The Queer Rebellion against Reality

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After decades of strategically choosing to ignore the transgendered community, the GLB (Gay Lesbian and Bisexual) activists have added the T and in some case a Q to their coalition.

T stands for transgendered, defined as anyone who wants to appear in public and be accepted as the sex they were not born, whether or not they have been surgically altered. The GLBTQ activists separate sex (the biological reality) from gender (a person’s feeling about their identity). According to this scheme, a person could have a male sex, but a female gender. Transsexuals are those who have been surgically altered to resemble the other sex.

Q stands for Queer and refers to those who reject the binary division of human beings into male and female and want the freedom to be either, both or neither sex as it suits them. GLBTQ or LGBTQ activists are now demanding that, in addition to protecting “sexual orientation,” anti-discrimination legislation also include a protection for “gender identity and gender expression.”

The legal consequences of such a change are significant, but there are broader implications. Sex difference is part of the goodness of creation.

In the beginning…God created man in his own image…male and female he created them… and God saw all that he had made and it was very good.”

No one can change their sex. It is written on the DNA. Each man should praise and thank God for his manhood, each woman for her womanhood. Persons who self-identify as Transgendered or Queer are not thankful. They believe that God made a mistake. Of course, they may not say that outright, instead the transgendered talk about how people were ‘assigned’ a sex at birth as though this was an arbitrary and oppressive act by the doctor rather than a simple observation of reality. They complain that they were not given a choice in matter. Some insist that they are really women trapped in men’s bodies, or men trapped in women’s bodies. The Queer view a world divided into male and female as an abridgement of their freedom to choose — or not choose – which ‘gender’ they want to be.

Rather than praising God for the gift of their sexual identity – for He surely knew what he was doing when he willed each one of us into being – they give in to envy. They covet the attributes and privileges of the other sex. They rebel against reality.

It should be noted that their habits of envy, coveting, ingratitude, and rebellion can begin very early, before the child can truly be considered morally responsible. These habits can be triggered by trauma, exacerbated by anxiety, abetted by adults who give into unreasonable demands.

However, if uncorrected and unrepented, these habits grow into patterns of thinking that are extremely difficult to break out of. We cannot judge the subjective guilt of such persons, that task belongs to God alone, but we can and should name the specific sins – envy, coveting, ingratitude, rebellion, self-centeredness. These lead to self-gratification and lust. From there to self-justification and attacks on any one who refuses to play along with their fantasy.  St. Paul’s letter to the Roman lists the sinful consequences: lust, strife, deceit, malice, insolence, arrogance, boasting. Psychologists identify a syndrome containing these features as Narcissistic personality disorder.

Gender Identity Disorder
Gender Identity Disorder (GID) is the failure to embrace one’s sexual identity as a good and instead to identify with the other sex. This can occur early in childhood. This is not simply atypical interests. A GID child becomes pathologically anxious when asked to conform to behavior or clothing typical for his or her sex. The child with GID soon learns that his imitation of the other sex is not accepted by others – particularly his peers.

GLBTQ activists insist that it is not the child who has the problem, but society. They want to force everyone to go along with the child’s fantasy and atypical behaviors. They say: Why not let the little boy come to school dressed as a girl and use the girls’ bathroom if it makes him happy? After all we should affirm diversity and since he is going to want to change sex later in life, why not give him a head start with hormone blocking therapy, so that he doesn’t develop male characteristics at puberty?

It is certainly true that being affirmed and accepted as the other sex will reduce the GID child’s anxiety, but at what cost? The child will be trapped in a lie, living in fantasy, and sooner or later he will confront the reality that he cannot really change his sex, that all the dressing up, make-up, and surgery cannot make him a woman. Not only that but he will demand that others go along with his fantasy.

Autogynephiles
Not all transgender men start out with childhood GID. Some appear to be ordinary masculine boys. They choose typical masculine careers, may marry and have children. However, they have a secret life. In adolescence they began to masturbate often using women’s clothing for arousal and imagining themselves as a woman. This can progress into full-blown transvestitism, in which the man is aroused or comforted by dressing as a woman. A small percentage of transvestite males decide – perhaps during a period of stress – that dressing up is not enough, that they want to make the transformation complete through surgery. Some label such men autogynephiles, men who are in love with the image of themselves as a woman.

Anne Lawrence, a man who has been surgically altered, explains that the surgery may not give them what they hope for:

“…transsexuals may also find it harder to fully identify with women after transition than before, because the difference they inevitably observe between themselves and natal women become harder to rationalize after transition.[1] 

Lawrence points out that, when they are not accepted as the sex they want to be, some transsexuals are vulnerable to narcissistic rage, defined as the “disproportionate, compulsive pursuit of revenge that seeks to obliterate both the offense and the offender.”[2] Legislators and judges who want to extend legal protection to persons who want to present themselves as the other sex need to understand that adding “gender identity” to antidiscrimination legislation will give such transsexuals the right to pursue legal sanctions against those who will not go along with the lie that they have changed their sex.

Given that “transsexuals” suffer from a “fundamental disorder” in their sense of self and are prone to narcissistic rage,[3] there is every reason to believe that they will use such legislation to attack anyone who speaks the truth.

Those who cannot bear false witness, who cannot call a man a woman – even if the man has been surgically altered to have female-appearing body parts, even if he is able to fool most of the people most of the time, – can expect to find themselves subject to sanctions.

The transsexual is willing to sacrifice much to achieve what he covets; he mutilates his body, subjects himself to a lifetime of hormone therapy, gives up his fertility, cuts himself off from family, friends, and career.  He rewrites his personal history, all in order to live a lie. And the more the transsexual sacrifices the greater his need to defend his lie, to insist that he really is a woman and that others must accept him as such. He delights in passing – in conning people into believing he really is the other sex. It is interesting to note that some transgendered males after all that effort find living a lie too difficult and retreat into the society of persons like themselves.

We may think that since the transsexual is only hurting himself, if it makes him happy what is wrong with going along with his fantasy?

Everything.

It does the transgendered no good and it makes us accomplices in a suicide of self. By going along with the fantasy of sex change we allow the transgender to believe that they really can change their sex.

Women reading the transsexual men’s description of womanhood often notice that these men do not have the slightest idea of what it means to be a woman. They talk of dressing up or wearing silky underclothes, of shopping or gossiping, of being taken care of by men. But what makes a woman is her concern for the other. Even if she doesn’t have children, a woman has a mother’s heart.

Transgendered Women
Most women who self-identify as transgender begin with some form of childhood GID. Because being a tomboy is more acceptable than being a sissy, their behavior may not be seen as extreme. A GID girl can be distinguished from a tomboy by the level of anxiety she exhibits when asked to conform to female dress or behavior. As they mature, some GID women become butch lesbians or dykes, and enter into a relationship with another woman. Then at some point they decide that they want to intensify their identification as male. This can involve hormone injections and breast removal. A few will opt for surgery to construct male genitals, but the procedure is difficult and the results non-functional.

Other women choose to self-identify as queer, to move between masculine and feminine or when asked their gender respond ‘none of the above.’ While some transgender women appear to be motivated by envy of males, others express a real disgust with the biological evidence of womanhood – breasts and menstruation. These are seen as a sign of weakness or vulnerability. The choice to adopt a male persona is not always met with acceptance in the lesbian community – some strongly woman-identified lesbians see it as selling out to the enemy.

Gender Identity and Expression
Those who demand that phrase “gender identity and expression” be added to anti-discrimination laws avoid discussion of the consequences of such a change. Instead they talk about the violence and discrimination transgendered persons experience.

Interpersonal violence is already against the law and such laws can and should be enforced; however, much of the violence transgendered persons experience is related to their own choices. The high levels of psychological disorders and substance abuse among the transgendered can lead to domestic violence and high risk activities. Transgendered men are more likely to engage in prostitution and use illegal drugs. The transgender man’s decision to deceive can have negative consequences. If he seduces an inebriated man into a sexual encounter with what the man assumes is a willing, attractive woman. The man may react violently when he discovers that he is in bed with a man.

The transgendered are troubled people who need help, not a society that panders to their delusion. The Queer are rebels who simply want to destroy.

Society has no obligation to agree to their demands.


[1] Anne Lawrence (2008) “Shame and Narcissistic Rage in Autogynephilic Transsexualism,”  Archives of Sexual Behavior,  37: 457-461

[2] H. Kohut (1971) The Analysis of Self: A Systematic Approach to the Psychoanalytic treatment of Narcissistic Personality Disorders, (New York: International Universities Press); H. Kohut (1972) “Thoughts on Narcissism and Narcissistic Rage,” Psychoanalytic Study of the Child, 27:360-400.

[3] Lawrence, Ibid. A, Beitel (1985) “The Spectrum of Gender Identity Disturbances: An Intrapsyhic Model,” in B. W. Steiner, (ed) Gender Dysphoria: Development, Research, Management (New York: Pleum), 189-206; U. Hartman et al (1997) “Self and Gender: Narcissistic Pathology and Personality Factors in Gender Dysphoric Patients: Preliminary Results of a Prospective Study,”  International Journal of Transgenderism,

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  • Michael Paterson-Seymour

    Even biological sex may be ambiguous.

    We should not overlook those cases where there is a discrepancy between the internal and external genetalia and, even, cases of true gonadal intersex, where the patient has both ovarian and testicular tissue, or one ovary and one testicle and may have both XX and XY chromosomes.  Here the external genitals may be ambiguous

    There are also cases where, instead of the usual 46 chromosomes, the patient may have 45 X0 (only one X chromosome) or 47 XXY or XXX, leading to abnormal sexual development.

    Biology shows us, not a neat binary, but the irony of nature, with its discontinuity, disparity, contradiction, discord, indeterminacy and chaos

    • Matthew Arnold

      No, biology shows us disease, disfunction, syndromes…From some such malady these sad people suffer.  Normal and abnormal are not ideas to be dismissed so idly.  

      • Michael Paterson-Seymour

        Normal and abnormal in this field are elusive and illusory, as acquaintance with teratology shows.  The Ancients spoke of ἀπορία [aporia] a word meaning impasse, lack of resources, puzzlement, doubt, confusion.  That is the condition of true philosophy

        • Matthew Arnold

          Well, logically, something is elusive or illusory, but never both.  

          I read Greek, thanks.  If you think that aporia “is the condition of true philosophy,” you have left out Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Cicero, and Seneca, for starters, who searched for and discovered myriad truths.  

          As for normal and abnormal, they are wonderfully useful categories in any number of disciplines, including biology.

          • Michael Paterson-Seymour

            Well, Arcesilaus and Carneades certainly thought they were faithful to Plato and they flourished whilst his teaching was still a living tradition in the Academy, so I would certainly claim Socrates and Plato for my side of the argument

            • Matthew Arnold

              What side of what argument?  Sorry I cannot quite make out what you are trying to say, where your claims have been self-contradictory or ahistorical.

              The positive and constructive nature of ancient philosophy–please read Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Cicero, and Seneca–is essential to all philosophy.  

              Homosexuals are abnormal, inter alia, qua their (s0-called) sexuality, which is contra naturam, a micro-minority physiological response.  What the political brigades will have us believe is that that is normal, and obtains in (a lie fabricated decades ago) ten percent of the population.  Firmly in their grip, private secular schools, pre-K through 12, now advertise that they do not discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation.  This is bad science and worse politics infecting and sickening our children.  It is indeed a “queer rebellion against reality.”  

        • Carl

          Wow,  normal and abnormal are elusive and illusory?

          Before the Fall God made man and woman—imperfect?
          Did God create an imperfect Eden?
          Will the beatific vision of our new paradise be imperfect too?

          God is neither normal or abnormal?

          Cast from Paradise for original sin this world is cursed.  Since then will have to toil, suffer, and redeem ourselves and this world.

          God’s will is normal.  Anything else is abnormal.

        • Scott W

          Socrates left his interlocutor’s in a state of aporia because they had previously held firm beliefs that were poorly examined/thought out.  That’s the importance of the term–please don’t misuse it for your own agenda.

    • EMBuckles

      I read the writings of a young lady in Australia, a medical researcher as it happens, who is one of those sorts of people. She said that, earlier in life, she had been determined to be male, for whatever reasons, however, as she continued to grow, she developed distinctly female characteristics to the point that she realized that she could not continue on as a male when she was actually a female according to her development. She said that she found that people like her need to wait as long as possible before adopting a gender of male or female. She said that, after a while, such people as herself will develop either a predominantly male or perdominantly female sexual orientation.  She also said that a dietary deficiency may play a part in the development of that condition.  Scientists, while while they may at times manage to show us truth about God’s creation, need to STOP trying to “be God” – that job is already being done by God, Himself.  And it seems to me that God DID create a perfect world yet God also gave us free will and sin has, at times perverted what would have been the perfect progression of God’s perfect world. Thanks be to our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, for victory over sin and death.  As for those who wish to be the opposite gender, they need to accept their birth gender and stop trying to change it. All sorts of surgery and cosmetics may help someone look like the opposite gender, but they are NOT and never will be.  Our nation needs to stop perpetuating the lie that one can change one’s gender and our nation also needs to stop allowing marriage other than one man-one woman marriage. Efforts need to be made to find out the actual causes, cures and preventions for homosexuality.  There is a LOT more I could say about all this, however, I will leave it at what I have said for the moment.

    • whawell

      What you described must be anomalies like people born with an extra limb, for instance. They had abnormal developments while in the uterus or shortly after conception. They constitute much less than 1 percent of the population.

    • Guest

      The available data support the conclusion that human sexuality is a dichotomy,
      not a continuum. More than 99.98% of humans are either male or female. If the
      term intersex is to retain any clinical meaning, the use of this term should be
      restricted to those conditions in which chromosomal sex is inconsistent with
      phenotypic sex, or in which the phenotype is not classifiable as either male or
      female.

      The birth of an intersex child, far from being “a fairly common
      phenomenon,” is actually a rare event, occurring in fewer than 2 out of every
      10,000 births

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  • http://profile.yahoo.com/DSQYRUWPJEVUUZ5EFIGNCHJDNI Richard M.

    I cannot imagine a Church that has anything but compassion and love for people born this way!  I believe the Church is committing a serious error by presuming that Gay people are NOT BORN GAY!
    To put the blame on them is the” easy way out” for the Church!  It is much easier to say they are soley at fault!  The Pope, when he was just Cardinal Ratzinger, made the statement that “all Gays are mentally ill!  His lack of compassion for Gay people has shown up in his constant downgrading of them!  He is in effect, teaching the Faithful to hate and fear Gays!  I believe that this is a grave injustice to them, and a sin on his part!  Born Gay, their Nature is to BE GAY!  Our Lord would never approve of the Pope’s actions!  He is a man without love, understanding, or compassion for all those born Diffrent!

    • http://www.joe-catholic.blogspot.com/ Don A. Gonzalez

      I suggest you read Deus Caritas Est. Pope Benedict XVI IS a man with true love, understands it and applies it. http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/encyclicals/documents/hf_ben-xvi_enc_20051225_deus-caritas-est_en.html

    • Joe

      It’s a stretch to take Ratzinger’s description of gay people as mentally ill to an endorsement of “hate” or “fear,” yet it’s such a common epithet that is thrown at anyone who questions the received wisdom that homosexuality is an ingrained biological trait, a mutation. Profesional psychologists abandoned classifying homosexuality in the late 1970s, I believe, for reasons that may have had more to do with politics than real clinical evidence. Still, even granting that it should not be characterized as an “illness” leaves one to wonder what it really is? The fact that science is not conclusive on the nature/nurture question should at least make us humble in overstating things.

      But Ratzinger would hardly “hate” or “fear” a scizophrenic, which is a  mental illness, so why would you think he meant something different in this case. The failure of the church to speak plainly and compassionately about homosexuality has been a blot on its record. Christianity treats homosexual activity as sinful. But so are many other things.

    • Patric

      Lack of compassion on the Pope’s part? Let’s see what Benedict had to say before he was Pope. When he was Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, a letter to the bishops of the Church on the pastoral care of homosexual persons was published by the congregation. It says, “It is deplorable that homosexual persons have been and are the object of violent
      malice in speech or in action. Such treatment deserves condemnation from the
      Church’s pastors wherever it occurs. It reveals a kind of disregard for others
      which endangers the most fundamental principles of a healthy society. The
      intrinsic dignity of each person must always be respected in word, in action and
      in law.” The letter also reminds us that “The human person, made in the image and likeness of God, can
      hardly be adequately described by a reductionist reference to his or her sexual
      orientation. Every one living on the face of the earth has personal problems and
      difficulties, but challenges to growth, strengths, talents and gifts as well.
      Today, the Church provides a badly needed context for the care of the human
      person when she refuses to consider the person as a ‘heterosexual’ or a
      ‘homosexual’ and insists that every person has a fundamental Identity: the
      creature of God, and by grace, his child and heir to eternal life.” [Read the whole thing here: http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19861001_homosexual-persons_en.html 

      The Pope and the Church don’t claim to know why homosexual persons are the way they are. But it would definitely be an error to presume anything. Science needs to figure that out, and the reasons are more than likely complex (a combination of nature and nurture, biology and environment).

    • Dan

       Richard M:

      I almost feel rather helpless in the face of such delusions, but allow me, please, to simply say this:  no one is born homosexual, nor are they born murderers, adulterers, felons, wife-beaters, thieves, drunks or gluttons.   These are things that are chosen.

      Homosexuality has been rightly termed by the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church one of the mortal sins “that cries to Heaven for vengeance”.  Before you toss that statement down the memory hole, you might ponder it for awhile.

      For the record, sir: there is nothing gay about one man placing his generative organ into another man’s execratory organ.  You can commit such foulness if you wish, a foulness that not even dogs will engage in, but don’t be surprised when “mother nature” presents her bill for such actions, namely hepatitus-B or AIDS, or God knows what else.

      • Dan Li

        That is your response? Homosexuality, the orientation at the very least, is heavily influenced by genetic factors. Studies have shown extremely high correlations between genetics and sexual orientation. Such studies have also shown that the ex-gay movements have been generally unsuccessful, with few successes. I hope you were referring to the pseudosexual acts themselves as the mortal sin, and not the orientation; stating otherwise conflicts with the doctrine of the Church.

        I must also note that while I agree with you in terms of the sin incurred by pseudosexual acts, you ought to consider the fact that such foulness has in fact been observed in other species. Including dogs, goats, lions, etc. etc.

        Have a care when invoking the name of our Church! Hastily and ill written pieces like yours have brought undeserved scorn upon the hierarchy!

        • John200

           The studies that suggested a genetic influence on homo”sex”ual orientation have been repeatedly debunked. Informed opinion is that there is no homo”sex”ual gene and we aren’t going to find any such thing.

          Since you think these studies support your point and you do not cite them, I imagine you know this. But you don’t care enough to do the homework.

          ’tis a puzzlement.

          • Guy

             I’ve been straight my entire life.  Could I get up in the morning and spontaneously choose to be attracted to the same sex?  Could I change my orientation on a whim?  If I could why would I?  Why would anyone born into a society in which heterosexuality is identified with normalcy voluntarily choose to be gay?

            On the other hand if there was such a thing as a gay gene then how could it be passed down?  Obviously homosexuals can’t have children and so can’t pass down their genes.

            The point is it’s not simple story one way or the other.

            • http://www.facebook.com/agithens Anna Trotta Githens

              Yes this is a very complicated topic. You cannot presume something to be true or not true simply because you yourself wouldn’t “choose” to do it. Many people become/are gay because it feels emotionally more comfortable for them to be so, it feels very uncomfortable for them to be straight. It is also feels very uncomfortable for a drug addict to quit drugs and an alcoholic to give up drinking. 

              The desire to become intimate with someone is fueled by emotions and positive mental stimuli. A gay person is repulsed by the thought of becoming intimate with a member of the opposite sex. This is not a physical problem, it is a mental or emotional problem. If the body parts work, they work. Why would it matter who they are working with if they are responding? This is why homosexuals should seek serious counseling to determine the catalyst of their feelings. This is very hard to do, but it is equally hard for an alcoholic to go to AA, an overeater to stop binge eating, or anyone with any disorder to work on themselves in therapy.  

              But Jesus loves everyone, gay or straight, however he does not love actions that are offensive to Our Lord.

          • Dan Li

            There need not be a singular ‘gene;’ various genetic factors (we are focusing on epigenetics here, just so you know) may greatly increase or decrease the likelihood of acquiring homosexual orientation during puberty. Such an orientation could also arise from prenatal environmental factors in the womb (an odd trend regarding higher rates of homosexuality amongst younger siblings has been observed); other factors in childhood may (of course) have some influence on orientation. 

            I’d also ask you to consider that correlations between the sexuality siblings is higher in genetically identical twins compared to fraternal twins; this occurs in both when they were raised in both the same and in differing environments.Would you do me the favor of citing a few of these peer-reviewed studies ‘debunking’ genetic and prenatal influences on the sexual orientation of children yourself? I have run searches under Scifinder and other scholarly search engines (and looked up psychology and human behavior journals); I’ve even used google scholar, and most recent studies I’ve found claim genetic influence and prenatal environmental factors as the likely source of homosexuality.

            The point of my above post was to inform and warn against hasty judgement. I myself doubt anyone has much of a sexual orientation before puberty. I would also like to point out that His Holiness has written that the orientation in itself is not a sin; it is a disorder inasmuch as it is a greater predisposition to committing sinful acts.

        • Bob

          Soooooo………our moral decisions are to be compared to that of dogs?? Dogs also eat their own vomit and other animals excrement, don’t think humans are wired that way.

          • Dan Li

            Firstly, I would question whether dogs have the capacity to make moral decisions. 
            Secondly, I think you missed the point; I’m arguing that homosexuality (the orientation) may arise naturally, perhaps as a symptom of our fallen state. I would say that those engaging in pseudosexual behavior are in fact making a moral decision, but I would not extend the concept of ‘choice’ to the actual orientation.I would also like to note that while homosexual acts are sinful; the orientation or inclination itself is not (though it may certainly be called disordered). Indeed, Pope Benedict has written: “Although the particular inclination of the homosexual person is not a sin, it is a more or less strong tendency ordered to an intrinsic moral evil, and thus the inclination itself must be seen as an objective disorder.”

    • Bettyinri

      We believe alcoholics are “born this way” … Let ‘em drink themselves silly!

    • Bob

      The route that the annual LGBT (gay pride) parade takes in New York City goes right by one of Blessed Theresa of Calcutta’s Missionary of Charity’s homes/hospice for patients dieing of AIDS. As they pass by, the gay parade participants tthrow condoms at the front door of the hospice, shouting epitaths. In the home, the sister’s kneel in front of the Blessed Sacrament and pray for the souls of the gay parade marchers and forgiveness and love for them. The dichotomy is striking……the sisters on one side of the door taking care of the spiritual and bodily needs of dieing AIDS patients, mostly whom are homosexual, and gay parade marchers on the other side of the door tossing condoms and vitriol at the sisters. Sometimes the line between good and evil is quite clear. One side heaven, the other side choosing a life of hell. The sisters imitating Christ’s selfless love on one side of the door, gay parade marchers on the other side of the door living a life that would make Narcissis proud.

      • John200

         Homo”sex”uals embarrass themselves pretty much constantly. Those you describe are a standing disgrace. I have never known a homo”sex”ual who did not disgrace himself repeatedly (my sample is small, consisting of about 30-40 homo”sex”uals).

        Good for the sisters, the contrast is perfect. The observers cannot miss the point.

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  • poetcomic1

      Any savvy person who has lived in NYC (as I have) knows that the guys who have had the ‘operation’ or else are living as ‘she-males’  are so commonly working as prostitutes that it is almost a given.  The numbers on disease, mental illness, suicide, violence etc. etc. for these people are beyond belief.  They want your children (via the public schools) to be told from an early age all about the ‘wonderful’ possibilities of ‘being like them’ and how ‘brave’ they are.  Barf.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Laurie-Donovan/100003979246269 Laurie Donovan

    I used to be in the gay community, surrounded by lots of transgendered people. I saw a woman decide, she’s a man, go have her breasts cut off, do all the shots and what else, then she/he grew facial hair, got married to a woman. The people in the gay community see what they want to see…It took me a long time to correct my vision. I see folks who go through the process, and feel pity for them, because, one cannot change their spots….DNA will never change, you can take away body parts, take shots, add body parts…you’ll still be the person you were born as. I find it ridiculous the courts grant these people new identities as men or women. A woman will never be a man no matter what surgery she has, she just doesn’t have the organs to make her a man….no prostate, not a man, sorry!

    • Michael Paterson-Seymour

      I agree that in many cases such surgery is simply pandering to a delusion, rather than treating it.  However, as I outlined in my first post, true cases of inter-sex do occur, as do abnormalities in the chromosomes.  Here surgery may be used to bring the internal and external organs into alignment

    • whawell

      I’m curious to know your reason for leaving the gay community. I suspect the longer one has been engaged in homosexual relationships the more difficult it is to change one’s orientation or, to use your wording, correct one’s vision.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Laurie-Donovan/100003979246269 Laurie Donovan

        I left because it truly caused me heart ache…im sure there is the same in the heterosexual community as well…but, there is a lot of dysfunction in the gay community, people who are gay, tend to be alcoholics, drug addicts, and find other ways to deal with their lifestyle. Not everyone falls into that category, mind you, but, the people I have come into contact with, some cannot deal with being gay, so they deal with the pain of being in this lifestyle by numbing themselves to the pain they are feeling.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Laurie-Donovan/100003979246269 Laurie Donovan

          you know what? sometimes I say what’s on my mind, and it gets me into trouble….when one speaks, one should always be uplifting….I apologize if I offended anyone…truly….people are to be loved…

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