

            “Of course where ever the state becomes god…”

            Here we are in agreement. B16’s Regensburg questions to all religions, particularly Islam need to be restated fearlessly and with fraternal love in our hearts and our goal.

            “When that happens, Islam will seem like enlightenment and it will spread its darkness over the world.”
            Have some faith. There is nothing that man can destroy that God cannot rebuild.

            • DE-173

              “Friend, of course I dispute your version of the record.”

              What part of the 1400 years are you disputing? Lepanto, Vienna, the Iberian invasion..

              • NormChouinard

                I guess the parts in every age that where Islam and Christianity coexisted in peace and harmony. Thanks for clarifying that.

                • DE-173

                  Are you Karen Armstrong?

                • John200

                  Peace came from Christian victory over Islam.

                  Harmony has not come, nor will it ever. Christianity cannot be made harmonious with Islam as long as both exist.

                  Read the Quran, assuming you have been formed as a Christian. You can’t miss it. It’s all there.

          • AnneM040359

            PRAY for the CONVERSION of ALL to CHRIST.

      • Yes, i know, but I wasn’t addressing that. I was only addressing how and who can ideologically confront the Islamacists.

    • Vinnie

      You’ve missed the author’s point in many previous essays. “Moderate” Muslims either distort or do not follow the Koran. They would be considered “outsiders” to the terrorists as well.

      • I agree with that, but that wasn’t the issue at hand. The issue was how to ideologically confront Islamacists.

    • BXVI

      Yes, we should be doing everything we can to convert the Muslims, so that they can be saved. But that would be proselytism, I suppose; i.e., “solemn nonsense.”?
      What happened to us?

  • Michael Dowd

    It would be more helpful for our Bishops to tell us the truth about the Muslim religion than try to explain away it’s appeal to young men using absurd social justice arguments.

    • DE-173

      The arguments are absurd, but they are pseudosociological, not social justice.
      OBL came from a wealthy family and was trained as an engineer. Most of his minions were from means and educated. Even if that nonsensical and disprovable argumenty were true, why don’t we have Sikhs, Hindus, Jews, Bhuddists or any other faith flyiing planes into buildings or blowing up school buses or….

    • John200

      I have a bad feeling that some bishops do not know Islam as well as I do. I am no expert, but I have read 2 well-respected translations of the Koran and several commentaries — all recommended by others well schooled in the field.

      We learn that Muslim boys get to heaven by killing people. BS — Virgins in heaven will not come near a boy who murdered people in order to get to heaven and have sex with them. Nor will the virgins have to make any such decision, because these boys are not heading toward heaven.

      These boys are going to get intercepted by a judgmental type, a politically incorrect gentleman, who will want to know why they killed some number (the boys won’t know how many!) of their betters.

      To think that I know the Koran better than the bishops makes me want to vomit onto my shirt and tie. Read your Bible. Listen to the magisterium. Pray that all the bishops know what the magisterium is.

      • Jacqueleen

        There is no sex in heaven…period! Someone should explain that to the Muslim boys…..they will have to look for another reason to get there.

        • John200

          An obvious truth, but these boys have not been introduced to much truth.

  • Fred

    Bill, your columns have amazing resonance with what I believe and read also, thanks. I understand not wanting to be an antagonist, but to enable and lie is immoral and … evil. When I see you-know-who spinning yarns about what it’s not and rationalize that it’s about social issues I want to … stop reading so I don’t have a stroke. Have we become cowards afraid to call what is black, black and what is white, white (no racial undertone intended). Who can believe in a God who commands one to take a child bride, promises virgins in heaven for martyrdom, changes his mind whimsically, commands the slaughter of infidels, treats women as property, says to lie to and with the enemy making peace until the numbers are sufficient to overpower and slay, and on and on.

  • Vinnie

    Muhammad certainly knew psychology. Also, what isn’t specifically mentioned in regard to these two quotes; “The jihadi terrorist claims to ‘love death,’ but in his or her mind, that ‘suicide’ is anything but final” and “Most Christians are not sure if they are quite ready for union with God…” is that Christians need greater faith.

  • John Albertson

    Not only did Cardinal Parolin speak from the shallows of political correctness on the sources of Islamic terorism among the young, he also delivered a message to the UN Climate Change Summit on September 23 saying: “The scientific consensus is rather consistent and it is that, since
    the second half of the last century, warming of the climate system is
    unequivocal.” One commentator responded: “The problem is that (Parolin) is dead wrong. The evidence and
    consensus now amongst any honest scientists is that there has not been any warming for
    at least the past 16 and possibly even up to 26 years years. It has
    stopped. In fact we may be in for a long term period of cooling.
    Cardinal Parolin should get new advisors.” Regardless of what one things about climate change, the sad fact is that Parolin is an embarrassing example of the worse sort of clericalism. Unless he has a hidden history of advanced studies in geology and meterology, he should defer to people who know more than he does. A cardinal’s red hat is not a wizard’s hat.

    • DE-173

      “A cardinal’s red hat is not a wizard’s hat.”

      No, but in some cases it should have the letters affixed to another pointed conical headwear. D-U-N-C-E.

    • John200

      Malheureusement, the good Cardinal P. is in above his weight class. He must stop punching, concede today’s fight before he gets killed, and fire his trainer, manager, and seconds. They nearly got him killed.

      For his own good, Cdl. P. needs to bite down on his tongue when this BS tries to jump out of his mouth. Better to bleed a little than to spread idiocy under a cardinal’s authority.

      A shepherd who does not know his vocation can kill a lot of sheep, and himself.

      Fix it, Cdl. P. I will pray for you to do so.

  • Isabel Kilian

    Can you tell me what the women of Islam are promised to keep
    them so subjugated? Thank you.

    • Objectivetruth

      ……72 husbands that do lawn work on the weekend instead of lying on the couch watching football.

      Sorry……couldn’t help myself! Good question, I don’t know.

      • dougpruner

        Excellent, Isabel!
        IMO what keeps them subjugated is (A) they’re told Allah wants it that way, and (B) they get beaten if they disobey. As I noted elsewhere the modern system of Islam is sorely lacking in plain logic, not to mention fellow feeling. Compare Paul’s advice to families at Eph 5 and 6.
        “Among you there must be not even a mention of sexual vice or impurity in any of its forms, or greed: this would scarcely become the holy people of God”
        “In the same way, husbands must love their wives as they love their own bodies; for a man to love his wife is for him to love himself.”
        And so on. Not bad, eh?

    • droolbritannia

      I wonder if they aren’t living in a kind of permanent state of ‘Stockholm syndrome’ – that they are raised with those beliefs and everything in their culture keeps them locked into those beliefs (they know the dangers if they dare to question or refuse to submit) and so they actually convince themselves that they ‘love’ those beliefs and believe in them.

      What baffles me completely is when I see a nominal Catholic girl fall in love with a Muslim and start covering her head and talking about how Islam is so glorious and all about ‘peace’, etc. I want to shout, ‘How dumb ARE you?!?” Twice I have seen Polish Catholic girls in Poland get involved with Muslim men. One agreed to his terms: he would live in a Muslim country, while she lived in Poland and raised their two sons. She was not allowed to breathe a word of Christianity to them. He sent money; they visited in his country when the political climate would allow, usually – but not always – ever summer. She raised the two boys essentially on her own, and raised them to love and honor their father. He sent money until the boys were in their late teens – and then suddenly the money stopped. She told me that she had told him, ‘I accept all your terms for this marriage, but if you get a second wife, it’s over.’ Well, after the money stopped and he did not reply to any attempts at contacting him, she got the hint – he’d got a new, younger wife and was starting over again. She divorced him.

      The other one was about 20 when I knew her. She met her Muslim true-love in Ireland while working there in the summer. I don’t know if she married him or intended to (she covered her head and always talked glowingly of Islam and her future plans to study Islam). They lived apart because he was in Ireland, working. I lost track of her for about a year, and then the next I heard, he had dumped her. She was useful to get a right to live in the EU, and after that, she was no use to him.

      I don’t understand how any woman – or the family of any woman – raised Christian or just raised in the west can know what we know about Islam and be deluded that it’s a religion that respects women or will help women fulfill their own nature.

    • John200

      If they want to live, they submit.

      It sounds harsh, but that is the basic proposition for women of Islam.

      If you are a woman (internet screen names might mislead), do not move to a place where the “religion of peace” has any influence.

  • Zephaniah

    Another example of the simple fact that the Bishops (or some of them), like Congress, are out of touch with reality… they are out of their depth when they speak on Economics, War, Climate Change and most frighteningly, on the reasons people act. But, most important, is that they have allowed themselves to get bogged down in the mantras of tolerance and political correctness… both being the root cause of downfall of America. If one cannot say what is on one’s mind without fear of punishment and ridicule, all rights die with the right to freedom of speech.

  • BXVI

    Why can’t the Church’s shepherds just tell the truth: that Islam is an evil perversion and that the supposed “Prophet” was a profoundly evil man? Why can’t we just say “They are wrong, and the made-up religion they follow is rotten at its core”? This pablum from Parolin at the UN makes me want to vomit.

    • DE-173

      Because they learned to be good little Dhimmis after Regensburg.

      It much easier to attack things like “poverty” or “globalism”, since such abstractions won’t fly a plane into a building, behead you or yell “allah akbhar” before denotating the bomb hidden under a shirt.

      • AnneM040359

        Because they are simply are doing what the “enemy” tells them to do, that is, the jihadis.

    • HigherCalling

      Unlike most of today’s shepherds, the saints were neither naive nor p.c. on the subject of Islam:

      http://www.onepeterfive.com/what-did-the-saints-say-about-islam/

    • AnneM040359

      Got to remember who the REAL god of Islam is, and it is the same god whom Jesus said was and is a “a liar, a thief, and a murderer from the begining.”

  • Maybe we should just repackage the film The Stepford Wives as “Islamic Paradise” and start showing it on college campuses.

  • s;vbkr0boc,klos;

    What’s not to like? Rob, kill, steal and rape for Allah and spend eternity in the great whorehouse in the sky. No wonder 80% of American prison converts are becoming Muslims and not Christians.

    • DE-173

      It also helps that Islam’s requirements are a rich bounty for filing grievances. It would be comic, if not tragic that judges who demand that scholastic football teams not pray out of their own voilition, DEMAND that prison order and discipline be upended to meet the demands of (pseudo)Muslim gangs.

    • JP

      IMHO, our convicts convert to Islam because it appeals to their masculinity. Most of the convict’s exposure to Christ is through perfumed femininity. In the Catholic Church, one is exposed to effete priests, lectors, teachers, DREs, altar girls, social workers, choir directors, and in some dissident parishes, female homilists.

      Even in our judicial system, a convicts exposure to the law as a minor begins with his mother, Child Protective Services, police, probation officers, public advocates, public defenders, social workers and juvenile judges – all dominated by women.

      Islam, if anything, is a male dominated socio-religious institution. In the long run, which religion do you think will remain standing? Yes, the Gates of Hell will not prevail against Christ’s Church. But, that doesn’t mean that there won’t be long periods of suffering. The Jews spent decades in captivity, as well as hundreds of years as slaves.

      • s;vbkr0boc,klos;

        TOO YIN….
        http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2011/01/art-of-strategic-citizenship-part-3.html

        The decay of our civillization is best understood through the ‘natural’ philosophy of the ancient Chinese, the yin-yang. Tekuan is brilliant here as usual. I am an ardent Catholic fan of his even if I sometimes disagree

      • AnneM040359

        ……Yet the GOOD NEWS is that the Christian faith, including the Catholic faith is GROWING by leaps and bounds in Africa and in Asia, plus now are sending missionaries to the west, America, included.

  • Ronk

    In fact there always have been and still are “useful idiots” as Lenin called them, mostly professed Christians, who claimed that “real” Marxist communism is non-violent and basically a Good Thing, despite the clear written instructions of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Mao and ALL Marxist leaders, that anyone who declined to actively endorse atheism and unquestioning obedience to the State, must be forced to do so using violence, torture, imprisonment, war, terrorism and murder. Many people forget that one-quarter of the world’s population is still languishing under atheist Macxist dictatorships in China, Korea, Vietnam and Laos to name the worst of them.

  • JP

    “Young people traveling abroad to join the ranks of terrorist
    organizations often come from poor immigrant families, disillusioned by
    what they feel as a situation of exclusion and by the lack of
    integration and values in certain societies.”

    The 19 young Muslims who were part of the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon came from Middle to Upper Middle Class families. Bin Lade himself came from a wealthy Saudi businessman who made his millions in construction. Most of the Tube bombers came from solid Middle Class families from the bourgeois professional classes.

    Both Lenin and Hitler came out of the Bourgeoisie. Pol Pot did not represent the indigenous the impoverished Asian Proletariat; his family was a solid Middle Class farmers. Pol Pot was sent to Catholic ecoles, before going to Paris where he absorbed Marx, Satre, and Darwin.

    The History of Post Modern political and social terrorism is written not by the poor, but by the Bourgeosie. Islam is no different.

  • Michael Wallis

    Many of our bishops and clergy do not believe. The supernatural is an absurdity to them, hence they parrot pop-sociological inanities. James Burnham, in his classic study of delusional ideological “thinking”, Suicide of the West, offers a better analysis. Our elites, including our unbelieving clergy and bishops, echo these delusions about Islam because they need to rationalize the destruction of the West, and for the clergy and bishops, Christendom, by appealing to these foolish, ideological tropes.

  • Maria Combe

    I was not expecting this approach!  Too commonsensical for the present day!

    The point he leaves out, though, is the women’s angle. What the expletive is in it for the female Muslim? Zip! If they go to Paradise at all, they won’t be virgins, most of them, and even if they are all magically reverted to original virginity, their lot in heaven is just more of the same thing they had on earth: catering to men’s whims. So why not throw off the yoke now, while you still can? 

    Thus, the Western task is to “empower” the Muslim woman and undeceive the Muslim man, preferably without getting beheaded.

  • Enrico

    Kilpatrick and the clown commentators who follow his nonsense on this site are inciting genocide against Muslims, just like this Rabbi:

    http://mondoweiss.net/2014/10/genocidal-atlanta-hashanah

    Muslims were blamed for 911, but they didn’t do it.

    • ForChristAlone

      Back to the hospital for you. You were released prematurely.

      • Sarah

        The New York Times reported Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen congratulating one another afterwards. (1)

        Police received several calls from angry New Jersey residents claiming “middle-eastern” men with a white van were videotaping the disaster with shouts of joy and mockery. (2)

        “They were like happy, you know … They didn’t look shocked to me” said a witness. (3)

        [T]hey were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage. (4)

        Witnesses saw them jumping for joy in Liberty State Park after the initial impact (5). Later on, other witnesses saw them celebrating on a roof in Weehawken, and still more witnesses later saw them celebrating with high fives in a Jersey City parking lot. (6)”It looked like they’re hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park.” (7)

        One anonymous phone call to the authorities actually led them to close down all of New York’s bridges and tunnels. The mystery caller told the 9-1-1 dispatcher that a group of Palestinians were mixing a bomb inside of a white van headed for the Holland Tunnel. Here’s the transcript from NBC News:

        Dispatcher: Jersey City police.
        Caller: Yes, we have a white van, 2 or 3 guys in there, they look like Palestinians and going around a building.
        Caller: There’s a minivan heading toward the Holland tunnel, I see the guy by Newark Airport mixing some junk and he has those sheikh uniform.
        Dispatcher: He has what?
        Caller: He’s dressed like an Arab. (8)

        (*Writer’s note: Why would this mystery caller specifically say that these “Arabs” were Palestinians? How would he know that? Palestinians usually dress in western style clothes, not “sheikh uniforms”)

        Based on that phone call, police then issued a “Be-on-the-Lookout” alert for a white mini-van heading for the city’s bridges and tunnels from New Jersey.

        White, 2000 Chevrolet van with ‘Urban Moving Systems’ sign on back seen at Liberty State Park, Jersey City, NJ, at the time of first impact of jetliner into World Trade Center Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion. FBI Newark Field Office requests that, if the van is located, hold for prints and detain individuals. (9)When a van fitting that exact description was stopped just before crossing into New York, the suspicious “middle-easterners” were apprehended. Imagine the surprise of the police officers when these terror suspects turned out to be Israelis!

        According to ABC’s 20/20, when the van belonging to the cheering Israelis was stopped by the police, the driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers:

        “We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem.” (10)

        Why did he feel Palestinians were a problem for the NYPD?

        The police and FBI field agents became very suspicious when they found maps of the city with certain places highlighted, box cutters (the same items that the hijackers supposedly used), $4700 cash stuffed in a sock, and foreign passports. Police also told the Bergen Record that bomb sniffing dogs were brought to the van and that they reacted as if they had smelled explosives. (11)

        The FBI seized and developed their photos, one of which shows Sivan Kurzberg flicking a cigarette lighter in front of the smouldering ruins in an apparently celebratory gesture. (12)

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        The Jerusalem Post later reported that a white van with a bomb was stopped as it approached the George Washington Bridge, but the ethnicity of the suspects was not revealed. Here’s what the Jerusalem Post reported on September 12, 2001:

        American security services overnight stopped a car bomb on the George Washington Bridge. The van, packed with explosives, was stopped on an approach ramp to the bridge. Authorities suspect the terrorists intended to blow up the main crossing between New Jersey and New York, Army Radio reported. (13)

        “…two suspects are in FBI custody after a truckload of explosives was discovered around the George Washington Bridge … The FBI … says enough explosives were in the truck to do great damage to the George Washington Bridge.”

        WMV video download (545kB)

        It was reported the van contained tonnes of explosives (14).

        What’s really intriguing is that ABC’s 20/20 (15), the New York Post (16), and the New Jersey Bergen Record (17) all clearly and unambiguouslyreported that a white van with Israelis was intercepted on a ramp near Route 3, which leads directly to the Lincoln Tunnel.

        But the Jerusalem Post, Israeli National News (Arutz Sheva) (18), and Yediot America, (19) all reported, just as clearly and unambiguously, that a white van with Israelis was stopped on a ramp leading to the George Washington Bridge, which is several miles north of the Lincoln Tunnel.

        It appears as if there may actually have been two white vans involved, one stopped on each crossing. This would not only explain the conflicting reports as to the actual location of the arrests, but would also explain how so many credible eye-witnesses all saw celebrating “middle-easterners” in a white van in so many different locations. It also explains why the New York Post and Steve Gordon (lawyer for the 5 Israelis) originally described how three Israelis were arrested but later increased the total to five.

        Perhaps one van was meant to drop off a bomb while the other was meant to pick up the first set of drivers while re-crossing back into New Jersey? If a van was to be used as a parked time-bomb on the GW Bridge, then certainly the drivers would need to have a “get-away van” to pick them up and escape. And notice how the van (or vans) stayed away from the third major crossing -the Holland Tunnel- which was where the police had originally been directed to by that anti-Palestinian 9-1-1 “mystery caller”. A classic misdirection play.

        From there, the story gets becomes even more suspicious. The Israelis worked for a Weehawken moving company known as Urban Moving Systems. An American employee of Urban Moving Systems told the The Record of New Jersey that a majority of his co-workers were Israelis and they were joking about the attacks.

        The employee, who declined to give his name said: “I was in tears. These guys were joking and that bothered me.” These guys were like, “Now America knows what we go through.” (20)

        A few days after the attacks, Urban Moving System’s Israeli owner, Dominick Suter, dropped his business and fled the country for Israel. He was in such a hurry to flee America that some of Urban Moving System’s customers were left with their furniture stranded in storage facilities (21).

        Suter’s departure was abrupt, leaving behind coffee cups, sandwiches, cell phones and computers strewn on office tables and thousands of dollars of goods in storage. Suter was later placed on the same FBI suspect list as 9/11 lead hijacker Mohammed Atta and other hijackers and suspected al-Qaeda sympathizers, suggesting that U.S. authorities felt Suter may have known something about the attacks. (22)

        The Jewish weekly The Forward reported that the FBI finally concluded that at least two of the detained Israelis were agents working for the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, and that Urban Moving Systems, the ostensible employer of the five Israelis, was a front operation. This was confirmed by two former CIA officers, and they noted that movers’ vans are a common intelligence cover. (23). The Israelis were held in custody for 71 days before being quietly released. (24)

        “There was no question but that [the order to close down the investigation] came from the White House. It was immediately assumed at CIA headquarters that this basically was going to be a cover-up so that the Israelis would not be implicated in any way in 9/11.” (25)

        Several of the detainees discussed their experience in America on an Israeli talk show after their return home. Said one of the men, denying that they were laughing or happy on the morning of Sept. 11, “The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event.” (26)
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        How did they know there would be an event to document on 9/11?

        It doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to connect the dots of the dancing Israeli Mossad agents – here’s the most logical scenario:

        1. The Israeli “movers” cheered the 9-11 attacks to celebrate the successful accomplishment of the greatest spy operation ever pulled off in history.

        2. One of them, or an accomplice, then calls a 9-1-1 police dispatcher to report Palestinian bomb-makers in a white van headed for the Holland Tunnel.

        3. Having thus pre-framed the Palestinians with this phone call, the Israeli bombers then head for the George Washington Bridge instead, where they will drop off their time-bomb van and escape with Urban Moving accomplices.

        4. But the police react very wisely and proactively by closing off ALLbridges and tunnels instead of just the Holland Tunnel. This move inadvertently foils the Israelis’ misdirection play and leads to their own capture and 40 day torture.

        5. To cover up this story, the U.S. Justice Department rounds up over 1000 Arabs for minor immigration violations and places them in New York area jails. The Israelis therefore become less conspicuous as the government and media can now claim that the Israelis were just immigration violators caught in the same dragnet as many other Arabs.

        6. After several months, FBI and Justice Department “higher-ups” are able to gradually push aside the local FBI agents and free the Israelis quietly.

        Osama bin Laden was immediately blamed for the 9/11 attacks even though he had no previous record of doing anything on this scale. Immediately after the Flight 11 hit World Trade Center 1
        CIA Director George Tenet said “You know, this has bin Laden’s fingerprints all over it.” (27)

        The compliant mainstream media completely ignored the Israeli connection. Immediately following the 9-11 attacks the media was filled with stories linking the attacks to bin Laden. TV talking-heads, “experts”, and scribblers of every stripe spoon-fed a gullible American public a steady diet of the most outrageous propaganda imaginable.

        We were told that the reason bin Laden attacked the USA was because he hates our “freedom” and “democracy”. The Muslims were “medieval” and they wanted to destroy us because they envied our wealth, were still bitter about the Crusades, and were offended by Britney Spears shaking her tits and ass all over the place!

        But bin Laden strongly denied any role in the attacks and suggested that Zionists orchestrated the
        9-11 attacks. The BBC published bin Laden’s statement of denial in which he said:

        “I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks. … The American system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States.” (28)

        You never heard that quote on your nightly newscast did you?

        [A] number of intelligence officials have raised questions about Osama bin Laden’s capabilities. “This guy sits in a cave in Afghanistan and he’s running this operation?” one C.I.A. official asked. “It’s so huge. He couldn’t have done it alone.” A senior military officer told me that because of the visas and other documentation needed to infiltrate team members into the United States a major foreign intelligence service might also have been involved. (29)

        Bin Laden is not named as the perpetrator of 9/11 by the FBI:

        When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden’s Most Wanted web page (30), [Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI] said, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.” (31)

        “So we’ve never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden [sic] was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming” – Dick Cheney. (32)

        To date, the only shred of “evidence” to be uncovered against bin Laden is a barely audible fuzzy amateur video that the Pentagon just happened to find “lying around” in Afghanistan. How very convenient, and how very fake. (33)

        There is no evidence, be it hard or circumstantial, to link the Al Qaeda “terrorist network” to these acts of terror, but there is a mountain of evidence, both hard and circumstantial, which suggests that Zionists have been very busy framing Arabs for terror plots against America.

        “I think there is very compelling evidence that at least some of the terrorists were assisted not just in financing — although that was part of it — by a sovereign foreign government … It will become public at some point when it’s turned over to the archives, but that’s 20 or 30 years from now” – Senator Bob Graham. (34)

        If the sovereign foreign government mentioned by Senator Graham was an enemy of the United States the “compelling evidence” would not be kept secret for 20+ years.

        One final point; at 09:40 on 9-11 it was reported that the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility for the attacks (35). This claim was immediately denied by the DFLP leader Qais abu Leila who said it had always opposed “terror attacks on civilian targets, especially outside the occupied territories.” (36)

        Why would a Palestinian organisation comprising of less than 500 people (37) make the suicidal move of immediately claiming responsibility for the attacks?

        Sharon and the other Israeli leaders aspire to fulfil what the goals of the political Zionist movement have been since its origin a century ago: to turn all of historic Palestine into an exclusively Jewish state. A central tenet of the Zionist ideology is expressed in the racist slogan, “A land without people for a people without a land.” (38)

        The implication of Palestinians in the 9/11 attacks would have handed Zionists a golden opportunity to achieve the above because all Palestinians would be labelled terrorists.

        • ForChristAlone

          Certifiably insane.

    • languedoc

      Did you forget to take your meds? I worked at the World Trace Center. I was there on Sept 11. Friends were killed. Later in the day I saw Muslim students at NYU laughing and practically dancing for joy. The Muslims did it.

      • Sarah

        The New York Times reported Thursday that a group of five men had set up video cameras aimed at the Twin Towers prior to the attack on Tuesday, and were seen congratulating one another afterwards. (1)

        Police received several calls from angry New Jersey residents claiming “middle-eastern” men with a white van were videotaping the disaster with shouts of joy and mockery. (2)

        “They were like happy, you know … They didn’t look shocked to me” said a witness. (3)

        [T]hey were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage. (4)

        Witnesses saw them jumping for joy in Liberty State Park after the initial impact (5). Later on, other witnesses saw them celebrating on a roof in Weehawken, and still more witnesses later saw them celebrating with high fives in a Jersey City parking lot. (6)”It looked like they’re hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park.” (7)

        One anonymous phone call to the authorities actually led them to close down all of New York’s bridges and tunnels. The mystery caller told the 9-1-1 dispatcher that a group of Palestinians were mixing a bomb inside of a white van headed for the Holland Tunnel. Here’s the transcript from NBC News:

        Dispatcher: Jersey City police.
        Caller: Yes, we have a white van, 2 or 3 guys in there, they look like Palestinians and going around a building.
        Caller: There’s a minivan heading toward the Holland tunnel, I see the guy by Newark Airport mixing some junk and he has those sheikh uniform.
        Dispatcher: He has what?
        Caller: He’s dressed like an Arab. (8)

        (*Writer’s note: Why would this mystery caller specifically say that these “Arabs” were Palestinians? How would he know that? Palestinians usually dress in western style clothes, not “sheikh uniforms”)

        Based on that phone call, police then issued a “Be-on-the-Lookout” alert for a white mini-van heading for the city’s bridges and tunnels from New Jersey.

        White, 2000 Chevrolet van with ‘Urban Moving Systems’ sign on back seen at Liberty State Park, Jersey City, NJ, at the time of first impact of jetliner into World Trade Center Three individuals with van were seen celebrating after initial impact and subsequent explosion. FBI Newark Field Office requests that, if the van is located, hold for prints and detain individuals. (9)When a van fitting that exact description was stopped just before crossing into New York, the suspicious “middle-easterners” were apprehended. Imagine the surprise of the police officers when these terror suspects turned out to be Israelis!

        According to ABC’s 20/20, when the van belonging to the cheering Israelis was stopped by the police, the driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers:

        “We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem.” (10)

        Why did he feel Palestinians were a problem for the NYPD?

        The police and FBI field agents became very suspicious when they found maps of the city with certain places highlighted, box cutters (the same items that the hijackers supposedly used), $4700 cash stuffed in a sock, and foreign passports. Police also told the Bergen Record that bomb sniffing dogs were brought to the van and that they reacted as if they had smelled explosives. (11)

        The FBI seized and developed their photos, one of which shows Sivan Kurzberg flicking a cigarette lighter in front of the smouldering ruins in an apparently celebratory gesture. (12)

        Click for full size

        The Jerusalem Post later reported that a white van with a bomb was stopped as it approached the George Washington Bridge, but the ethnicity of the suspects was not revealed. Here’s what the Jerusalem Post reported on September 12, 2001:

        American security services overnight stopped a car bomb on the George Washington Bridge. The van, packed with explosives, was stopped on an approach ramp to the bridge. Authorities suspect the terrorists intended to blow up the main crossing between New Jersey and New York, Army Radio reported. (13)

        “…two suspects are in FBI custody after a truckload of explosives was discovered around the George Washington Bridge … The FBI … says enough explosives were in the truck to do great damage to the George Washington Bridge.”

        WMV video download (545kB)

        It was reported the van contained tonnes of explosives (14).

        What’s really intriguing is that ABC’s 20/20 (15), the New York Post (16), and the New Jersey Bergen Record (17) all clearly and unambiguouslyreported that a white van with Israelis was intercepted on a ramp near Route 3, which leads directly to the Lincoln Tunnel.

        But the Jerusalem Post, Israeli National News (Arutz Sheva) (18), and Yediot America, (19) all reported, just as clearly and unambiguously, that a white van with Israelis was stopped on a ramp leading to the George Washington Bridge, which is several miles north of the Lincoln Tunnel.

        It appears as if there may actually have been two white vans involved, one stopped on each crossing. This would not only explain the conflicting reports as to the actual location of the arrests, but would also explain how so many credible eye-witnesses all saw celebrating “middle-easterners” in a white van in so many different locations. It also explains why the New York Post and Steve Gordon (lawyer for the 5 Israelis) originally described how three Israelis were arrested but later increased the total to five.

        Perhaps one van was meant to drop off a bomb while the other was meant to pick up the first set of drivers while re-crossing back into New Jersey? If a van was to be used as a parked time-bomb on the GW Bridge, then certainly the drivers would need to have a “get-away van” to pick them up and escape. And notice how the van (or vans) stayed away from the third major crossing -the Holland Tunnel- which was where the police had originally been directed to by that anti-Palestinian 9-1-1 “mystery caller”. A classic misdirection play.

        From there, the story gets becomes even more suspicious. The Israelis worked for a Weehawken moving company known as Urban Moving Systems. An American employee of Urban Moving Systems told the The Record of New Jersey that a majority of his co-workers were Israelis and they were joking about the attacks.

        The employee, who declined to give his name said: “I was in tears. These guys were joking and that bothered me.” These guys were like, “Now America knows what we go through.” (20)

        A few days after the attacks, Urban Moving System’s Israeli owner, Dominick Suter, dropped his business and fled the country for Israel. He was in such a hurry to flee America that some of Urban Moving System’s customers were left with their furniture stranded in storage facilities (21).

        Suter’s departure was abrupt, leaving behind coffee cups, sandwiches, cell phones and computers strewn on office tables and thousands of dollars of goods in storage. Suter was later placed on the same FBI suspect list as 9/11 lead hijacker Mohammed Atta and other hijackers and suspected al-Qaeda sympathizers, suggesting that U.S. authorities felt Suter may have known something about the attacks. (22)

        The Jewish weekly The Forward reported that the FBI finally concluded that at least two of the detained Israelis were agents working for the Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency, and that Urban Moving Systems, the ostensible employer of the five Israelis, was a front operation. This was confirmed by two former CIA officers, and they noted that movers’ vans are a common intelligence cover. (23). The Israelis were held in custody for 71 days before being quietly released. (24)

        “There was no question but that [the order to close down the investigation] came from the White House. It was immediately assumed at CIA headquarters that this basically was going to be a cover-up so that the Israelis would not be implicated in any way in 9/11.” (25)

        Several of the detainees discussed their experience in America on an Israeli talk show after their return home. Said one of the men, denying that they were laughing or happy on the morning of Sept. 11, “The fact of the matter is we are coming from a country that experiences terror daily. Our purpose was to document the event.” (26)
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        How did they know there would be an event to document on 9/11?

        It doesn’t take Sherlock Holmes to connect the dots of the dancing Israeli Mossad agents – here’s the most logical scenario:

        1. The Israeli “movers” cheered the 9-11 attacks to celebrate the successful accomplishment of the greatest spy operation ever pulled off in history.

        2. One of them, or an accomplice, then calls a 9-1-1 police dispatcher to report Palestinian bomb-makers in a white van headed for the Holland Tunnel.

        3. Having thus pre-framed the Palestinians with this phone call, the Israeli bombers then head for the George Washington Bridge instead, where they will drop off their time-bomb van and escape with Urban Moving accomplices.

        4. But the police react very wisely and proactively by closing off ALLbridges and tunnels instead of just the Holland Tunnel. This move inadvertently foils the Israelis’ misdirection play and leads to their own capture and 40 day torture.

        5. To cover up this story, the U.S. Justice Department rounds up over 1000 Arabs for minor immigration violations and places them in New York area jails. The Israelis therefore become less conspicuous as the government and media can now claim that the Israelis were just immigration violators caught in the same dragnet as many other Arabs.

        6. After several months, FBI and Justice Department “higher-ups” are able to gradually push aside the local FBI agents and free the Israelis quietly.

        Osama bin Laden was immediately blamed for the 9/11 attacks even though he had no previous record of doing anything on this scale. Immediately after the Flight 11 hit World Trade Center 1
        CIA Director George Tenet said “You know, this has bin Laden’s fingerprints all over it.” (27)

        The compliant mainstream media completely ignored the Israeli connection. Immediately following the 9-11 attacks the media was filled with stories linking the attacks to bin Laden. TV talking-heads, “experts”, and scribblers of every stripe spoon-fed a gullible American public a steady diet of the most outrageous propaganda imaginable.

        We were told that the reason bin Laden attacked the USA was because he hates our “freedom” and “democracy”. The Muslims were “medieval” and they wanted to destroy us because they envied our wealth, were still bitter about the Crusades, and were offended by Britney Spears shaking her tits and ass all over the place!

        But bin Laden strongly denied any role in the attacks and suggested that Zionists orchestrated the
        9-11 attacks. The BBC published bin Laden’s statement of denial in which he said:

        “I was not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States nor did I have knowledge of the attacks. There exists a government within a government within the United States. The United States should try to trace the perpetrators of these attacks within itself; to the people who want to make the present century a century of conflict between Islam and Christianity. That secret government must be asked as to who carried out the attacks. … The American system is totally in control of the Jews, whose first priority is Israel, not the United States.” (28)

        You never heard that quote on your nightly newscast did you?

        [A] number of intelligence officials have raised questions about Osama bin Laden’s capabilities. “This guy sits in a cave in Afghanistan and he’s running this operation?” one C.I.A. official asked. “It’s so huge. He couldn’t have done it alone.” A senior military officer told me that because of the visas and other documentation needed to infiltrate team members into the United States a major foreign intelligence service might also have been involved. (29)

        Bin Laden is not named as the perpetrator of 9/11 by the FBI:

        When asked why there is no mention of 9/11 on Bin Laden’s Most Wanted web page (30), [Rex Tomb, Chief of Investigative Publicity for the FBI] said, “The reason why 9/11 is not mentioned on Usama Bin Laden’s Most Wanted page is because the FBI has no hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11.” (31)

        “So we’ve never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden [sic] was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming” – Dick Cheney. (32)

        To date, the only shred of “evidence” to be uncovered against bin Laden is a barely audible fuzzy amateur video that the Pentagon just happened to find “lying around” in Afghanistan. How very convenient, and how very fake. (33)

        There is no evidence, be it hard or circumstantial, to link the Al Qaeda “terrorist network” to these acts of terror, but there is a mountain of evidence, both hard and circumstantial, which suggests that Zionists have been very busy framing Arabs for terror plots against America.

        “I think there is very compelling evidence that at least some of the terrorists were assisted not just in financing — although that was part of it — by a sovereign foreign government … It will become public at some point when it’s turned over to the archives, but that’s 20 or 30 years from now” – Senator Bob Graham. (34)

        If the sovereign foreign government mentioned by Senator Graham was an enemy of the United States the “compelling evidence” would not be kept secret for 20+ years.

        One final point; at 09:40 on 9-11 it was reported that the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility for the attacks (35). This claim was immediately denied by the DFLP leader Qais abu Leila who said it had always opposed “terror attacks on civilian targets, especially outside the occupied territories.” (36)

        Why would a Palestinian organisation comprising of less than 500 people (37) make the suicidal move of immediately claiming responsibility for the attacks?

        Sharon and the other Israeli leaders aspire to fulfil what the goals of the political Zionist movement have been since its origin a century ago: to turn all of historic Palestine into an exclusively Jewish state. A central tenet of the Zionist ideology is expressed in the racist slogan, “A land without people for a people without a land.” (38)

        The implication of Palestinians in the 9/11 attacks would have handed Zionists a golden opportunity to achieve the above because all Palestinians would have been labelled terrorists.

  • ForChristAlone

    Tuesday is the Feast of Our Lady of the Rosary (formerly Our Lady of Victory). I propose we yet again change the name to Our Lady of Lepanto. Pray for the defeat of Islam.

    Speaking of bishops and the USCCB, did anyone see that the USCCB has accepted a $4 million dollar grant from the Federal government to work with immigrant minors the USCCB office of Migration and Refugee Services? That means that the Catholic hierarchy is agreeing to participate in evil since they will be forced to accept the government’s mandates about hiring LGBT employees and “honoring” these minors’ so called LGBT…inclinations. Please recall that it wasn’t too long ago that the USCCB and Catholic Charities of the Diocese of Richmond were involved in signing for and escorting a 14 years old minor immigrant in their custody FOR AN ABORTION. Anyone can look up the details for this in the June 2008 issue of The Wanderer newspaper.

  • languedoc

    I see Cardinal Dolan will be a participant in the Synod. I hope he is not asked to contribute anything having to do with faith or morals.

    • bonaventure

      Now that he has come out in favor of homosexual organizations openly marching at NYC’s St. Pat’s Parade, he will be courted by the liberal bishops and cardinals, such as Kasper. And considering that he is full of himself (and of hot air), he may easily succumb to the flattery.

  • Caroline

    Probably a stupid question–but where are these virgins to come from? And once they have been enjoyed and are no longer virgins, how is the virgin pool to be resupplied?

    I’m not so sure how much of a drawing card are heavenly rape or even poverty or discrimination for these young men. My money is on the vast, ceaseless boredom of their lives.

  • Sarah

    The demonization of the Muslims is to essentially present Muslims as enemies of the States, and as enemies of the world. It’s also to convey the notion that Muslims are terrorists, and that notion has been firmly ingrained into the Western thought while in fact terrorism is a creation of US intelligence. As I mentioned, Al-Qaeda which has its roots in Salafist and Wahhabi thought, in essence is a creation of intelligence operations and doesn’t emanate from Muslim world. The War on Terrorism provides the basis for demonizing the Muslim population and we’ve gone through a period of transition in that regard because initially, the demonization applies to heads of state and government of the Muslim countries, and now it has become much more generalized where Western governments are in effect targeting Muslims in their respective countries with a view to demonizing them and portraying them as terrorists and so on, and all this is all a war propaganda.

    This propaganda is there to divide people in these countries and create divisions within the United States. But secondly, it’s to portray the notion that Muslims somehow are people who are committed to non-Western values, committed to dictatorship, don’t accept democracy, are linked to extremists including terrorists; that is not directed against the heads of state of Muslim countries; it’s directed against Muslims in general; that in turn serves as an ideological underpinning to which these wars against terrorists in different parts of the world are underway. And I just like to clarify in that regard, that wherever the United States has intervened, in the context of War Terrorism, whether in Somalia, Nigeria, Iraq, Afghanistan or Syria, they have intervened under the mandate of the War on Terrorism where in fact all those Al-Qaeda affiliated entities are the creations of the US intelligence, without exception. They create Al-Qaeda entities and then they proclaim that they have to intervene when these Al-Qaeda affiliated entities commit atrocities against the civilian population.

    So, in effect, they’re on both sides. They support the rebels, and fight the rebels, as well. They support Al-Qaeda covertly with a view to destabilize the sovereign countries, and then they intervene under the pretext that they have a mandate to fight the terrorists. All of this is now leading to the re-colonization of African continent, establishment of proxy regimes and destruction of entire countries.

    • ForChristAlone

      I can see that no one in your family worked in either of the twin towers in 2001.

      • Sarah

        911 was blamed on Muslims, though Israeli Mossad, dual-citizens (like Michael Chertoff and Dov Zakheim) were the culprits. Look up the five dancing Israelis.

    • johnalbertson

      I am not sure where we draw the line between innocent naiveté and willful ignorance. But in the 1920’s and 1930’s it didn’t matter: both smoothed the way respectively for Stalinism and Hitlerism. Giving her the benefit of the doubt, I’d nominate “Sarah” for a Nobel Prize in Naiveté.

    • DE-173

      Did you ever notice that trolls like not to use DISQUS ID’s?

  • Sarah

    What’s the difference between this rabid rabbi’s incitement to genocide and Kilpatrick’s? Why does Crisis publish this filth?

    The good Rabbi gives us all a front row seat into the Jewish “heart of darkness trip” he is on. He puts collective guilt on steroids on full display below. Even the nice Muslims he says, they are guilty for what the bad ones do.

    These Jihaddi Jews are really into the collective guilt thing, a kind of empowerment trip they are continually on. We are all Palestinians to them, and no…not nice neighbors to have.

    Thank you Rabbi. I will add you and your congregation to the reparations list for Palestine, and even 9-11. But unlike you I will not go after all Jews.

    Why bother with an innocent when there are plenty of guilty ones around to discuss extermination with, a lifetimes work in itself? Is that why Abe Foxman and AIPAC, or Rupert Murdoch even, never call us at VT?

    And one last thing Rabbi…have you ever heard of the term “negative Jewish stereotype? Have you ever wondered where the term came from? It was created by and for, people like you. Might I suggest a name change for you sir, to… “Rabbi Loon”

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    The Israeli Navy gunboat people wanted to be able to say they bagged a few.

    A notable American Rabbi says all Muslims are criminals, and calls for a global genocide against them. In a recent sermon, Rabbi Shalom Lewis of Congregation Etz Chaim in the Atlanta suburb of Marietta, Georgia, said Muslims were guilty and should be “exterminated.”

    The Rabbi fashioned his speech as a sequel to astonishingly racist remarks he made three years ago in which he compared Muslims to Nazis. “They are coming,” he warned at the time.

    “Three years later on this bima, on this very same day, standing at this podium, I cry out not ‘Ehr Kumpt – they are coming,’ I cry out, ‘Ehr daw – they are here’,” Lewis said. “The fury of ultimate evil is upon us and we must act – not to contain it. Not to degrade it. Not to manage it. Not to tolerate it, but to exterminate it utterly and absolutely,” he added.

    The Rabbi said that while not all Muslims were “committed Islamists” and “terrorists,” but all were guilty.

    He accused 50 million Muslims around the world of being “murderers” who “embrace terror” and are “planning to slit our throats, blow us up or forcibly convert us” to Islam.

    “But what disturbs me is, where are the other 950 million Muslims who are not terrorists? Who are not bomb-blasting, acid-throwing zealots?” the Rabbi asked.

    “A silent partnership is no partnership. Sin is not just in the act of commission – it is also in the act of omission. Most Germans were not Nazis – but it did not matter. Most Russians were not Stalinists – but it did not matter. Most Muslims are not terrorists – but it does not matter,” he added.

  • anonposter

    Poverty and discrimination are the more likely reasons. When it comes to religion, people often just believe what they want to believe. Someone who has a good life isn’t going to become a terrorist based on some nutty promise about post life virgins.

  • M.J.A .

    Interesting .. .and may be God allows this, to help us to know what we been spared , in the form of lies , how grateful we need to be , for having been called by The Father , to know Him through The Son !
    ‘ These are men who have not defiled themselves with women and they go wherever The Lamb goes ..’ Book of Rev,about priests , what is promised for them …The Lamb that is the light of The New Jerusalem ..in the heart of all , loved and adored ..the millions /billions of angels and His children – men and women ..families all the way from Adam and Eve and the Wedding Feast of pure, nonfading non carnal love , that was even meant for Adam and Eve , if not for The Fall …a love that multiplies as it is given ..in the Infinite Bosom of the Father and all of it for the giving, of being His children , by being of His holy nature , with power to forgive , even the worst enemy . to share in the .victory over death and the devil – the tools of lust and lies have been by that enemy , to make worms of those under him from The Garden on down ..
    ‘The enemy comes to steal , kill and destroy ‘ our Lord had warned …destruction of the destiny for divine nature , which is to have infinite capacity for the pure , holy , infinite love to be shared with the multitudes , that we glimpse in Miriam , whom Islam too knows a bit about … the pure , holy Virgin , whose Immaculate Heart contains such love for and from all Her children ..and the Most Holy Trinity ..which is what She wants for Her children too ..
    Being Her child , by getting Her Motherly help ..that The Holy Spirit of God can help to bring forth the image of The Son , in repentance of all evil , in the merits of The Passion , in gratitude to The Father and The Son , whose love for those in Him, united to Him by the truth of The Incarnation is shown in what He says – ‘ what you did to the least , you did to Me .’ – terrifying words to hear for shedding innocent blood !

    He would not allow to demean 72 virgins , by giving them the worth of only 1/72 of that of a man either !
    Immaculate Heart of Mary, pray for us !

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